Premier League 2024/25

[South Shire Fox]

Remember guys people should boycott Qatar and Saudi Arabia after all their human rights abuses and the way they treat gay people (especially after their little rainbow campaign the other week).... oh whats that, our Football association now support them, are in bed with the Royal family and own half of London? 

 

Cant wait to listen to that helmet Gary Neville give a little speech on Saudis appalling human rights abuses while hes out there working as a pundit for ITV 

Edited 11 December 2024 by South Shire Fox

[Nalis]

'Let's see how Pep would have done at a team with no money' has to be one of the most tired rhetorics in football. Wtf would have even prove?

 

Hundreds have failed in management at the very top with money. He hasnt.

[StanSP]

Surely Chelsea have known since September/Oct that they'd be playing in Kazakhstan tomorrow and then 7pm on Sunday? Why wait til now to kick up a fuss? 

 

And at the time the game is moved to Sunday 7pm, do the club not have a say in that too? 

 

I know Sky get a lot of shit (rightly so) but could the club not have kicked back and said we want to play on Monday instead? 

[RowlattsFox]

Brentford play next midweek in the cup so cannot play Monday. 

I have sympathy, long trip in probable ridiculous conditions but other than postpone it, I don't know what else can be done. 

They shouldn't be in UEFA competitions. 

 

Chelsea should send their kids and if they lose so be it, they will easily still qualify. 

[when_you're_smiling]

6 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

Brentford play next midweek in the cup so cannot play Monday. 

I have sympathy, long trip in probable ridiculous conditions but other than postpone it, I don't know what else can be done. 

They shouldn't be in UEFA competitions. 

 

Chelsea should send their kids and if they lose so be it, they will easily still qualify. 

By kids do you mean our best player from last year and other £30m plus signings?

It’s always the domestic games they moan about, never the fixture congestion created by their collective greed of the wanting

mote European games. They’re still moaning even though Brentford have had to bend over backwards to accommodate the fixture on a Sunday night.

[Lambert09]

36 minutes ago, Nalis said:

'Let's see how Pep would have done at a team with no money' has to be one of the most tired rhetorics in football. Wtf would have even prove?

 

Hundreds have failed in management at the very top with money. He hasnt.

No different to Enzo really. The style he uses works exceptionally well… if you have the best players.

 

Both would fail massively if they were given weak squads.  His ideas are designed for dominating, they don’t create the dominance, it’s the individuals ability that leads to that working.  
 

He is very obviously a genius for seeing how those methods give them all the advantages to win a game of football. it doesn’t make a jot of difference if he couldn’t do it at stoke because pulls couldn’t make man city dominate the way he has either. Pep is the best of the best for managing a big club, that doesn’t mean he’s the manager that can most improve a side, just that he knows the formula to make a top squad win.  

 

Horses for courses and all that. 

[winteriscoming]

42 minutes ago, Nalis said:

'Let's see how Pep would have done at a team with no money' has to be one of the most tired rhetorics in football. Wtf would have even prove?

 

Hundreds have failed in management at the very top with money. He hasnt.

While I agree it would be interesting to see. 
When you look at what Fergie achieved at Aberdeen before Man Utd and Klopp at Mainz. It’s hardly been starting from the bottom to the top with Pep in management Barcelona, Bayern and Man City. 

[Lambert09]

6 minutes ago, Lambert09 said:

No different to Enzo really. The style he uses works exceptionally well… if you have the best players.

 

Both would fail massively if they were given weak squads.  His ideas are designed for dominating, they don’t create the dominance, it’s the individuals ability that leads to that working.  
 

He is very obviously a genius for seeing how those methods give them all the advantages to win a game of football. it doesn’t make a jot of difference if he couldn’t do it at stoke because pulls couldn’t make man city dominate the way he has either. Pep is the best of the best for managing a big club, that doesn’t mean he’s the manager that can most improve a side, just that he knows the formula to make a top squad win.  

 

Horses for courses and all that. 

To add to this, there’s a really nasty phenomenon reaching the game right now, where managers are choosing themselves ahead of the clubs they manage. 
 

They use the big club philosophies no matter the outcome on their team, just to show that they could do a big job. it worked perfectly for Kompany and not for Burnley. Russell Martin is very obviously doing this as well. he’s not dumb, he knows that trying to overplay from the back with the worst players in the league will cost them points but it will potentially show his next employer that he could work with better players. 
 

Whilst Enzo is off riding high, I like to remind myself that as great as he is, he would have doomed us for his personal gain. it was project Enzo and he would never have attempted to be pragmatic to earn us more points… because the philosophy would have landed him a Chelsea job.  
 

There’s an argument that. Mckenna could be doing the same at Ipswich… does he genuinely believe this is the best way for them to stay up? Or perhaps is he considering how it makes him look for his next job? 

Edited 11 December 2024 by Lambert09

[jayfox26]

Turns out the answer to this wasn't " 4-1 up and you fcked it up"

[bmt]

3 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Turns out the answer to this wasn't " 4-1 up and you fcked it up"

All for one and one for all?

[jayfox26]

23 minutes ago, bmt said:

All for one and one for all?

Is the correct answer. You're a more logical thinker than I am. 

[Corky]

Hopefully this can put to bed the supposed issue that domestic football is causing the problems. European football is bloated and forcing this.

[MarriedaLeicesterGirl]

12 minutes ago, Corky said:

Hopefully a can put to bed the supposed issue that domestic football is causing the problems. European football is bloated and forcing this.

I am not going to argue against the statement that European football is bloated, but the complaints from "Big" teams in Europe really aggravated me.

 

You know what else is bloated? Their squads. They have to play more games, but they pay more for the players not making their bench than many other teams pay for all of their starters.

 

Oh, my! They may have actually make a player making 150K a year step foot on the pitch!

