MANFACE Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 I just wasn't looking forward to any of the games with Cooper in charge. I didn't even switch on the TV to watch any of the games, it was that bad. It was the right decision to do it now, and not in March or later.
dmayne7 Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Actually stunned by this (the fact they've pulled the plug). Just makes the appointment utterly bizarre and they've yet again done it straight after an international break . Still, so many decent options out there for where we're at, fingers crossed we get somebody decent
pazzerfox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 6 minutes ago, Pliskin said: Cop out answer. You said we’ve got the worse side in the league? And yet there’s teams below us…… so Southampton have a better squad than us? It's not a cop out answer. We've played 12 games! I said we've got the worst squad in the league. Look at who we signed. Squad players from Palace and Fulham, a youngster who can't get in Brightons team, a young. raw winger, a midfielder who hardly got a kick for Spurs and a striker who is surplus to requirements at a relegation rival. Ourselves and Southampton will be a battle for second bottom, in my opinion. 2
HankMarvin Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Odds Next Leicester Manager Odds Implied Probability Ruud van Nistelrooy 6/4 40% David Moyes 4/1 20% Graham Potter 5/1 16.7% Mark Robins 14/1 6.7% Carlos Corberan 20/1 4/8%
Popular Post Corky Posted 24 November 2024 Popular Post Posted 24 November 2024 Ipswich are showing why Cooper had to go. We all know the squad is limited, and it sounds basic, but if you don't have a go there is no point. You barely attack, even when losing, and you should give up. 16 1
TrentFox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 1 minute ago, dmayne7 said: Actually stunned by this (the fact they've pulled the plug). Just makes the appointment utterly bizarre and they've yet again done it straight after an international break . Still, so many decent options out there for where we're at, fingers crossed we get somebody decent I’m no expert on our under-the-bonnet stuff, but I’d suspect they spoke to our next manager during the international break and everyone was happy to wait until after the Chelsea game? Why would a new manager want to be under pressure after one very difficult fixture? Who knows. 1
drew Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 I've been to one home game all season through recovery from an operation and general malaise towards the club, might start going again now. A nonsensical appointment from the outset, terrible idea and to be honest, unfair on Cooper who seems like a genuine guy, just out of his depth. 4
Jattdogg Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Went to Walmart, got home sat down to eat lunch and saw messages from my brother saying he has been sacked. Niceeee
HankMarvin Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Steve Cooper to Leicester was the managerial appointment that should never have happened so it is no surprise his tenure has ended after only 15 matches. There is fault on both sides. Though keen to return to the dugout after six months away from the game, Cooper was giving himself no margin of error by moving to Leicester. Sure enough, he has lasted barely five months, and it feels grimly appropriate that his final game should come against Enzo Maresca, who left Leicester for Chelsealast June. Maresca’s men won 2-1 at the King Power Stadium on Saturday on another day of struggle for Cooper. A former manager of Nottingham Forest was always going to be treated with suspicion by fans of their East Midlands rivals, especially one who was loved as much as Cooper was at the City Ground. Because Maresca, rather than Cooper, had led Leicester to promotion before leaving for Chelsea, Cooper could not count on any residual goodwill from players or supporters when times were tough. Both the Leicester squad and the fanbase are notoriously difficult to impress. Not even Brendan Rodgers, who led Leicester to two trophies and consecutive fifth-placed finishes, was loved by supporters, even before his reign fell apart in its final season. In that respect, Cooper was behind the eight ball from the moment he signed. Cooper has had to coach a squad built largely for Maresca, whose departure caught everyone by surprise, and has had to operate in the Premier Leaguerather than the Championship. After working for such an unforgiving boss in Evangelos Marinakis, perhaps Cooper thought life would be much easier at Leicester. He was wrong. The football structure at the King Power Stadium, driven by an all-powerful director of football in Jon Rudkin, caused moments of frustration for both Maresca and Rodgers, two of Leicester’s best coaches of modern times. Leicester have parted company with their manager Steve Cooper after just 15 matches Cooper has been in charge at the Foxes since August and has