Vardy better than Kane & Rooney ??

[justfoxes]

See Enzo has been talking to the guys at Talksport and thinks Vardy is the better striker than Kane or Rooney,  unfortunately Vardy wasn’t given as much respect by Southgate so what’s your thoughts?

 

 

[foxfanazer]

He's better than Kane imo but Rooney is one of the best English players ever. Either way I wouldn't have swapped him for anyone

[JayTheFox]

I think considering Vardy has a premier league and fa cup winners medal and his stats are very similar to Kane, there may be an argument to say possibly with him. 
 

But I’d suggest Rooney would be a step to far 

[fox_favourite]

Rooney was the better striker. He had more to his game. 

 

But Vards and Kane in their prime, I think Vards is better. 

 

We all know that Vards is a club legend for life 

[chapero82]

11 minutes ago, foxfanazer said:

He's better than Kane imo but Rooney is one of the best English players ever. Either way I wouldn't have swapped him for anyone

Rooney is nowhere near the best player ever!  He only scored 1 goal in the World Cup finals...

[foxfanazer]

Just now, chapero82 said:

Rooney is nowhere near the best player ever!  He only scored 1 goal in the World Cup finals...

I don't mean for England necessarily but talent wise he had it all. Vardy has longevity over him though 

[demon_dog]

I've always said that having watched footie for 60+ years that Vardy at his best was one of the best strikers I have ever seen. Just a shame that it was so late in his career before he came to to fore.

Imagine if he'd been playing at this level 5 years earlier. He'd have been untouchable.

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, demon_dog said:

I've always said that having watched footie for 60+ years that Vardy at his best was one of the best strikers I have ever seen. Just a shame that it was so late in his career before he came to to fore.

Imagine if he'd been playing at this level 5 years earlier. He'd have been untouchable.

I personally don't think he'd have been half the player he ended up being. He'd have had all of his raw 'Vardyness' coached out of him 

[shailen]

All round Kane and Rooney were better players.

 

What Vardy does is give you something totally different, he's relentless, he's a great finisher and on the shoulder there is no one better with those runs. He also has the ability to drag teams through games single handedly. His goal was the catalyst for our great escape against West Brom, his start of the season form was the momentum we needed for our prem win, his goals were critical for our CL run, he turned up again in the first few seasons under Rodgers when we should have got CL. All in all, he's been our most consistent player in the big games which you could argue Kane and Rooney haven't consistently done when it really matters.

[foxfanazer]

1 minute ago, shailen said:

All round Kane and Rooney were better players.

 

What Vardy does is give you something totally different, he's relentless, he's a great finisher and on the shoulder there is no one better with those runs. He also has the ability to drag teams through games single handedly. His goal was the catalyst for our great escape against West Brom, his start of the season form was the momentum we needed for our prem win, his goals were critical for our CL run, he turned up again in the first few seasons under Rodgers when we should have got CL. All in all, he's been our most consistent player in the big games which you could argue Kane and Rooney haven't consistently done when it really matters.

This is what elevates him above Kane imo. Kane's a flat track bullying stat padder and not a team player

[LCFCCHRIS]

He was definitely one of the world's best at one point and even now punches way above what his age would suggest for most strikers. 

[StanSP]

Vardy is more successful than Kane given the comparative trophy cabinets. 

 

Rooney was insanely good for a short amount of time. 

 

Kane is probably the better all-round striker over the two. He's prolific just like all 3. 

 

All of them are superb. Vardy just gets overlooked and under-appreciated by the masses in these kinds of conversations because he doesn't play for the top 6.

But to me, you don't get to be in the top 20 PL goalscoring strikers of all time by luck. And it's even more of a feat to do it in a team that isn't in the top 6...

[RowlattsFox]

Pointless argument really and you'll never get an agreement. All have different characteristics that make them top players and depend on what you want from a striker. Rooney was the better all-round player though. A Rooney/Vardy partnership would've been a great watch. 

[tinpot_fox]

Listening to Vardy after the England tournament teams he was involved in, he was injured so didn’t play enough or well enough. So a bit unlucky in that respect. Kane and Rooney probably had more caps than they should have had and were picked consistently as being “big game players” even if there was another potentially in much better form. Kane taking corners in a tournament pretty much sums up the England team selection for a long period of time. Obviously Vardy would have done a decent job in an England shirt if he’d been picked more and his style of play was catered for (and you’d hope decent players would play to his strengths too). 

[TrentFox]

Impossible question to answer as they’re all very different strikers, with their own unique and world-class skill-set. What I do know is that England had prime Vardy and prime Kane and couldn’t find a way to have two of our biggest match-winners on the pitch at the same time. That was appalling management, Roy. 

[Ashley]

Vards isn't better than prime Rooney, no. 

 

Probably better than Kane. If Vards is younger he'd have been at a big 6 club let's be honest, and his goals record would have been better than it is. 

 

 

[Pliskin]

Rooney had the potential to be the best in the world in my opinion. He had everything as a teenager, genuinely frightening player to come up against, pace, power, aggression and an ability to score goals, he had an amazing career, but England not winning a major trophy probably kept his name out of the same sentence as Messi and Ronaldo….. but he was every bit as good in my opinion. 
 

