The "do they mean us?" thread pt 4

[FoxesTez]

11 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Chelsea's fixtures in this season's conference league;

 

Servette (H)

Servette (A)

Gent (H)

Panathanaikos (A)

Noah (H)

Heidenheim (A)

Astana (A)

Shamrock Rovers (H)

Copenhagen (A)

Copenhagen (H)

Legia Warsaw (A)

Legia Warsaw (H)

Djurgarden (A)

Djurgarden (H)

Betis (N)

 

 

It's a wank competition. 

 

 

 

Looks harder than Forest’s route to European Cups x 2 in the olden days &nbsp

[The Year Of The Fox]

That Warsaw away escort to the stadium was epic

 

The Napoli one not so

[Finnegan]

11 hours ago, AKCJ said:

Chelsea's fixtures in this season's conference league;

 

Servette (H)

Servette (A)

Gent (H)

Panathanaikos (A)

Noah (H)

Heidenheim (A)

Astana (A)

Shamrock Rovers (H)

Copenhagen (A)

Copenhagen (H)

Legia Warsaw (A)

Legia Warsaw (H)

Djurgarden (A)

Djurgarden (H)

Betis (N)

 

 

It's a wank competition. 

 

 

 

 

He's not talking about sporting quality though. 

 

He means Warsaw, Athens, Gent, Copenhagen, etc are cracking cities and a good away trip. 

 

It might be a poor footballing competition and a shameless UEFA money spinner but it's a good excuse to go away (where finances permit) to some fun places and see clubs that aren't massive. 

 

[bovril]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

He's not talking about sporting quality though. 

 

He means Warsaw, Athens, Gent, Copenhagen, etc are cracking cities and a good away trip. 

 

It might be a poor footballing competition and a shameless UEFA money spinner but it's a good excuse to go away (where finances permit) to some fun places and see clubs that aren't massive. 

 

Some of the clubs are very big historically, and very well supported. You'd think a lot of 'games gone' English fans would like that, but as usual it's just a big pose.

 

That and the fact that you have a much better chance of getting to the final, which I'd still rather do in the UECL than get knocked out in the UCL first stage. As a couple of others have said, in a way I'd rather Forest get top 5 and then get dumped out of the UCL than progress further in a lesser competition.

[Finnegan]

5 minutes ago, bovril said:

Some of the clubs are very big historically, and very well supported. You'd think a lot of 'games gone' English fans would like that, but as usual it's just a big pose.

 

That and the fact that you have a much better chance of getting to the final, which I'd still rather do in the UECL than get knocked out in the UCL first stage. As a couple of others have said, in a way I'd rather Forest get top 5 and then get dumped out of the UCL than progress further in a lesser competition.

 

Narh man, you get too much money just for playing that group stage even if they lose every game. 

 

Have them get in the Conference League, draw some "little" clubs that their fans think they'll walk over and get humbled by Vitoria, Cercle and FCK. 

 

[RonnieTodger]

Don’t ask this guy for his betting tips

[bovril]

We need more explanation on what makes a 'proper club'. For sure we know that Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are not 'proper clubs'. So I'm guessing they need to play in the Midlands or the North. Not had success in a while. Preferably in a town that makes 1980s Beirut look like an attractive holiday destination.

[Stadt]

3 minutes ago, bovril said:

We need more explanation on what makes a 'proper club'. For sure we know that Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are not 'proper clubs'. So I'm guessing they need to play in the Midlands or the North. Not had success in a while. Preferably in a town that makes 1980s Beirut look like an attractive holiday destination.

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

[FrankieADZ]

20 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Don’t ask this guy for his betting tips

nah some of the comments to the original BBC tweet, its kinda funny how much life just rolls back around and smacks them in the face

[urban.spaceman]

53 minutes ago, Stadt said:

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

It’s really bizarre from some fanbases. I mean you expect it from the likes of Man Utd, Liverpool and Arsenal given their dominance - though with the rules set up directly in their favour it’s practically impossible for them to “fail” in the long term. It’s the likes of Newcastle, Everton and Tottenham that get me. Especially when they list their historical achievements. That’s all very nice guys but have they actually won anything in your lifetime? Until this year Newcastle hadn’t in SEVENTY years; Everton it’s now 30, and Spurs it’s just one in 25 years. Their entitlement is off the scales. 

 

In my lifetime - born in the 80s - not only has my club won ALL BUT ONE (2 if you include the 1971 Charity Shield) of our trophies in that time and for most of them I’ve been there to witness it IN PERSON. By the time we’d won the Community Shield we’d won League One, the Championship, the Premier League AND the FA Cup in the space of 13 years. That’s a ****ing insane achievement for a club like ours. But it’s not respected because we didn’t win much before I was born. Utterly bizarre.

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Stadt said:

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

 

Yeah this, also people acting like clubs with larger catchment areas and attendances, your Sunderlands and your Leeds for example, somehow "deserve" to be in the Premier League while clubs with little stadiums (Bournemouth, Brentford, Fulham) don't. 

 

**** the fact that Sunderland were ran like a horror show and plummeted on merit and that Brentford are a really enviably run club. 

 

[Spudulike]

It is utterly bizarre. Wolves are seen as a big historical club as they were the first to install floodlights.