won four of the games he's been in charge of A former manager of Nottingham Forest was always going to be treated with suspicion by fans of their East Midlands rivals, especially one who was loved as much as Cooper A shrewder operation would never have appointed Cooper, for precisely the reasons the Welshman ought to have thought twice before accepting the role. Irritated by Graham Potter’s unwillingness to commit to the job and reluctant to pay the £4million release clause for West Brom coach Carlos Corberan, Leicester moved for Cooper after weeks of discussions. Leicester tried to appoint Potter in 2023 and last summer. Will it be third time lucky? Ruud van Nistelrooy also pushed for the job last summer and he left Manchester United with reputation improved. There were problems for the Cooper regime from the off. Coaches and players were unimpressed with the quality of hotels during the pre-season tour of Germany, with the standard of air-conditioning and poor WiFi connection among the complaints. Matters were little better in other areas, too: Cooper needed a centre-forward and though deals were lined up for Panathinaikos striker Fotis Ioannidis and Adam Hlozek of Bayer Leverkusen, Ioannidis stayed put and Hlozek moved to Hoffenheim instead. With Patson Daka injured until Saturday’s game, Jamie Vardy – who turns 38 in January – was the only fit forward Cooper trusted. No analysis of Leicester is complete without discussion of their greatest player. Still at the training ground for 8.30am, ultra-dedicated to his recovery and continuing to swear by his pre-match routine of cheese omelettes, espresso and Red Bull. If, in football speak, Vardy is ‘having’ a Leicester manager, life for the man in the dugout is considerably easier than when he is not. In his 12-year Foxes career, Vardy has seen eight full-time managers come and go and his legacy in that period is unmatched. Cooper knew this and tried hard to bring Vardy onside. After Vardy had scored in the 1-1 draw with Tottenham on August 19, Cooper claimed he had been ready to rule the skipper out due to injury, only for Vardy to insist he would play through the pain barrier. In interviews that night, Cooper said repeatedly Vardy was ‘the main man here’. Vardy has never questioned Cooper publicly and his performances in a struggling side - four goals in 11 games – brook little argument. The general feeling, though, is that many of the squad were never sold. While plenty may have liked Cooper personally, they were unconvinced by his tactics and training methods, feeling sessions were too long and that plans lacked the clarity of Maresca’s. It was poetic that Cooper's last game at the Foxes came against Enzo Maresca's Chelsea There were problems for the Cooper regime from the off including coaches and players being left unimpressed by hotels during a pre-season tour of Germany Ruud van Nistelrooy had pushed for the Leicester job before Cooper had taken over at the club Cooper had also been fiercly critical of referees, something that was par for the course at Nottingham Forest Read More Steve Cooper is SACKED as Leicester City manager after defeat by Chelsea Leicester have scored in every game but one but at the back they have been chaotic, facing 210 shots in 12 league games, a significant number of which were from dangerous positions. Cooper’s inability to make them more durable helped cook his goose. Cooper was fiercely critical of referees and while that was par for the course at Forest, who are owned by the volatile Evangelos Marinakis, such matters are approached differently at Leicester. This is believed to have caused some discomfort behind the scenes. Jannik Vestergaard was such a key man under Maresca that he was rewarded with a new three-year deal in June, not long before Cooper was appointed. After starting the season under Cooper, the Dane has largely been moved to the margins. Read into that what you will. When Cooper has time to reflect, he will surely accept that this was a job he needed to swerve. He remains a fine coach and he will be back. If Forest are now thriving in the top half of the table, Cooper deserves a great deal of credit. He led them to promotion in 2022 after taking charge when they were bottom of the Championship eight months earlier and kept them up under hugely difficult circumstances the following year. His work with Swansea and England’s age-group sides also mean Cooper will be courted again by upwardly-mobile clubs again. Similarly, Leicester’s squad need to take a look in the mirror. They may never have bought into Cooper’s methods but if they thought they could play Guardiola-lite football in the Premier League as they did in the Championship, they are foolish. Just look at Burnley, who tried to do the same under Vincent Kompany and are now back in the second tier. Cooper made mistakes aplenty but it is also time for certain players to leave their egos at the door if they do not want to follow the same path. 4
