Premier League 2024/25

[LCFCJohn]

47 minutes ago, The Year Of The Fox said:

If only we’d sacked that leprechaun the summer after the FA Cup, we’d be absolutely nowhere near the situation we’re now in

 

I like Ange, I’m not particularly fond of Spurs, but this is the correct decision when you think back to the first paragraph 

This is what stops me judging Spurs for this decision. A club and its fans know best and outsiders aren’t always best placed to judge. 
 

I was going to make the same point about Rodgers. We could see it was starting to decline but that FA Cup win bought him all that extra time. I don’t know if at any stage, Aiyawatt was worried about the Ranieri type backlash back in 2017. Probably not as that would require him to actually think.

[LCFCJohn]

A little deluded Forest gem here!

 

They are talking about Newcastle’s interest in Elanga and who they could have from them instead. I don’t know which is the funnier part, that they think Harvey would consider them or that they think Elanga is actually fit to clean Harvey’s boots let alone worth £25/30mill more 

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Youth Team

Est.1865 said:

Miley wants away too.

Don’t really want to sell Elanga but this could have PSR vibes written all over it.

Not sure I want some washed up player in any deal, so I guess IF there is anything in this talk a young prospect joining us….like Anderson from last year dare I say….is slightly more palatable.

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Harvey Barnes if we could get him + 25-30m

[Super_horns]

If the general reaction to the sacking is disappointment and anger then he or any manager will have to start well in league and Europe to keep the fans onside .

And I think the fans liked the way Ange wanted to play compared to previous managers but obviously they got caught out too much at the back particularly in the league hence the number of defeats

[Sunbury Fox]

If Brentford lose Frank and Mbeumo, you have to wonder if that gives one of the 3 promoted clubs a real chance of staying up next season. 

[FoxinNotts]

Just now, Sunbury Fox said:

If Brentford lose Frank and Mbeumo, you have to wonder if that gives one of the 3 promoted clubs a real chance of staying up next season. 

You would think so wouldn’t you

[foxfanazer]

3 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

If Brentford lose Frank and Mbeumo, you have to wonder if that gives one of the 3 promoted clubs a real chance of staying up next season. 

Much like Brighton and Bournemouth they just seem to always have such a good succession plan. Unlike our muppets they actually recruit with some sort of continuation in mind therefore not needing major overhaul. No doubt they'll be weaker but think they'll be alright personally 

[ajthefox]

Can't help but think Frank would be a great appointment for Spurs if given time.

[foxfanazer]

Just now, ajthefox said:

Can't help but think Frank would be a great appointment for Spurs if given time.

He'd be superb. Heard a few of their fans sneering at the idea. Quite frankly (no pun intended) they should count themselves extremely lucky if they get him

[JimJams]

8 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

Much like Brighton and Bournemouth they just seem to always have such a good succession plan. Unlike our muppets they actually recruit with some sort of continuation in mind therefore not needing major overhaul. No doubt they'll be weaker but think they'll be alright personally 

It's as different thing though replacing a manager, especially one that's been in the job as long as Frank has.  They've done well replacing forwards in the last 5 years, but one shit manager and they could be in trouble.  They has a poor season in 23/24.  Get a repeat of that with somebody in charge that nobody believes in and it's shit creek, no paddle.

Could of course go the other way.  We might see Frank struggle at Spurs and Brentford continue to thrive.

Edited 7 June 2025 by JimJams

[filbertway]

4 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

This is what stops me judging Spurs for this decision. A club and its fans know best and outsiders aren’t always best placed to judge. 
 

I was going to make the same point about Rodgers. We could see it was starting to decline but that FA Cup win bought him all that extra time. I don’t know if at any stage, Aiyawatt was worried about the Ranieri type backlash back in 2017. Probably not as that would require him to actually think.

I just went on to the fighting cock to see what the reaction was. 

 

4th post i read said they should "go for the PSG guy". I closed the tab and am still none the wider.

 

Literally every forum has the same types of people, it's great

 

[The Horse's Mouth]

Tottenham literally lost the most amount of games without being relegated in a premier league season, this was the perfect decision for both parties 

[BillyFOX12]

Thomas Frank reached the Championship play-offs twice with the 14th lowest budget, and he’s kept Brentford comfortably in the Premier League for four years running with the second lowest budget. We should look to sign him.

[fox_up_north]

From the outside you look and think "trophy so sacking is madness" but if we'd have binned Brendan after the FA Cup win, the long term gains could have been much better.

 

Spurs won EL with a terrible own goal. If United pip them to it, Ange is gone the next day. 

 

It's not great but makes sense. He walks away going "won a trophy, can't please everyone" and they get a clean slate with UCL and a new manager. 

[Wortho]

13 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Some people have been saying Spurs had a better season than Arsenal.  If that was the case why have they sacked their manager? 

