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12 minutes ago, adejo92 said:

I know people complain that he's greedy, and to a degree its hard to argue that too much, but there were a couple of times yesterday he has played people in and they've missed sitters.

 

If my team mates were that sh1t, I probably wouldnt pass either.

 

If professional footballers could do the basics of their job, he'd have 2 assists & be getting praise.

He missed one himself in the first minute as well, didn't even connect with it.

 

I don't mind Ayew needs to play deeper though if we want to score more goals.

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2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

The bloke scores 4 goals a season and is considered a forward, he's in no position to be critical of his team mates missing chances. Got one of the lowest goals to games ratio of any attacker/winger/creative midfielder in the last decade. 

 

 

I agree with this but I'm finding it hard to blame Ayew for just doing what he's always done and that is consistent with the limit of his skill set. The fault lies in poor recruitment (Daka) and a failure to provide alternatives, unless of course Carranza proves to be the answer. 

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23 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

I agree with this but I'm finding it hard to blame Ayew for just doing what he's always done and that is consistent with the limit of his skill set. The fault lies in poor recruitment (Daka) and a failure to provide alternatives, unless of course Carranza proves to be the answer. 

Yeah I agree to be fair. This is nothing new with Ayew, you know exactly what you're getting with him. Can be useful but you do not have him as a focal point of the team week in, week out and expect a pantheon of goals. 

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19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Yeah I agree to be fair. This is nothing new with Ayew, you know exactly what you're getting with him. Can be useful but you do not have him as a focal point of the team week in, week out and expect a pantheon of goals. 

probably wouldn’t be if Daka wasnt totally hopeless

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Zero chance we finish top 2 with him as the starting striker - surely daka scores more goals if played for at least 70 mins every week - surely 

Posted
10 minutes ago, jv1 said:

Zero chance we finish top 2 with him as the starting striker - surely daka scores more goals if played for at least 70 mins every week - surely 

No chance. Daka is worse than Akinbiyi and no one can convince me otherwise. 

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13 minutes ago, jv1 said:

Zero chance we finish top 2 with him as the starting striker - surely daka scores more goals if played for at least 70 mins every week - surely 

I think it's fairly likely he would. 7 goals and 5 assists last time in this division in about 12 90s - the Ghanaian Firmino has put up better G+A than that once in his career and that was over a decade ago in Ligue 1. Daka might be a bad striker but Ayew is not a striker. Ideally Carranza settles and starts ahead of both.

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7 minutes ago, Nobbyburton said:

No chance. Daka is worse than Akinbiyi and no one can convince me otherwise. 

I watched Akinbiyi a lot in person and Daka is a better footballer. 
 

Both are still sh*t, mind. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Soar Fox said:

Tbf before he left them in 2024 palace fans didn’t have much to cheer about. 
 

Since getting rid of him & actually getting players in who can score and offer the team more than just winning cheap freekicks and slowing down every attack they have actually done quite well. 

I remember looking at the season before he left Palace their win rate in the league with him starting was around 30% and without him starting it was 70%. It was a sample size of 31 games vs 7 games mind you but it just shows you how much a player like Ayew can hold a team back.

 

Anyone who has played football themselves know that ball hogs like him are a nightmare to play with.

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Looked alright for the short period he was in at 10 behind Carranza. Despite his lack of dynamism I'd rather have him there than out wide where he slows down play too much.

 

It's frustrating when he holds on to it for too long and dribbles into cul-de-sacs by the 18 yard line, but his hold up play when it's done more centrally really does free up those around him. Monga shone because of it.

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6 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

Looked alright for the short period he was in at 10 behind Carranza. Despite his lack of dynamism I'd rather have him there than out wide where he slows down play too much.

 

It's frustrating when he holds on to it for too long and dribbles into cul-de-sacs by the 18 yard line, but his hold up play when it's done more centrally really does free up those around him. Monga shone because of it.

Monga shone because of Ayew lol

 

 

 

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Posted

Ayew will continue to be an opinion splitter until the day he leaves. 
 

Since pre season, I’ve felt that his link up play especially has been undervalued by a large chunk of our fanbase, but what was evident again at the weekend is that he possesses many frustrating traits. Holding onto the ball too long is one thing, but there were about three incidents in the second half where he carried the ball into good areas, only for him to run into a blind alley and end up losing possession. 
 

The comparisons to Bobby Firmino are fair, but Firmino managed double figures worth of league goals in 5/8 seasons he was at Liverpool, while also having Salah and Mane playing off him. 
 

Mowbray made a point on Sky at the weekend stating you’d probably need 70+ goals to get promoted, recent history suggests that might not have to be the case. Burnley, Sunderland and Luton in recent seasons got promoted scoring less than 70 goals, but what they had was Brownhill, Flemming, Isidor and Morris all managing double figures worth. 
 

If Cifuentes persists with Ayew as a 9, then we’re relying on a few situations to happen. 
 

Ayew to suddenly manage double figures worth of goals

Fatawu and Mavididi managing double figures

Ramsey or James to suddenly turn into a Frank Lampard type of midfielder

 

The way our team looks, the only way I see us being promoted, is if Fatawu and Mavididi hit double figures. 

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Posted

Rather than reply to everyone in this thread, I though a better way to do things would be to cover it in the weekly analysis show on Blue Tinted Glasses. I compared all of our striking options, which ones are better for which purposes, their pros and their cons:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_LysR4sPfQ&t=1837s

 

We compared the types of runs and the problems our various options can pose the opposition and what we could do to improve our goal scoring in general. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted

I was shocked to read today he's had the most shots in the league and yet only has 1 goal and the worst conversion (less shocked). I honestly don't recall many chances, he's seldom in the conversation when rhe ball is in the nox but he will have pot shots from anywhere I suppose.

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I was shocked to read today he's had the most shots in the league and yet only has 1 goal and the worst conversion (less shocked). I honestly don't recall many chances, he's seldom in the conversation when rhe ball is in the nox but he will have pot shots from anywhere I suppose.

 

 

Felt like all he did against Sheff weds were 30 yard strikes straight at the keeper? At least 4/5?

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2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I was shocked to read today he's had the most shots in the league and yet only has 1 goal and the worst conversion (less shocked). I honestly don't recall many chances, he's seldom in the conversation when rhe ball is in the nox but he will have pot shots from anywhere I suppose.

 

 

Stat padded against sheff weds when he was shooting from everywhere. He is the main reason we’re struggling in the final 3rd. I wouldn’t play him in the 10, let alone up top on his own. The strangest attacking player I’ve ever seen. What goes through his mind when he gets the ball with his back to goal is to dribble towards the right back position.

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10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I was shocked to read today he's had the most shots in the league and yet only has 1 goal and the worst conversion (less shocked). I honestly don't recall many chances, he's seldom in the conversation when rhe ball is in the nox but he will have pot shots from anywhere I suppose.

 

 

Not sure that's true. FBref have him joint 10th on 15, 6 of which were against Wednesday when he was just shooting straight at the keeper from about 30 yards. Not even the most shots in our team because apparently Fatawu has had 16. Conversion rate he's joint lowest of players who have scored but then obviously there's everyone who has taken a shot without scoring below him.

 

But you're right, most of the time he's not actually close enough to the goal to take even a speculative shot. All part of the duties of a false nine of course.

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Not that I’d wish injury on any player, but I think the only way we are freed from his slow, lumbering grip is if he gets injured, so I went to check his record… He has missed one game through injury in his entire career, at 34 years old. 
 

The bloke is indestructible. 

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