The media/other fans perception of LCFC vs the perception of most our fanbase

[jayfox26]

It's something that has been bugging me for a while and there are many times when the media and other fans have a completely different view on our club than we do.

 

Why is this? 

Do other fans not know enough about our club to actually comment?

Do most in the media spend so much time focusing on the "big" clubs that they don't actually have much knowledge on our club? 

 

Few examples. 

 

Cooper Sacking. Most of the fan base was agreed that he wasn't the right person and he had to go. Media and other fans (mainly forest) saying it was wrong, and he was the best we could hope for (which brings another argument about the "Little leicester" perception).

 

Majority of our fans actively wanting change at boardroom level.

Media and other fans "your board has brought great success, be careful what you wish for" etc etc. 

 

Even going back to sacking Rodgers. Majority of our fanbase could see he'd lost his way and should have gone way before he did, but the media and other fans "he won you the fa Cup and got you top 4" etc etc. 

 

There are many many other occasions like these and just wondered others thoughts. 

 

Are we delusional? 

Do we expect too much?  

Are we just "little leicester" that should get back in their box? 

 

Or are we right to want the best for our club and expect to be and remain an established premier league club with clear direction and leadership?.

[Fox92]

Just now, jayfox26 said:

 

 

Majority of our fans actively wanting change at boardroom level.

Media and other fans "your board has brought great success, be careful what you wish for" etc etc. 

 

A lot of our fans says "be careful what you wish for" so I don't think it's just a media/other fans thing.

[jayfox26]

1 minute ago, Fox92 said:

A lot of our fans says "be careful what you wish for" so I don't think it's just a media/other fans thing.

Which is why I said majority of our fans, or what feels like a majority. I understand we have (what feels like) a minority of our fans that are just "happy to be here" types and would clap if we lost at home to forest 10-0, but I'm talking about the general consensus of our fan base on most matters LCFC..

[CosbehFox]

People by nature aren't critical thinkers. Therefore in an areas where they have little knowledge they play the trope of the majority. 

 

The argument against us translates as no-one club of medium size should ever look for sustained success. There's this hierarchy in existence how English clubs are viewed. The same applies to how Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are viewed as clubs what don't belong in the top flight over the sleeping giants of Leeds or Sheffield Wednesday for example. 

 

It reaches back into a British psyche that ambition isn't attractive and derided or tagged as arrogance. There's a bizarre feeling amongst some Leicester fans that we will always fall back to a mean - it doesn't have to be like that. 

Edited 20 January by CosbehFox

[StanSP]

A lot of fans don't know the intricacies of what's gone on between Vichai's passing and the predicament we're in. They don't know the struggles outside of what they see on the pitch and the FA Cup win. 

 

They won't know about or can't relate to what incompetencies are shown above manager level. 

 

No matter what argument or debating point or even evidence is put to them, they'll always come back with 'at least you had 2016!!'.

Well, yeah, we did. But now it's gone to shit hasn't it! 

 

We're not delusional to expect the very least from the hierarchy and owners to do their jobs properly or take that responsibility and accountability when things go wrong. We can't have them lapping it up and showing their faces parading trophies on the pitch that players and staff helped win, and then have them rejecting media interviews left, right and centre and hiding and cowering away when shit hits the fan. It's the ultimate sign of cowardice and ignorance to behave like that. 

[Lewis's Junior]

Anecdotally I see perceptions that we're continually after managers being sacked (yes, Cooper, but also dissatisfaction with Maresca last season). And that we boo our own players, e.g. Ward. 

As mentioned by others, fans are drawing from limited experiences like highlights and when we play at their ground. Personally I don't think we are entitled - in fact most of our fan base has been not entitled enough to force the change we needed to kick on.

Also the poverty chanting, our clappers and goal music. All of which is shite and needs to be binned.

[aklaxon]

I think it comes back to the lack of PR and Communications at our club.

 

Us fans feel disenfranchised by our club  - with strange "business" decisions and lack of accountability. That's bad PR.

 

But other clubs and the media don't know what's going on at Leicester, and don't have anything to report. That's bad PR.

 

To be a good PR & Communications director you have to build relationships in the industry. We don't have a good director, so no one in the industry knows what's going on.

[Spudulike]

23 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

People by nature aren't critical thinkers. Therefore in an areas where they have little knowledge they play the trope of the majority. 

 

The argument against us translates as no-one club of medium size should ever look for sustained success. There's this hierarchy in existence how English clubs are viewed. The same applies to how Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are viewed as clubs what don't belong in the top flight over the sleeping giants of Leeds or Sheffield Wednesday for example. 