Vardy I would say in his day was better than Kane, Vardy at times was unplayable….. especially in the season we won the premier league, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more dominant display from a striker. The goal that always stands out to me was his goal V Sunderland, when he just completely bullied Kaboul leaving him on a heap on the floor…. Vardy will forever be one of the premier leagues best ever strikers, and in that era Southgate missed a massive trick not setting England up around him, imagine the damage he could have done…….

[Sly]

If we are talking about players in their prime, I personally feel that Rooney or Owen had a higher ceiling than Vardy. 

 

What Vardy has and Kane might also actually, is longevity. Vardy doesn’t become the player he is without Pearson though. He nearly quit the game after a year with us. So it’s hard to say if he’d been as prolific at a younger age. 
 

Similar with Kane. He didn’t look special when he was with us. 
 

Vardy will be remembered for the streak and  being the spearhead of the Premier League title win. Vardy is a Premier League Legend. Similar to Shearer with Blackburn really? 
 

Career wise it isn’t even close in reality. Kane has the best goals per game ratio, however that’ll drop as he gets older. His lack of trophies and individual honours is terrible though! 

 

Rooney

A goal every 0.41 games. 
5 x Premier League

1 x FA Cup

3 x League Cup

4 x Community Shield

1 x Champions League

1 x Europa League

1 x Club World Cup

3 x PFA team of the year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season

1 x FIFA World XI

 

Vardy

A goal every 0.47 games. 
1 x Premier League

1 x FA Cup

2 x Championships

1 x Community Shield

1 x Premier League Player of the Season
2 x PFA team of the year

 

Shearer

A goal every 0.47 games. 
1 x Premier League

3rd Place in Ballon Dor

4 x PFA team of the year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season

 

Kane

A goal every 0.66 games. 

6 x PFA team of the year

 

Owen

A goal every 0.45 games. 

1 x Premier League
1 x FA Cup

3 x League Cup

2 x Community Shield

1 x UEFA Cup

1 x UEFA Super Cup

1 x Ballon Dor

1 x World Player of the Year

1 x Premier League Player of the Season
1 x Premier League Team of the Season

 

 

 

[sdb]

I'm delighted this has come up because I was debating top 10 PL strikers with some mates on Friday. 

 

They were just about in agreement that Vardy was top 10 but when it got to Drogba we disagreed. I think as a "PL striker" Vardy edges it. They disagreed. Thoughts?? I appreciate it's a close one!!

 

Rooney was better than Vardy. Kane...debatable. Won nothing and went to Germany. Another close call.

 

Anyway...Vardy or Drogba?

[SouthStandUpperTier]

1 hour ago, foxfanazer said:

This is what elevates him above Kane imo. Kane's a flat track bullying stat padder and not a team player

Kane's record in big games can certainly be questioned. But he is most definitely a team player. You don't lead the PL in assists, like he did one season, or pick a pass like he did for Bellingham last week, without being a team player.

[StanSP]

7 minutes ago, sdb said:

I'm delighted this has come up because I was debating top 10 PL strikers with some mates on Friday. 

 

They were just about in agreement that Vardy was top 10 but when it got to Drogba we disagreed. I think as a "PL striker" Vardy edges it. They disagreed. Thoughts?? I appreciate it's a close one!!

 

Rooney was better than Vardy. Kane...debatable. Won nothing and went to Germany. Another close call.

 

Anyway...Vardy or Drogba?

Vardy. 

[Jon the Hat]

It's really hard to compare players like Rooney and Owen who were playing at the highest level at 16/17 with Vardy and to an extent Kane who were in their 20s before they earned their shot at the top.  No one it seems cam play at that level for more than 10-12 years, whether they start young or finish old.  What we can say is bloody hell there is some quality there, and it's unbelievable to have Vardy with 10 years at Leicester in the conversation.  Shearer is the only comparable player in that he did brilliantly without ever signing for one of the biggest clubs.  

[foxfanazer]

19 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Kane's record in big games can certainly be questioned. But he is most definitely a team player. You don't lead the PL in assists, like he did one season, or pick a pass like he did for Bellingham last week, without being a team player.

Yeah that's probably unfair of me. Definitely a stat padder though

[Ted Maul]

I don't think Vardy is a better player than Kane to be honest... though his story and trophy cabinet mean that he's got a better legacy.

 

Rooney was a monster in his prime and won it all, Manchester United's all-time record goalscorer, etc. He went into decline early but comparisons with him are daft.

Edited 24 November 2024 by Ted Maul

[Hamilton Fox]

2 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

I don't think Vardy is a better player than Kane to be honest... though his story and trophy cabinet mean that he's got a better legacy.

 

Rooney was a monster in his prime and won it all, Manchester United's all-time record goalscorer, etc. He went into decline early but comparisons with him are daft.

Went into decline early is all relative because he started early, he pretty much started top level football 10 years earlier age wise than Vardy