 

Sorry if I don't feel the urge to weep for them.

[ForestAreMagic]

24 minutes ago, Corky said:

Hopefully this can put to bed the supposed issue that domestic football is causing the problems. European football is bloated and forcing this.

so are these stupid summer and winter games in Australia, US etc.  The clubs complaining about fixture congestion are the clubs causing fixture congestion.  They should be ignored.  

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

To add to this, there’s a really nasty phenomenon reaching the game right now, where managers are choosing themselves ahead of the clubs they manage. 
 

They use the big club philosophies no matter the outcome on their team, just to show that they could do a big job. it worked perfectly for Kompany and not for Burnley. Russell Martin is very obviously doing this as well. he’s not dumb, he knows that trying to overplay from the back with the worst players in the league will cost them points but it will potentially show his next employer that he could work with better players. 
 

Whilst Enzo is off riding high, I like to remind myself that as great as he is, he would have doomed us for his personal gain. it was project Enzo and he would never have attempted to be pragmatic to earn us more points… because the philosophy would have landed him a Chelsea job.  
 

There’s an argument that. Mckenna could be doing the same at Ipswich… does he genuinely believe this is the best way for them to stay up? Or perhaps is he considering how it makes him look for his next job? 

Cooper bucked the trend then 

[murphy]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

To add to this, there’s a really nasty phenomenon reaching the game right now, where managers are choosing themselves ahead of the clubs they manage. 
 

They use the big club philosophies no matter the outcome on their team, just to show that they could do a big job. it worked perfectly for Kompany and not for Burnley. Russell Martin is very obviously doing this as well. he’s not dumb, he knows that trying to overplay from the back with the worst players in the league will cost them points but it will potentially show his next employer that he could work with better players. 
 

Whilst Enzo is off riding high, I like to remind myself that as great as he is, he would have doomed us for his personal gain. it was project Enzo and he would never have attempted to be pragmatic to earn us more points… because the philosophy would have landed him a Chelsea job.  
 

There’s an argument that. Mckenna could be doing the same at Ipswich… does he genuinely believe this is the best way for them to stay up? Or perhaps is he considering how it makes him look for his next job? 

Sorry, I'm not buying that.  You think that Martin is showcasing his talent and putting himself in the shop window by losing every week? 

[Lambert09]

2 hours ago, murphy said:

Sorry, I'm not buying that.  You think that Martin is showcasing his talent and putting himself in the shop window by losing every week? 

i’m not saying it’s working for him but it what he’s trying. 
 

I can guarantee he knows that playing this way is the not going to get the best outcome.  He’s seen what happened for kompany and will be licking his lips 

[JimJams]

Kompany strolled to the Championship title proving that he's capable when he has superior players to the rest of the league.  Martin had to scrape through the playoffs whilst a newly promoted side took the other auto spot.  He's not shown the big clubs that he's got what they want.  Kompany and Enzo did.

 

[Corky]

3 hours ago, murphy said:

Sorry, I'm not buying that.  You think that Martin is showcasing his talent and putting himself in the shop window by losing every week? 

He publicly criticises his players for not doing what he wants. He won't change despite the results so why not get ahead and tell everyone it isn't your doing?

 

Yeah, he is promoting himself.

[Leicesterpool]

6 hours ago, RowlattsFox said:

Brentford play next midweek in the cup so cannot play Monday. 

I have sympathy, long trip in probable ridiculous conditions but other than postpone it, I don't know what else can be done. 

They shouldn't be in UEFA competitions. 

 

Chelsea should send their kids and if they lose so be it, they will easily still qualify. 

Chelsea have a huge squad and should have not any issues, they don't need a full strength xi... pointless them complaining. Non league clubs have players working all day then play a game of football at night and they don't moan. Chelsea have luxury of squad rotation so use it.

[PhillippaT]

5 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Is the correct answer. You're a more logical thinker than I am. 

I used to suck at Catchphrase, too

[BenTheFox]

7 hours ago, Nalis said:

'Let's see how Pep would have done at a team with no money' has to be one of the most tired rhetorics in football. Wtf would have even prove?

 

Hundreds have failed in management at the very top with money. He hasnt.

He is by far the most influential football manager of the past 25 years, and it's not even close. 

 

It's testament to how good he is that many that have worked under him have gone onto to be very good managers/coaches themselves (Arteta, Alonso, Xabi, Maresca etc.). Whereas you'll struggle to name many successful managers who worked under Alex Ferguson or even Mourinho. 

[Tomo260]

Maybe we could get a draw against the upcoming Man City game... 😶‍🌫️

Edited 11 December 2024 by Tomo260

[murphy]

1 hour ago, BenTheFox said:

He is by far the most influential football manager of the past 25 years, and it's not even close. 

 

It's testament to how good he is that many that have worked under him have gone onto to be very good managers/coaches themselves (Arteta, Alonso, Xabi, Maresca etc.). Whereas you'll struggle to name many successful managers who worked under Alex Ferguson or even Mourinho. 

Brendan 

[Jattdogg]

Maybe we shouldn't have so many European competitions so these tossers would stop whining about too many games etc.

 

Oh, they wouldn't like that?? Shut up and deal with it then.

 

For what it is worth i personally think the champions league should only be for champions. This would drastically cut down on the number of games. Yes, it would be a small amount of teams but it's about being the champion of champions isn't it?

 

Europa should be for fa cup winners and maybe 2nd place. If fa cup winners also place 2nd then no extra team is put forward.

 

Europa conference shouldn't even exist.

 

That means basically most teams won't be in Europe and won't complain about too many games or a thursday night game in Astana and Sunday night game in Southampton.

 

I'd rather watch quality epl games and Hopefully more epic league cup games.

 

Maybe I am in the minority.