[MattFox]

Since when did this Forest/Cov mutual bum licking become a thing?

 

 

[davieG]

49 minutes ago, MattFox said:

Since when did this Forest/Cov mutual bum licking become a thing?

 

 

Maybe Forest and Derby have fallen out.

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, MattFox said:

Since when did this Forest/Cov mutual bum licking become a thing?

 

 

 

It's the next stage of Forest Really Don't Care About Leicester™

 

[RonnieTodger]

3 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

nah some of the comments to the original BBC tweet, its kinda funny how much life just rolls back around and smacks them in the face

It really has been a tremendous week 

[Paninistickers]

3 hours ago, Stadt said:

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

True. But you'd expect in 30 years time our success will be nostalgic. I notice videos on social media are starting to come back about Blackburn now. 

 

Back to that 75-89 era, it's funny how Ipswich are always rubbed out of that period. FA Cup in 78 (I think) and a UEFA cup in 81 ....almost entirely forgotten. 

[Craig]

[OadbyBlue]

This “proper club” thing seems to correlate with how long a team has been outside of the Premier League. Guarantee if we spend a decade or 2 out of it, the consensus will be that we are a proper club who they’d like to see back in the league, even before 2015 there was a lot of PL fans saying this about us, a lot of it is a novelty thing.

 

Everyone was rooting for Brentford and Bournemouth before they got promoted, now they are (wrongly) seen as what’s wrong with the league.

[RoboFox]

23 minutes ago, Craig said:

 

Signs for Cov. 93rd minute. Wembley. Vardy's through, one-on-one with Stolarczyk.

 

Suddenly he feigns a shot, smiles and winks before turning around and begins running back towards his own goal. The rest of his team look on speechless. The crowd go silent. He hits it, a top bins 25 yarder into his own net. 

 

He runs over to the Cov fans, removes his shirt and drops his kecks revealing "LC" emblazoned on one arse cheek, "FC" on the other. He gestures to their support to kiss it. 

Suddenly a beam of light emerges from the heavens to take him. He's been chosen to ascend. The god of shithousery. 

 

More realistic scenario IMO. 

[Trav Le Bleu]

1 minute ago, RoboFox said:

 

Signs for Cov. 93rd minute. Wembley. Vardy's through, one-on-one with Stolarczyk.

 

Suddenly he feigns a shot, smiles and winks before turning around and begins running back towards his own goal. The rest of his team look on speechless. The crowd go silent. He hits it, a top bins 25 yarder into his own net. 

 

He runs over to the Cov fans, removes his shirt and drops his kecks revealing "LC" emblazoned on one arse cheek, "FC" on the other. He gestures to their support to kiss it. 

Suddenly a beam of light emerges from the heavens to take him. He's been chosen to ascend. The god of shithousery. 

 

More realistic scenario IMO. 

Brilliant!

 

Slight tweek... The beam of light comes from between his cheeks, blinding the Cov fans, so that the GOAT's goal is the last thing they ever see.

[Vlad the Fox]

1 hour ago, RoboFox said:

 

Signs for Cov. 93rd minute. Wembley. Vardy's through, one-on-one with Stolarczyk.

 

Suddenly he feigns a shot, smiles and winks before turning around and begins running back towards his own goal. The rest of his team look on speechless. The crowd go silent. He hits it, a top bins 25 yarder into his own net. 

 

He runs over to the Cov fans, pulls the pockets out of his specially made shorts, unzips the fly and does his best elephant impression. 

Suddenly a beam of light emerges from the heavens to take him. He's been chosen to ascend. The god of shithousery. 

 

More realistic scenario IMO. 

I’ve added a mild alteration to his celebration. 

 

Edited 14 May 2025 by Vlad the Fox

[Guest Bilo]

7 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

Narh man, you get too much money just for playing that group stage even if they lose every game. 

 

Have them get in the Conference League, draw some "little" clubs that their fans think they'll walk over and get humbled by Vitoria, Cercle and FCK. 

 

Exactly this.

 

If they qualify for the UCL and lose 4-0 to Real before getting dumped out at the league stage, they'll be laughing all the way to the bank and there's a risk that the fluke will act as a launchpad. 

 

Let them get humbled by drawing in Armenia and getting thumped by Dinamo Tbilisi while earning €3.68 as they do it.

[Guest Bilo]

6 hours ago, Stadt said:

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

It's crazy how such clubs are quick to remind us that football wasn't invented in 1992 but refuse to recognise any achievements after it.

[bovril]

5 hours ago, Stadt said:

I hate how recent success is somehow less legitimate or devalued through the general nostalgia bias in football. Had we won the league in 1976 and the cup in 1981, we'd be seen as a 'proper club'. Instead we're ephemeral upstarts.

I think it's because as the game becomes ever more commercialized and detached from the clubs' communities, and as many of the the towns themselves become somewhat soulless and chain-filled, fans cling even harder to an idealized, nostalgia-tinged version of English football. So a club from a traditionally working class town in the West Midlands for example is a 'proper club' despite dwindling attendances in an out of town bowl sponsored by a betting company, and despite the town itself retaining a lot less original character than 'tinpot' places like Brighton and Fulham.