Russell Martin

[Iwebema]

1 minute ago, jv1 said:

Same thing - just pure negativity- Martin has done way more than plenty being touted - I’d say he is a relatively safe pair of hands who will have something to prove after failing in the premier league- he isn’t the first and won’t be the last that didn’t quite get it right at that level - if anything I think he comes across pretty well in some of the bigger interviews iv seen and maybe he is a b tech enzo but his record in the champ is decent - we could do a lot worse - only my opinion against all the negativity but I refuse to slate or chant against a guy that isn’t even in the door yet 

I agree with this, if the board want him then there's nothing we can do about it, no amount of complaining is going to change it once he is in, so you might aswell try and give him the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes.

 

I personally dont want him and think its going to end badly, but like cooper I'd love to be proven wrong, just cant see it.

 

The bigger issue continues to be our board and the own goals they constantly score. Regardless of how much they like him, its exactly like cooper, its an appointment that's not going to be recieved well and he's facing and up hill battle already, so just dont appoint him. There's absolutely no need to take the risk when there are plenty of other options. But the club are so out of touch with the fans and football in general we will have to watch this play out and just hope its better than we expect.

[AjcW]

1 minute ago, Kp1984 said:

yeh if he starts saying Daka is good and same old crap RVN and others came out with I’m with you 

It's quite simple optics really, i'm amazed how many managers get it so badly wrong  

[lcfc81]

1 minute ago, AjcW said:

I'd give him a chance just like anyone else, but if he signs a single player over 25 and comes out with 'there's some great experience here like Jordan and Patson is great at running in behind' then it'll just be same shit different ****, he's basically got zero margin for error with me in those first few weeks and into pre season.... 

I think I agree. I just want to see him (or whi ever else), start to bring through the wealth of young players we have got. 

I don't mind the older players in a mentoring role, but I feel the thing that seems to be going well currently is our production of high quality youth players.

If he (or any other manager) starts slower but is clearly developing our youth players I will be a little more patient. However I definitely feel we need a change of approach and something that differentiates us from other clubs. 

[Foxin_Mad]

1 minute ago, AjcW said:

I'd give him a chance just like anyone else, but if he signs a single player over 25 and comes out with 'there's some great experience here like Jordan and Patson is great at running in behind' then it'll just be same shit different ****, he's basically got zero margin for error with me in those first few weeks and into pre season.... 

100% he will say that. He will integrate Winks and Vesty back in and continue the holiday resort mentality. Then he will outcast the best actual defender we have in Souttar because he’s not quite tippy tappy enough. It’s just a continuation of the same shit.

 

The only way I’d back him is if he says we are having mass clear out, there is too much underperforming dross and we are going to focus on developing youth alongside experienced pros with the correct drive and mentality to succeed. And we are going to adapt slightly game by game to meet the challenge set by the opposition. 

[South Shire Fox]

3 minutes ago, StinckleyFox said:

Your number one choice for our manager would be a manager who has had one full season of managing a team?

A bloke that turned a club destined to be relegated to a mid table team in 12 months on a shoestring budget.. all while the players arent being paid clearly has something about him

[jv1]

2 minutes ago, Iwebema said:

I agree with this, if the board want him then there's nothing we can do about it, no amount of complaining is going to change it once he is in, so you might aswell try and give him the benefit of the doubt and see how it goes.

 

I personally dont want him and think its going to end badly, but like cooper I'd love to be proven wrong, just cant see it.

 

The bigger issue continues to be our board and the own goals they constantly score. Regardless of how much they like him, its exactly like cooper, its an appointment that's not going to be recieved well and he's facing and up hill battle already, so just dont appoint him. There's absolutely no need to take the risk when there are plenty of other options. But the club are so out of touch with the fans and football in general we will have to watch this play out and just hope its better than we expect.

I agree with plenty of that - the one bit I’m a bit different on is that I don’t think it’s like cooper at all - Martin has a very specific style like enzos- cooper and ruud have had absolutely no style at all - we have had no clue what we have been doing all year 

[Guest kristianity77]

End of the day, it doesn’t matter who comes through the management door when Ruud goes because it’s what happens above the manager that is causing pretty much all our issues over the last few years.

 

Until that happens we could have Klopp, Pep etc and it wouldn’t make a blind bit of fcuking difference. 

[Iwebema]

Just now, jv1 said:

I agree with plenty of that - the one bit I’m a bit different on is that I don’t think it’s like cooper at all - Martin has a very specific style like enzos- cooper and ruud have had absolutely no style at all - we have had no clue what we have been doing all year 

Sorry my fault for not being clear, I didn't mean in terms of play style, I just mean in terms of how the appointment will be received by fans. Half the fan base wanted Cooper out before he'd managed a game and it was always heading one way, and this will be the same, he's not going to be given time or the benefit of the doubt, unless he wins the first 5 in a row playing peak Rodgers ball, its just not going to work.

 

[splinterdream]

I don’t get the fans chanting abuse at a manager we’ve no idea if we’re getting, and if we did, how he’d do, makes us look awful as fans imo

[OntarioFox]

It's become exhausting rooting against my own team, but I won't lie, I will laugh openly if on matchday one we're outclassed by someone like Hull or Derby letting us have 90% possession then doing us on the break.