Spurs might’ve have sacked Ange but they still had a better season.

In fact so did Palace, Chelsea and Newcastle. You could even include Leeds😂

[SouthStandUpperTier]

The current Spurs squad is the most un-Thomas Frank group of players out there. It's going to take him a few transfer windows to churn that squad over and get in the players he needs, so there could be some short-term pain there. Will Levy have the patience for that?

[Samilktray]

That Arsenal fan on here is really weird

Edited 7 June 2025 by Samilktray

[Dan]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

Much like Brighton and Bournemouth they just seem to always have such a good succession plan. Unlike our muppets they actually recruit with some sort of continuation in mind therefore not needing major overhaul. No doubt they'll be weaker but think they'll be alright personally 

You heard similar chat when they lost Toney. They're a well oiled machine. Three players hit double figures for them last season - incredible really.

 

I like Frank but the record of managers leaving Brentford would worry me a bit. It feels a very well structured club and probably a slightly easier job than it looks - as harsh as that sounds. I do like him though. He deserves a crack.

[Torquay Gunner]

10 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

That Arsenal fan on here is really weird

For being anti spurs? If so guilty as charged. 

[James and his giant peach]

5 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

This is what stops me judging Spurs for this decision. A club and its fans know best and outsiders aren’t always best placed to judge. 
 

I was going to make the same point about Rodgers. We could see it was starting to decline but that FA Cup win bought him all that extra time. I don’t know if at any stage, Aiyawatt was worried about the Ranieri type backlash back in 2017. Probably not as that would require him to actually think.

The FA Cup season we finished 5th. 5th. Fifth. In the Premier league. The decline was the next two seasons. Hindsight is amazing isn't it? There's not one person who wanted Rodgers out at all at that time it would have been mental. 

[Wortho]

4 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

For being anti spurs? If so guilty as charged. 

At least you can console yourself knowing that arsenal were the best team in the CL👍

Did they receive the top four trophy?

[Torquay Gunner]

Just now, Wortho said:

At least you can console yourself knowing that arsenal were the best team in the CL👍

Did they receive the top four trophy?

Oh you’re quoting Arteta and Wenger, not particularly original, but hey ho. 

[dmayne7]

4 minutes ago, James and his giant peach said:

The FA Cup season we finished 5th. 5th. Fifth. In the Premier league. The decline was the next two seasons. Hindsight is amazing isn't it? There's not one person who wanted Rodgers out at all at that time it would have been mental. 

That's absolutely not true. Lots of people were frustrated that we had yet again blown such a strong position in the league and it was basically Iheanacho who bailed Rodgers out (then decided to immediately bench at the start of next season so great management). The season before when we also blew it, that was where lots of things conspired against us so less of a bottle job. The second 5th place was a failure entirely of our own making.

 

From a PR perspective, we absolutely could not have sacked Rodgers then even though there were a couple of people calling for his head, but the obvious issues were there and were being pointed out. But after that Forest game, he should have been sacked and lots felt it then. People will talk about a European semi final but that was after falling out of the EL in which we were joint favourites with Napoli, so anything less than winning that was a failure. And we went from something like 13th with 3 games to go, to finish 8th when there was no pressure and it didn't really matter. I think we were something like 17th in the expected points table that season which shows you how absolutely woeful we had been and that it was just the quality of players at our disposal bailing us out.

[LCFCJohn]

5 minutes ago, James and his giant peach said:

The FA Cup season we finished 5th. 5th. Fifth. In the Premier league. The decline was the next two seasons. Hindsight is amazing isn't it? There's not one person who wanted Rodgers out at all at that time it would have been mental. 

I didn’t say that was the case. I said many of us could see the decline was starting, not that we were actively want/calling for him out.

 

The performances for much of that season weren’t good. The 5th place did flatter us. We had a lot of injuries and had shown mentally we were weak for the second season in a row by bottling the lead we had. It’s not hindsight to say cracks were showing that were papered by the FA Cup win as some of us did think that at the time. Those who dared say anything were verbally attacked on here mind.

 

Yes it escalated by the start of the next season when despite results being steady, performances were getting worse and worse and we became a meme regarding our set play defensive record. But it didn’t just happen overnight if you look deeper than the league position.

[Dan]

20 minutes ago, James and his giant peach said:

The FA Cup season we finished 5th. 5th. Fifth. In the Premier league. The decline was the next two seasons. Hindsight is amazing isn't it? There's not one person who wanted Rodgers out at all at that time it would have been mental. 

Luckily we had the buffer season of 2021/22 where anybody who watched us knew we were shit and he should've been moved on. As ever they did nothing. We even had a very early warning in 2022/23. Alas.

[Wortho]

19 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Oh you’re quoting Arteta and Wenger, not particularly original, but hey ho. 

Well they have managed your club. Who do you want me to quote?

Edited 7 June 2025 by Wortho
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