 

It reaches back into a British psyche that ambition isn't attractive and derided or tagged as arrogance. There's a bizarre feeling amongst some Leicester fans that we will always fall back to a mean - it doesn't have to be like that. 

That is exactly it. And that hierarchy was established during the last century, pre-Premier League, that certain club's gained their status by, in some cases, minimal success ie. Sunderland is seen as 'big' due to an FA Cup win in 1973 and a manager in a raincoat and trilby. 

[lcfc_forever]

I think it's how quickly things have changed - if it had been a slower fall, then I think even our fans will have accepted it more.

 

To go from 5th with a high standard of recruitment to PL strugglers with no recruitment strategy within a few seasons is unacceptable. Surely opposition fans and the media can understand that? 

[CosbehFox]

3 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

That is exactly it. And that hierarchy was established during the last century, pre-Premier League, that certain club's gained their status by, in some cases, minimal success ie. Sunderland is seen as 'big' due to an FA Cup win in 1973 and a manager in a raincoat and trilby. 

There’s a generation who somehow consider Bolton and Wigan as some of kind champagne marker of better times in the 2000s

[KFS]

If you need an answer to this, consider why Newcastle ‘deserved’ their takeover versus us being jeered by Man City for sacking a bloke who by all accounts was losing his mind and taking us down after an incredible feat

 

It’s all about Sky Sports and the online fan. They enjoyed us for five minutes and wanted us back in our box because we were harmful to them

[Stadt]

If we expanded the ground to 40k plus in time perceptions would have changed. Ground size and attendance are one of the main drivers of club size.

 

This is really difficult thing to articulate and I've been struggling to write it down. Other fans just don't have the same attachment or investment, they can see the highpoint and think 'that's great, wow success, I wish my club had that' and at the nadir they're only at the same level as now anyway. It's a zero cost option to wish they were in our shoes.

 

Also what other fans don't get is our resources are (or were) significantly higher than the tranche of comparable clubs (Sheffield clubs, Derby, Southampton). Going down with the 7th or 8th highest wage bill isn't as scandalous as it is for the more esteemed clubs with the bigger grounds.

 

If we had 42k in the ground every week, consciously or subconsciously other fans and the media think, that's a lot of fans in a way they don't with 32k. There's also a notion that northern clubs are just proper in a way midlands and southern clubs aren't too.

[The_77]

1 hour ago, jayfox26 said:

It's something that has been bugging me for a while and there are many times when the media and other fans have a completely different view on our club than we do.

 

Why is this? 

Do other fans not know enough about our club to actually comment?

Do most in the media spend so much time focusing on the "big" clubs that they don't actually have much knowledge on our club? 

 

Few examples. 

 

Cooper Sacking. Most of the fan base was agreed that he wasn't the right person and he had to go. Media and other fans (mainly forest) saying it was wrong, and he was the best we could hope for (which brings another argument about the "Little leicester" perception).

 

Majority of our fans actively wanting change at boardroom level.

Media and other fans "your board has brought great success, be careful what you wish for" etc etc. 

 

Even going back to sacking Rodgers. Majority of our fanbase could see he'd lost his way and should have gone way before he did, but the media and other fans "he won you the fa Cup and got you top 4" etc etc. 

 

There are many many other occasions like these and just wondered others thoughts. 

 

Are we delusional? 

Do we expect too much?  

Are we just "little leicester" that should get back in their box? 

 

Or are we right to want the best for our club and expect to be and remain an established premier league club with clear direction and leadership?.

The average fan doesn’t watch much football from other clubs and doesn’t interact with supporters of other clubs in their day-to-day lives. 
 

The average media personality doesn’t watch much football from other clubs and doesn’t interact with supporters from other clubs on a daily basis. 

 

[Foxdiamond]

26 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

That is exactly it. And that hierarchy was established during the last century, pre-Premier League, that certain club's gained their status by, in some cases, minimal success ie. Sunderland is seen as 'big' due to an FA Cup win in 1973 and a manager in a raincoat and trilby. 

Tend to agree. Sunderland were known as The Bank Of England club in the 1950s. Not so long ago not many could imagine Brighton or Bournemouth doing well and Brentford's best days were the 1930s. Imagine if we had won the FA Cup in 1961, 63 and 69 we would have been viewed differently. A lot of outsiders are just ignorant of the history or current dealings of a club other than their own. I would be loath to tell how a Sheffield Wednesday or Norwich fan etc should feel about their status.

[dmayne7]

I've recently accepted that it's utterly pointless to comment on other clubs when it comes to managerial changes/ownership issues. You're not even going to scratch the surface from the outside.