Edited 25 May 2025 by OntarioFox

[Foxin_Mad]

Just now, Iwebema said:

Sorry my fault for not being clear, I didn't mean in terms of play style, I just mean in terms of how the appointment will be received by fans. Half the fan base wanted Cooper out before he'd managed a game and it was always heading one way, and this will be the same, he's not going to be given time or the benefit of the doubt, unless he wins the first 5 in a row playing peak Rodgers ball, its just not going to work.

 

Would be nice is someone could play peak Rodgers ball, before we got scared of getting out of our own half and hammering teams for som reason. It turned when we got spanked by Liverpool on Boxing Day I think. 
 

Look I hope the guy proves me wrong I just don’t feel he has the talent. He needs to learn adaptability is key, there’s no problem having a philosophy a plan A etc all of that is good but sometimes you have to own its not working and play differently to win. Football really is pretty basic, these guys have over complicated it so much.  Like why pass it over the back line it’s so risky, when not press further up where you can do more damage?

[Corky]

6 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t get the fans chanting abuse at a manager we’ve no idea if we’re getting, and if we did, how he’d do, makes us look awful as fans imo

Yeah. Don't think he is the right fit at all but the fact he is joining is fully on the board.

[lcfc sheff]

Not sure what we expect with the situation we’re in. It’s about as good as it gets and has plenty of experience, a lot of the squad that got promoted playing his favoured style etc etc

[fox_favourite]

3 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t get the fans chanting abuse at a manager we’ve no idea if we’re getting, and if we did, how he’d do, makes us look awful as fans imo

Just the level of detachment we have for the club as a whole from the fan base. The board really needs to be freshened up. 

[Kopic]

I quite like brussels, and for my entire life I've been mocked/ridiculed/bullied for it. I do not want or like this brussel.

[South Shire Fox]

Never a good idea to appoint a manager who the majority of the fanbase do not approve of. Just look at how quickly things turned toxic with Cooper

[ClaphamFox]

8 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t get the fans chanting abuse at a manager we’ve no idea if we’re getting, and if we did, how he’d do, makes us look awful as fans imo

Apparently a few today tried to start a chant of, “Nothing personal, Russell, but we don’t think you’re the right fit - and this is more a message for our owners than you anyway”, but for some reason it didn’t catch.

Edited 25 May 2025 by ClaphamFox

[goose2010]

Got to question any manager coming into this bin fire 

[Finnegan]

7 minutes ago, splinterdream said:

I don’t get the fans chanting abuse at a manager we’ve no idea if we’re getting, and if we did, how he’d do, makes us look awful as fans imo

 

I don't agree. 

 

Martin would be a terrible appointment just as Rudkin continuing in his job would be terrible. 

 

The only hope we have of KP learning anything at this point is through considerable public embarrassment. The fans voicing their concerns loudly and en masse in a way the press pick up on is about the only thing we can do. 

 

I don't like the term happy clapper but English football fans are far, far, far too passive and we as a fanbase are probably one of the worst. It's clear the club is being very poorly run and it can't continue. 

 

The biggest win of the season today would have been if the fans had been abusing Martin loud enough and for long enough that it got a headline. 

 

Edited 25 May 2025 by Finnegan

[slymunn]

25 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Absolutley not. Danny Rohl would be my choice. No one wants another Southampton reject 

[Aleksz]

2 minutes ago, slymunn said:

Beat me to it 

[StinckleyFox]

18 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

A bloke that turned a club destined to be relegated to a mid table team in 12 months on a shoestring budget.. all while the players arent being paid clearly has something about him

Not to say that he will go on to be a great manger because he had a good first stint though. I’d rather we bring someone with more experience who has proven record of getting teams out of the championship. Like what Burnley have done in hiring Scott Parker who I am sure everyone in the forum would turn their noses up at as well.

[Iwebema]

1 minute ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Would be nice is someone could play peak Rodgers ball, before we got scared of getting out of our own half and hammering teams for som reason. It turned when we got spanked by Liverpool on Boxing Day I think. 
 

Look I hope the guy proves me wrong I just don’t feel he has the talent. He needs to learn adaptability is key, there’s no problem having a philosophy a plan A etc all of that is good but sometimes you have to own its not working and play differently to win. Football really is pretty basic, these guys have over complicated it so much.  Like why pass it over the back line it’s so risky, when not press further up where you can do more damage?

I agree, I think most do agree. Its an appointment (if its true) that almost everyone on here can see the red flags.

 

I would much rather it was someone else, all I can say for myself is if it is him, I wont hound him out until at least the 1st half of the first game 😅 

 

No, I just think we have to give him the opportunity to show he's learnt and its different with us, as much as I whole heartedly doubt it will be, I think thats all we can do.

 

I do understand why people are being vocal in the hope that it doesn't happen, I just dont think KP give a crap what we think and will just do it anyway. The only hope would be he saw the chants and says no.

 

 

[Aleksz]

3 minutes ago, South Shire Fox said:

Never a good idea to appoint a manager who the majority of the fanbase do not approve of. Just look at how quickly things turned toxic with Cooper

There’s not one manager we could realistically appoint that the “majority of the fanbase would approve of”.

 

Toxic beyond repair under this board. 

[Guest Bilo]

4 minutes ago, slymunn said:

Send that picture to Rudkin immediately.