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I don't really care. I want to see us create chances, score goals and win games and it's not massively important to me whether we do that by passing the opposition to death or sitting deep and getting it launched. If it works and the players buy in then I will buy in too - I'm not going to be sat here foaming at the mouth because we're succeeding but we're not succeeding in the way I think we should.

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Right now I’d just like to see some young local lads who play for the shirt. 
 

Im not even bothered if they’re shite or not.

 

Long term, then this possession based crab football can absolutely **** off. It’s as draining on the game as PSR and VAR 

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1 minute ago, Freeman's Wharfer said:

People say King Power have a system or a plan as if it’s some considered philosophy that runs through the club.

 

In reality, a clueless owner looked at the best team in the country at the time and went “be like them”. Not accounting for the fact that took a hell of a lot of money and a generational talent of a manager.

 

Funnily enough, the game is moving on from that style. More direct and faster counter attacking football is making a comeback and we’re about to appoint a manager so rooted in that style that everyone has sussed out and is moving on from.

Possession based is slowly dying (thank God),like you said alot of teams now know,how to play against that,I also think with managers who are obsessed with tappy- crappy football,when it doesn't work they never ever seem to have a plan b,and die by it when clearly it's not working, they still stick to it because of their fat ego,  won't allow for any other style of football.

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25 minutes ago, fox_favourite said:

@StriderHiryu - this might be an idea for a call in show. Guage what the fans want for the future of the club the style they like. I'd be interested how many will say possession football. 

Might take you up on that one!

 

From what I've seen there's a pretty clear divide, older fans generally want direct 442 football from the 90's, younger fans want a more modern approach.

 

We will also be covering this in our "How to fix LCFC" shows that we will be doing in 2 parts, and it will come up in part 2.

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High pressing, high effort, quick transition football

 

I am fed up of the tippy tappy sideways football that has infested football (cheers Pep) which is only made worse when you have a squad like ours that seemingly have no intention to put any effort into anything they do on the pitch

 

How can I get behind a team when you can so easily tell they can't be arsed

 

Unfortunately I am expecting an ever great proportion of games next season to be like the games we had under Enzo last season where you were absolutely bored out of your mind

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7 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

High pressing, high effort, quick transition football

 

I am fed up of the tippy tappy sideways football that has infested football (cheers Pep) which is only made worse when you have a squad like ours that seemingly have no intention to put any effort into anything they do on the pitch

 

How can I get behind a team when you can so easily tell they can't be arsed

 

Unfortunately I am expecting an ever great proportion of games next season to be like the games we had under Enzo last season where you were absolutely bored out of your mind

This is what everyone wants, but in reality not one single team in the world can press like madmen for 90 minutes for a 46 game season. Barcelona under Hansi Flick are electric to watch, but they lost to Inter because they were knackered playing against them, giving Inter easy goals when losing the ball. It's a neccessity to be able to keep the ball for long periods of time to tire out the opposition, but to also give your own players a rest.

 

That said, I do agree that the over Pep-ification of the game is boring. Keeping the ball and doing nothing with it is extremely boring and it's losing it's effectiveness, see my essay above!

 

Under Enzo I would say that the one team that really came out to play against us and had massive holes at the back was Southampton, which is why we battered them twice. It's hard to create transitions against teams that have no intention of ever playing football. That's why Enzo and Martin pass the ball around the back, they are trying to provoke the other team to come out to leave gaps in behind. It's just that the problem is smart teams will not fall for it and let the CBs pass between themselves because it achieves nothing!

 

If all else fails, we can try this approach from the Bundesliga. Sounds like fun!
https://www.soccerodd.com/news/paderborn-goalkeeper-plays-as-right-winger-in-frantic-final-push

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The game's moved on. Death by possession is so easily snuffed out nowadays by teams who apply a high press and fast transitions. There's a place for it, but it should not be the be-all and end-all. Even Barcelona and Spain don't exclusively apply that style anymore.

The most depressing thing? We were the ones to show it could be done, in 2015-16. We (alongside Atletico Madrid) were the tipping point for a trend, at that period in football, that spelled the death of tiki-taka as a dominant style. It's also how the likes of Brentford, Bournemouth, Palace and (yes) F*rest have been able to rub shoulders with the "big boys" while we've rotted as a club. It honestly makes me despair when I see other teams do it to us. Those two losses at the City Ground under Rodgers where they sussed us out were probably the most depressing matches I've ever endured as a fan, not only for the obvious humiliation by our local rivals, but for what they represented - other teams executing the same plan we sprung on other supposedly "elite" teams, with the same results and with us, through some strange boardroom fetish with being a pound shop Man City, becoming the club on the receiving end.

We can largely get away with shite Rodgersball in the Championship for the most part due to the huge step-down in overall quality, but even two seasons ago (yeah we can say that now) we had a job done on us by the mighty likes of Leeds, Hull, Blackburn and QPR amongst others. We fell off a cliff once teams worked out that you can bypass pure possession with a bit of grit and a counter attack, and it almost ended up costing us what seemed like a nailed-on title.

 

It's not even that it's boring to watch that bothers me - it's the fact that, like in so many other aspects, the game has moved on and our club is being left behind.

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I find Man City very entertaining. That being said, we can’t hope to play like that and survive the PL if we get back, and I would argue that’s not how we played this year, we just had two idiot managers with no style of play.

 

Don’t ever want to see a Dyche type, though.

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