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And the ninety fourth thousandth time, you,would trust the comedians who brought us Cooper and then seemingly traded down for Ruud, to select the next manager?

I realise people severely dislike Ruud for his poor record, but come on, there is an Everest sized elephant in this particular room.

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4 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

And the ninety fourth thousandth time, you,would trust the comedians who brought us Cooper and then seemingly traded down for Ruud, to select the next manager?

I realise people severely dislike Ruud for his poor record, but come on, there is an Everest sized elephant in this particular room.

Its not an elephant in the room.  Everybody talks about it and acknowledges the people in charge of recruitment are dogshit but people keep banging on as if the disgruntlement with the powers that be (in particular Rudkin) are a recent thing.

 

Christ at the victory parade at the end of last season Vards openly had a dig at Rudders.  Its not like the club are unaware.

 

They’re not going anywhere.  Whilst we all

share and acknowledge that they don’t know what they’re doing, we know that RVN can’t stay so all we can do is hope they roll the dice and come up yahtzee.

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1 minute ago, Realist Guy In The Room said:

Its not an elephant in the room.  Everybody talks about it and acknowledges the people in charge of recruitment are dogshit but people keep banging on as if the disgruntlement with the powers that be (in particular Rudkin) are a recent thing.

 

Christ at the victory parade at the end of last season Vards openly had a dig at Rudders.  Its not like the club are unaware.

 

They’re not going anywhere.  Whilst we all

share and acknowledge that they don’t know what they’re doing, we know that RVN can’t stay so all we can do is hope they roll the dice and come up yahtzee.

I get it, maybe I just feel the club does not deserve better than Ruud, even if the fans do..

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According to Rob Tanner in the Athletic this morning, RVN wants the job.  Perhaps the board have been waiting to see how we play against Southampton and Ipswich as that's the litmus test for how we'll do next season.

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53 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

I’d keep him and here are my reasons:

1. If you look at our squad, we were destined to go down from the start. Bringing in Edouard, Golding, Reid, Skipp are the reason we didn’t stay up. We just couldn’t compete whoever the manager was.

2. He will have to have a pay off to go, which eats into our budget for next season. Keep him and we have more money to spend on players.

3. Handled himself well in times of adversity, seems pretty strong and faced into the press.

4. Quite happy to try and get a better handle on discipline, the Winjs and Vest situations show this

I do understand others points though, it’s a borderline situation, but I think we have bigger issues like the structure above to look at and recruitment rather than the manager. 
 

Bringing in someone new doesn’t solve our issues, but it does cost us player budget. 

I agree. His hands were tied from the beginning. 

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6 minutes ago, Kinowe Soorie said:

I agree. His hands were tied from the beginning. 

 

True, his hands were tied, but given some of his team selections maybe its a blessing that he wasn't also responsible for recruitment. 

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9 minutes ago, Nickaj said:

 

True, his hands were tied, but given some of his team selections maybe its a blessing that he wasn't also responsible for recruitment. 

I’m not sticking up for him here, he’s been woeful. Though I do think some of the selections post January have been making a point due to lack of recruitment. Not sayings he’s right to do that just get that feeling.

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1 hour ago, Rob1742 said:

I’d keep him and here are my reasons:

1. If you look at our squad, we were destined to go down from the start. Bringing in Edouard, Golding, Reid, Skipp are the reason we didn’t stay up. We just couldn’t compete whoever the manager was.

2. He will have to have a pay off to go, which eats into our budget for next season. Keep him and we have more money to spend on players.

3. Handled himself well in times of adversity, seems pretty strong and faced into the press.

4. Quite happy to try and get a better handle on discipline, the Winjs and Vest situations show this

I do understand others points though, it’s a borderline situation, but I think we have bigger issues like the structure above to look at and recruitment rather than the manager. 
 

Bringing in someone new doesn’t solve our issues, but it does cost us player budget. 

Are you mental? He talks a good game, says some of the right stuff, but his actions do not match his words. Statistically the worst manager we’ve ever had. Get rid asap. He’s a terrible manager, completely clueless.

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The facts are:

 

-the squad we have is one of the worst in the prem.

 

-a defence that contains mainly the players we go relegated with.

 

-injuries to key players (ndidi out for a good portion, ricardo barely having a leg left, fatawu injury)

 

-leading the line with a 38 year old striker as the recruitment was wank

 

yes, blame Cooper, Ruud whatever you want to do. But the actual problem is above the manager and without changes I fear we’ll go in this same circle of up and down like a yo-yo.
 

Perhaps commitment to a manager who’s already aware of the squads short comings, was rated highly before his current spell with us here and has a foot in the door with many of our young prospects who’ll more than likely be needed next season could be a good idea.

 

or there’s Dyche, Russell Martin etc etc and we start the cycle again. I actually don’t care or mind anymore, the damage was truly done a few seasons ago.

 

as someone else has put it, I’m not sure we deserve anyone else. I’ve seen stupid comments saying Fabregas or Rosenior! Honestly get real. 
 

the other elephant in the room is can we actually afford to sack him? 
could Brian Murphy take over or Andy king? I think we’re ****ed regardless 

 

 

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1 hour ago, MaidstoneFox said:

According to Rob Tanner in the Athletic this morning, RVN wants the job.  Perhaps the board have been waiting to see how we play against Southampton and Ipswich as that's the litmus test for how we'll do next season.

