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Trav Le Bleu

Also In The News - part 3

By Trav Le Bleu, in General Chat

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Alf Bentley

Alf Bentley

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27 minutes ago, Daggers said:

Will never happen.

 

He's given plenty of good interviews but the public perception remains driven by the narrative coming from billionaire media moguls. People just don't care for anything other than soundbites according with their world view.

 

At best, news organisations will see the wind change and cease the vilification but that does nothing to address the smears they've already published.

 

Doubtless true for some people, but not for others, I think.

 

It's true that some (on all sides) will never question their allegiance/world view and will inhabit the echo chambers of their favoured media or social media. Others will opt out and not vote.

 

But there is also a substantial minority who aren't particularly aligned or engaged with politics but pay a bit more attention when there's a general election. Those are the people who could buy into key Labour messages/policies and could warm to Starmer as a national leader, if the presentation is right.

 

That won't penetrate Twitter echo chambers or The Sun or Daily Mail (unless, as you say, they see the wind change and tone down their usual pro-Right partisanship). But a lot of people still see or hear news on BBC, ITV, Sky, radio stations or Google News, which will offer more neutral coverage - and an election campaign will present much more politics and much more of Starmer, Sunak & co to voters' ears and eyes. I'm less of a pessimist than you seem to be. I believe that some pretty non-political people will listen and some can be influenced to some extent.

 

Of course, if Labour do win it'll mainly be because of a widespread public perception that the country is in a state, that the Tories bear great responsibility for this and that "it's time for a change". But during the campaign Labour will have an opportunity to win some more positive voter buy-in. Not from people who are currently hostile to them, but from those with no strong allegiance and those who are currently dissatisfied with their lives and/or the Tories but who think Labour would be no better or that Starmer is a boring, identikit, dishonest politician with no clear policies. Given the challenges in the in-tray, it's important that a few more people buy into Lab plans/Starmer. A win based only on anti-Tory votes and unthinking "time for a change" is a recipe for a Lab govt that soon becomes unpopular if it doesn't solve all the country's problems quickly, which it won't.

StanSP

StanSP

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Fair play to the woman on Sky News now calling out Sunak and Co supporters of Israel about the latest actions. 

 

Shameful that senior world leaders condone this and back Israel. 

 

Israel 'apologises' for the 'accidental' bombing. Fakest apology ever. 

st albans fox

st albans fox

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Is there or isn’t there an embargo on discussion of the Hamas/Israel conflict 

 

I think a strategic discussion about the threat of a wider conflict in the region would be useful as it may not at this stage involve having to ‘take sides’ or have strong opinions 

MPH

MPH

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8 hours ago, Jon the Hat said:

It says War is worse than Hell because innocent people are caught up in war.  


 

oops my bad. No excuses other than I’m a div. Sorry @Daggers.

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Jon the Hat

Jon the Hat

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11 hours ago, Lionator said:

I’m not an expert but when you’re struggling to get the working classes to vote for you, removing the bankers bonus cap seems illogical. Unless you’ve already conceded that you’re going to lose the next election and wants your mates to get rich? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67206997#comments

The cap on bankers bonuses was only ever a political stunt I think, and has probably resulted in higher salaries instead, which makes no sense to banks as they are paying regardless of results.  Getting rid of it is politically risky though.  Whether people who care were likely to vote Conservative?  Doutbtful.

Sampson

Sampson

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On 23/10/2023 at 10:28, Daggers said:

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Pretty sure little kids, disabled people and old ladies do all go to hell tbf. We are supposedly all born in a state of sin and anyone who hasn’t asked for forgiveness for that sin-from-birth supposedly does. 

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MPH

MPH

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4 hours ago, MONreborn said:

Hello, was wondering where the threat to discuss terrorism by Hamas and Israel against innocent civilians is? 

We,, if you can manage it without talking about politics or religion then you found the right place!

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SecretPro

SecretPro

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18 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Cretin Peter Bone suspended from Parliament!!..

Drain the swamp!!

Horrible piece of s**t.

One of the most disgusting, vile, lying people knocking around parliament and that says something. 

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StanSP

StanSP

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44 minutes ago, weller54 said:

Cretin Peter Bone suspended from Parliament!!..

Drain the swamp!!

Horrible piece of s**t.

Does this mean another by-election for wherever he was an MP for?

Raj

Raj

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1 hour ago, weller54 said:

Cretin Peter Bone suspended from Parliament!!..

Drain the swamp!!

Horrible piece of s**t.

Looks like Sven Goran Eriksson innit🙄

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