 

Don't think anyone has got unrealistic expectations now. But even when that could have been levelled at us, we'd done all the hard work to break up the top 6 and then completely blew it. If the club had been run properly, we wouldn't be close to this position for at least 10 years and probably the most secure PL club outside of that 'top 6'.

[when_you're_smiling]

Of course a neutral view is going to be different to a fans. We’re biased.

That’s fine. Same as all fans of their clubs.

 

Not sure why anyone would worry about it.

[Gamble92]

The delusions of grandeur and shifting of mentality since title win accusations are so wrong. 

 

I don't know one Leicester fan that wouldn't be absolutely okay with being 15th, having decent recruitment or even just being a yo yo club with a ****ing plan and identity.

 

The way this narrative has been accepted about us in media annoys the **** out of me. One thing I won't accept is watching my team slide down the pyramid because of incompetent pricks sleepwalking us into it. Then being told we should just put up with it because we dared to challenge at the top for a bit. 

[Qwerty]

 Other team’s fans don’t know the details, they just have a superficial view of what’s going on.  And we’re the same with other clubs.  For example, I’ve heard lots of people saying Everton shouldn’t have sacked Dyche.  None of us can understand why some Arsenal fans want Arteta gone.  Spurs fans moan endlessly about their owners despite being a Big 6 team with loads of money.  
 

I think unless you watch the games week in week out, follow what’s going on, read the forums, keep up with the news, listen to the interviews etc of a team, you don’t really know what’s going on.  

[Gamble92]

Just now, Qwerty said:

 Other team’s fans don’t know the details, they just have a superficial view of what’s going on.  And we’re the same with other clubs.  For example, I’ve heard lots of people saying Everton shouldn’t have sacked Dyche.  None of us can understand why some Arsenal fans want Arteta gone.  Spurs fans moan endlessly about their owners despite being a Big 6 team with loads of money.  
 

I think unless you watch the games week in week out, follow what’s going on, read the forums, keep up with the news, listen to the interviews etc of a team, you don’t really know what’s going on.  

This is spot on.

 

It's painful watching someone with the brain of Darren Bent mumble over a sheet of stats put in front of him by Talksport and basing his opinion off that. 

 

Unless it's "big 6" they don't have any interest. 

[RonnieTodger]

Doesn’t bother me anymore. 
 

I remember the outside reaction to the players receiving both barrels at Fulham (that god awful defeat). 
 

We were literally going down with the 7th highest paid squad. It wasn’t a newly promoted side.

 

If they didn’t get it then, they never will. 

[Dan]

We're not really big enough for them to care. We should be doing absolutely nothing to fit in with their view of us though - the exact opposite. But we don't do this under this ownership.

[Larry_LCFC]

I still get so much grief from other fans about us sacking Ranieri after winning the league. General concensus is he was entitled to a free relegation. Love how they seem to hold us all personally accountable for the clubs actions 🤣

[Wasyls Pec Deck]

Who cares. Our business isn’t played out in the media like Man City, Man U, Chelsea etc like some sort of drama. As far as I’m concerned the only people who are qualified to comment are those of us who follow what’s going on daily or weekly or whatever. I got into an argument once with a mate who called us out for sacking Claudio, who was also taking us down. I think there’s this idea in the football world that we should be lucky for what we’ve achieved and be happy with anything that comes after it.

[Drew Peacock]

42 minutes ago, Qwerty said:

 Other team’s fans don’t know the details, they just have a superficial view of what’s going on.  And we’re the same with other clubs.  For example, I’ve heard lots of people saying Everton shouldn’t have sacked Dyche.  None of us can understand why some Arsenal fans want Arteta gone.  Spurs fans moan endlessly about their owners despite being a Big 6 team with loads of money.  
 

I think unless you watch the games week in week out, follow what’s going on, read the forums, keep up with the news, listen to the interviews etc of a team, you don’t really know what’s going on.  

Yes exactly. Same goes for pundits. Naturally they can’t watch every game or know every club in detail and they have a general opinion, but it’s sometimes way off.

A great example was Micah Richards talking about James Justin’s mistake against Villa, adding that he was having a generally good season so far. 

[smileandwave]

The drop off in quality of media coverage of Football is right up there on the (long) list of things not to love about the game in 2025. The stuff posted by reporters and pundits is usually inaccurate and often disrespectful to fans of any club. Unless you watch a club week in and week out you have no idea. I noted that the online commentary of the Fulham referred to Smith Rowe as the "Arsenal man" at the weekend when he scored against us. Fans are entitled to react how they like without the media or pundits validating if it is appropriate.