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Posted
25 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

He experimented for one game in a way that everyone seemed happy about before kick-off, then it backfired. One failed experiment does not make him s bad manager.

Absolutely not, but I guess the point I’m making is that under 21s international football is very different to the task we have at hand and the very limited experience he had in the men’s game really didn’t go very well at all.

 

Id probably prefer him to Dyche generally, but im not sure we can afford to take such a gamble at the minute.

Posted
1 hour ago, ClaphamFox said:

He experimented for one game in a way that everyone seemed happy about before kick-off, then it backfired. One failed experiment does not make him s bad manager.

This. At the time everyone wanted to see a line up that included Saka, Palmer, Bellingham, Rice and Foden in the same team - Carsley obliged and experimented and when it didn’t work had it held against him lol Reason 10456 of why the England job is a poisoned chalice.

Posted
52 minutes ago, Aleksz said:

This. At the time everyone wanted to see a line up that included Saka, Palmer, Bellingham, Rice and Foden in the same team - Carsley obliged and experimented and when it didn’t work had it held against him lol Reason 10456 of why the England job is a poisoned chalice.

Exactly.  Everyone will be wishing Southgates back in charge after the next World Cup

Posted
2 hours ago, oxford blue said:

I think you overestimate the forward planning and strategy of the whole management hierarchy...it has not been evident over recent seasons.

 

I cannot see Carsley even considering City; joining a club in turmoil with no league experience would not be a good career move. He has a record of doing well with talented players who are somewhat lacking at City.

Agree with most of this but given we've got a good crop of decent level youth prospects to work with surely that would help and we've got Seagrave too.

 

I'm take him over Dyche, Carrick and a few others.

Posted
3 hours ago, oxford blue said:

I think you overestimate the forward planning and strategy of the whole management hierarchy...it has not been evident over recent seasons.

 

I cannot see Carsley even considering City; joining a club in turmoil with no league experience would not be a good career move. He has a record of doing well with talented players who are somewhat lacking at City.

May be interested if it were a young squad project but I accept we are a basket case and it needs a man extremely assured or another lunatic 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Happy Fox said:

Danny Rohl , Chris Powell plus Andy King is an intelligent coaching team, and one that I feel will certainly with the right playing personnel : striker , CB and Ndidi replacement plus a KDH replacement aside I feel challenges for automatic promotion even with a hefty ish points deduction.

I think Bilal could be seen as the replacement for KDH, whether we can keep hold of him is another thing.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I think Bilal could be seen as the replacement for KDH, whether we can keep hold of him is another thing.

I agree and think Bilal has potentially a much higher ceiling than KDH. It would be great to keep him but get rid of half a dozen others!

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Posted
2 hours ago, Aleksz said:

This. At the time everyone wanted to see a line up that included Saka, Palmer, Bellingham, Rice and Foden in the same team - Carsley obliged and experimented and when it didn’t work had it held against him lol Reason 10456 of why the England job is a poisoned chalice.

True but no one asked for him to play Palmer deeper than Bellingham 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

Looking back now the dust has settled I think Ruud was told his replacement once we were relegated. I also think his replacement was dictating selection over the last few games and talking to our players. I think that's why the youngsters have signed up.

lol

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Product of 84 said:

 

 

Looking back now the dust has settled I think Ruud was told his replacement once we were relegated. I also think his replacement was dictating selection over the last few games and talking to our players. I think that's why the youngsters have signed up. 

 

 

 

Tempting to think that but I think it's  inevitable that the news would have leaked somehow, from somewhere, if that was the case.

To have decided upon - and appointed - a replacement so early in the process would require a degree of forward planning and organisation entirely beyond any of the decision makers at our club.

Surely you know that!!

Posted
1 hour ago, Product of 84 said:

Hopefully, the appointment will be made public tomorrow.

 

Looking back now the dust has settled I think Ruud was told his replacement once we were relegated. I also think his replacement was dictating selection over the last few games and talking to our players. I think that's why the youngsters have signed up. 

 

I hope it's not Dyche- I've convinced myself it's not. I think it's either Rohl or Carsley. My betting would be Rohl as the press believe he is leaving and wasn't at Wednesday for their pre-season work last week. 

 

Whoever it is- all I want is to see us play a style this season that, if we are fortunate enough to be promoted, we can use in the Premier League. 

 

I believe Vardy's 'shit show' phrase is about the transition from Maresca' s over playing to Cooper's pragmatism to Ruud's rigidity and inflexibility. Players can't keep adapting. They need a pattern/s of play instilled in pre-season to take into the league games.

 

The mental gymnastics required to come to this conclusion is downright impressive TBF.

Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, winteriscoming said:

Still don’t think it’ll be Rohl. 
I can see it being Hassenhuttl. 
 

Are you actually Hassenhuttl or his agent? Or maybe his wife? Every post I've seen, you have mentioned him. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

Joking aside what makes you think it will be Hassenhuttl? 

I think the Southampton obsession we seem to have and I think Rohl will turn us down. I’d be happy with Hassenhuttl. 
He’s readily available and has experience in this country. 

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Looking forward to it being made clear we haven't even spoken to candidates yet.

In respect of a possible claim from Ruud for a higher comp and also for rohl’s potential release clause that may well happen 

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