KP Fox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 36 minutes ago, RumbleFox said: Desperate as 17 year old me was if we go BACK in for Potter. We can't ask Potter again because he's put a restraining order on the club. 3
HankMarvin Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 1 minute ago, HankMarvin said: There were problems for the Cooper regime from the off. Coaches and players were unimpressed with the quality of hotels during the pre-season tour of Germany, with the standard of air-conditioning and poor WiFi connection among the complaints Poor things 1
Popular Post jayfox26 Posted 24 November 2024 Popular Post Posted 24 November 2024 The timing would suggest we've got someone lined up but that would suggest our board have a plan and are competent and we all know thats not the case 2 3
CosbehFox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Would just like to point out that the article there describes Rudkin as all powerful. Worth remembering for those whom think he’s role is minor 3
Chelmofox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 6 minutes ago, TrentFox said: I’m no expert on our under-the-bonnet stuff, but I’d suspect they spoke to our next manager during the international break and everyone was happy to wait until after the Chelsea game? Why would a new manager want to be under pressure after one very difficult fixture? Who knows. Especially if the appointment is ex Chelsea? 1
KP Fox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 10 minutes ago, dmayne7 said: Actually stunned by this (the fact they've pulled the plug). Just makes the appointment utterly bizarre and they've yet again done it straight after an international break . Still, so many decent options out there for where we're at, fingers crossed we get somebody decent No one else wanted to join us!
Big Blue Maff Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 How many of us believe we can get 30 points from the remaining 27 games ?? Usually takes around 40 points to stay up !!
Popular Post Unabomber Posted 24 November 2024 Popular Post Posted 24 November 2024 6 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Steve Cooper to Leicester was the managerial appointment that should never have happened so it is no surprise his tenure has ended after only 15 matches. There is fault on both sides. Though keen to return to the dugout after six months away from the game, Cooper was giving himself no margin of error by moving to Leicester. Sure enough, he has lasted barely five months, and it feels grimly appropriate that his final game should come against Enzo Maresca, who left Leicester for Chelsealast June. Maresca’s men won 2-1 at the King Power Stadium on Saturday on another day of struggle for Cooper. A former manager of Nottingham Forest was always going to be treated with suspicion by fans of their East Midlands rivals, especially one who was loved as much as Cooper was at the City Ground. Because Maresca, rather than Cooper, had led Leicester to promotion before leaving for Chelsea, Cooper could not count on any residual goodwill from players or supporters when times were tough. Both the Leicester squad and the fanbase are notoriously difficult to impress. Not even Brendan Rodgers, who led Leicester to two trophies and consecutive fifth-placed finishes, was loved by supporters, even before his reign fell apart in its final season. In that respect, Cooper was behind the eight ball from the moment he signed. Cooper has had to coach a squad built largely for Maresca, whose departure caught everyone by surprise, and has had to operate in the Premier Leaguerather than the Championship. After working for such an unforgiving boss in Evangelos Marinakis, perhaps Cooper thought life would be much easier at Leicester. He was wrong. The football structure at the King Power Stadium, driven by an all-powerful director of football in Jon Rudkin, caused moments of frustration for both Maresca and Rodgers, two of Leicester’s best coaches of modern times. Leicester have parted company with their manager Steve Cooper after just 15 matches Cooper has been in charge at the Foxes since August and has won four of the games he's been in charge of A former manager of Nottingham Forest was always going to be treated with suspicion by fans of their East Midlands rivals, especially one who was loved as much as Cooper A shrewder operation would never have appointed Cooper, for precisely the reasons the Welshman ought to have thought twice before accepting the role. Irritated by Graham Potter’s unwillingness to commit to the job and reluctant to pay the £4million release clause for West Brom coach Carlos Corberan, Leicester moved for Cooper after weeks of discussions. Leicester tried to appoint Potter in 2023 and last summer. Will it be third time lucky? Ruud van Nistelrooy also pushed for the job last summer and he left Manchester United with reputation improved. There were problems for the Cooper regime from the off. Coaches and players were unimpressed with the