Makes no sense, 

he isn’t good enough for the top flight clearly. So why not give a manager the time and transfers to develop a playing style in the Championship and let him use that confidence as a spring board if we got promoted. 


If we were going to get rid of him, it’s best to do it on the back of a relegation and pitiful record.

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I'm going to get pelters for this, but if the replacement is Dyche or Martin, then I would actually rather he was part of the rebuild on the assumption he gets his own team in place. I would rather we were looking in the Rosenior or Corberan mould (both aren't going to happen now) and i dont think our management will look overseas. Might reserve total judgment on that after the Ipswich game!  I think we need an x year plan now to be competitive in the PL and the likes of Winks / Ndidi just dont cut it for us now.

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1 hour ago, MaidstoneFox said:

According to Rob Tanner in the Athletic this morning, RVN wants the job.  Perhaps the board have been waiting to see how we play against Southampton and Ipswich as that's the litmus test for how we'll do next season.

What a load of rubbish from Tanner he's already got the job and has proven he's not up to it. 

Can't motivate players, falls out with players, crap team selections, crap tactics i could go on.

What has he done to make anyone want him in charge next season absolutely nothing get rid asap and start the rebuild now.

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Just seen Ralph Hassenhuttl has been sacked by Wolfsburg. It would be the most Leicester City thing possible to get half of the defence and then the manager of the team that we beat 9-0.

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2 hours ago, Rob1742 said:

I’d keep him and here are my reasons:

1. If you look at our squad, we were destined to go down from the start. Bringing in Edouard, Golding, Reid, Skipp are the reason we didn’t stay up. We just couldn’t compete whoever the manager was.

2. He will have to have a pay off to go, which eats into our budget for next season. Keep him and we have more money to spend on players.

3. Handled himself well in times of adversity, seems pretty strong and faced into the press.

4. Quite happy to try and get a better handle on discipline, the Winjs and Vest situations show this

I do understand others points though, it’s a borderline situation, but I think we have bigger issues like the structure above to look at and recruitment rather than the manager. 
 

Bringing in someone new doesn’t solve our issues, but it does cost us player budget. 

- Id rather we spent our whole budget on sacking and getting a new manager then keeping the worst manager in Premier league history. Amazing how even Cooper managed to score the occasional goal but this dipstick cant. Not to mention hes a completley unlikeable cvnt who has zero relationship with the fans. Send him to the job centre where he belongs and start again from scratch.

 

Deffo a case of Stockholm syndrome with some of our fans atm who think that is acceptable to stay in a job. I dont care how bad some of the squad were. No one goes 9 home games without scoring a goal as his record breaking run proves

 

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Would Vitor Pereira have done a better job?  Yes! but not like he did, Wolves were a better team.   Sticking with cooper would have been better, but we all guilty for that move  

Personally, I think we need a fresh start Rudd has no patience banked he loses a few games, and it will be a negative hate fest, but ill not surprised if we keep him, I think the owners will look at the Southampton and Ipswich games as a barometer. And if he does well then, we are going to find # no excuses

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1 hour ago, Chelmofox said:

I'm going to get pelters for this, but if the replacement is Dyche or Martin, then I would actually rather he was part of the rebuild on the assumption he gets his own team in place. I would rather we were looking in the Rosenior or Corberan mould (both aren't going to happen now) and i dont think our management will look overseas. Might reserve total judgment on that after the Ipswich game!  I think we need an x year plan now to be competitive in the PL and the likes of Winks / Ndidi just dont cut it for us now.

My issue with retaining RVN is - accepting that he hasn't had his own backroom staff from Day 1 + didn't get supported in January - he hasn't been able to positively impact the performance of the team, its organisation / defensive structure, he has rigidly stuck with underperforming players rather than giving youngsters an opportunity.  

 

So I just don't see that he has learnt lessons or is implementing (even small) improvements which gives me encouragement for an upturn in results.

 

Listening to the WYS podcast today Rob Tanner hinted that RVN may stick around, maybe because of finances and PSR impacts of getting rid of 2x managers in a financial period, maybe because Top and Rudders think we need stability.  I think the decision to stick would be very risky, given the extended run of poor results, a large percentage of fans aren't having him and I think that gets worse if he fails to hit the ground running next season and the managerial options then maybe even worse. 

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Reading people's posts today it seems that RVN will most likely 'stick around' next season and see what happens. 

WTF 😒 it really seems that he is half hearted in managing Leicester...not here or there in his mind. Seems like the board want to give him a chance next season and his attitude seems 'fair enough ' let's see how it goes.

The balls in his court, if they sack him he gets a payoff in millions...he doesn't care as he's not a manager in demand. It seems he'll just stick around to see if it works and he can give it ago in championship.

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One thing I will say in RVN favour, is that he’s called out players and has identified issues within the club and playing squad, about their fitness. RVN knows what success looks like and he ain’t seeing it here and he needs to get rid of the deadwood and players with the wrong attitude and look to build on that!

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