quality of hotels during the pre-season tour of Germany, with the standard of air-conditioning and poor WiFi connection among the complaints. Matters were little better in other areas, too: Cooper needed a centre-forward and though deals were lined up for Panathinaikos striker Fotis Ioannidis and Adam Hlozek of Bayer Leverkusen, Ioannidis stayed put and Hlozek moved to Hoffenheim instead. With Patson Daka injured until Saturday’s game, Jamie Vardy – who turns 38 in January – was the only fit forward Cooper trusted. No analysis of Leicester is complete without discussion of their greatest player. Still at the training ground for 8.30am, ultra-dedicated to his recovery and continuing to swear by his pre-match routine of cheese omelettes, espresso and Red Bull. If, in football speak, Vardy is ‘having’ a Leicester manager, life for the man in the dugout is considerably easier than when he is not. In his 12-year Foxes career, Vardy has seen eight full-time managers come and go and his legacy in that period is unmatched. Cooper knew this and tried hard to bring Vardy onside. After Vardy had scored in the 1-1 draw with Tottenham on August 19, Cooper claimed he had been ready to rule the skipper out due to injury, only for Vardy to insist he would play through the pain barrier. In interviews that night, Cooper said repeatedly Vardy was ‘the main man here’. Vardy has never questioned Cooper publicly and his performances in a struggling side - four goals in 11 games – brook little argument. The general feeling, though, is that many of the squad were never sold. While plenty may have liked Cooper personally, they were unconvinced by his tactics and training methods, feeling sessions were too long and that plans lacked the clarity of Maresca’s. It was poetic that Cooper's last game at the Foxes came against Enzo Maresca's Chelsea There were problems for the Cooper regime from the off including coaches and players being left unimpressed by hotels during a pre-season tour of Germany Ruud van Nistelrooy had pushed for the Leicester job before Cooper had taken over at the club Cooper had also been fiercly critical of referees, something that was par for the course at Nottingham Forest Read More Steve Cooper is SACKED as Leicester City manager after defeat by Chelsea Leicester have scored in every game but one but at the back they have been chaotic, facing 210 shots in 12 league games, a significant number of which were from dangerous positions. Cooper’s inability to make them more durable helped cook his goose. Cooper was fiercely critical of referees and while that was par for the course at Forest, who are owned by the volatile Evangelos Marinakis, such matters are approached differently at Leicester. This is believed to have caused some discomfort behind the scenes. Jannik Vestergaard was such a key man under Maresca that he was rewarded with a new three-year deal in June, not long before Cooper was appointed. After starting the season under Cooper, the Dane has largely been moved to the margins. Read into that what you will. When Cooper has time to reflect, he will surely accept that this was a job he needed to swerve. He remains a fine coach and he will be back. If Forest are now thriving in the top half of the table, Cooper deserves a great deal of credit. He led them to promotion in 2022 after taking charge when they were bottom of the Championship eight months earlier and kept them up under hugely difficult circumstances the following year. His work with Swansea and England’s age-group sides also mean Cooper will be courted again by upwardly-mobile clubs again. Similarly, Leicester’s squad need to take a look in the mirror. They may never have bought into Cooper’s methods but if they thought they could play Guardiola-lite football in the Premier League as they did in the Championship, they are foolish. Just look at Burnley, who tried to do the same under Vincent Kompany and are now back in the second tier. Cooper made mistakes aplenty but it is also time for certain players to leave their egos at the door if they do not want to follow the same path. Nice and easy to read 1 8
FOXSE Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Just now, Big Blue Maff said: How many of us believe we can get 30 points from the remaining 27 games ?? Usually takes around 40 points to stay up !! When was the last time it took 40 points to stay up?
Fear Of The Fox Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 Just now, Unabomber said: Nice and easy to read Thanks for clarifying. I thought I was having a stroke. 1
PhillippaT Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 1 minute ago, Unabomber said: Nice and easy to read The grey on grey really seals it, dunnit? 1
Arkie Bennett Posted 24 November 2024 Posted 24 November 2024 17 minutes ago, UniFox21 said: Had to make it about him, just a little before giving any useful info Did the BBC have a replacement lined up when Stringer got the boot?
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