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1 hour ago, ashbyj said:

Maybe we wouldn’t be having this conversation now if  he’d sacked Brendan Rogers only 4 games earlier. 
 

I still loose my sh1t thinking back to it now, almost like sitting in your living room being in denial that your own house is on fire, even when all the neighbours are screaming and trying to bang your front door in.

You're right. But there were so many times it could have gone wrong before and they got lucky. There were at least 7 managers who turned us down when Ranieri took the job. Isn't like it was some masterstroke. 

 

Likewise any decision they've made really. This idea that it's been in anyway like what Brentford and Bournemouth are doing is laughable. Okay, they'll never do what we did, but let's not pretend this has all been built on a well run club. It never ever was. Pearson, Shakespeare and Walsh were the staff who made it all possible. 

 

Then the leeches like Rudkin and Whelan held on to all the glory as long as they could. Granted we had some great times after from building on it. But look at every decision made since the title win and how much damage it slowly did. Rudkin struck lucky for a bit to get Puel's scouts find us some gems. That allowed a spell under Rodgers that basically gave Rudkin immortality in the eyes of Top. We were doomed at that point. 

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Posted
37 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The man who destroyed Nigel Pearsons project. 

Im sorry but what. Yes I love Nigel Pearson and he set us up for success but not everything that happened is Nigel Pearsons project. He destroyed Milan Mandaric's project if anything

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Posted (edited)
18 minutes ago, bmt said:

Im sorry but what. Yes I love Nigel Pearson and he set us up for success but not everything that happened is Nigel Pearsons project. He destroyed Milan Mandaric's project if anything

Literally all of our success was born from Nigel’s project…. King Power added a bit of financial flex, but even that is peanuts in comparison to some clubs financial power. Our success came entirely from the clubs set up, it bred success and over the last decade Top has let it dwindle away, and in the last few years accelerate away. 
 

No coincidence at all that now that model has been completely destroyed, we are in the shit. Clubs have copied it for **** sake. 
 

Milan? Now you’re talking utter tripe. 

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Don't think they will ever fully sell the club, if I am honest. Has family history here (the last place his dad was) unless the new owner honor his dad legacy and they are allowed to visit every year to do there traditions. I just can't see them selling the club at all now or in feature. Anywho, for me now, Top will always be the man who could not walk in the same shoes as his father. Hopefully some day il see him as the man who step out of his father's shadow, made his own foot prints and became a legend in his own right. But yeah i can dream...

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Was Top a fan of us because of our league cup wins and they influenced a reason to choose us? Or was that compete media spin by them to make it sound more connected?

 

If its the former then without him there is no KP and the domino effect of the success that followed.

 

If its the latter, then he'll be remembered as Vichai's son who ultimately failed to lead us in the long term. I dont hate the guy but I do want someone else to lead us at this stage.

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8 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

Best way to consider it. Vichai left us with one of the best midfields in the league. Ndidi, Maddison and Tielemans. 

Except Tielemans didn't sign for us until three months AFTER Vichai's death.

 

So it was Aiyawatt (NEVER use the nickname as it gives him a flattery he doesn't deserve) .who signed the cheque to bring him here, just as it was throughout the Rodgers era and under various managers since.

 

In fact he's spent more money during his time in charge than any other chairman in the club's history, Vichai included.

 

But far too much of that "investment" has been on dodgy managers and players, as well as the monumentally ill-judged, ill-timed vanity project at Seagrave.

 

The impact of the "world-leading training complex" on club finances has been clear ever since it opened.  Sadly, the quality of the coaches and players using the facility to date has fallen well short of expectations.

 

Perhaps, as two years ago, the incumbent owner can find a hungry, creative and ambitious coach who can transcend (at least for a short while) the underlying toxicity at the club.

 

However the continuing presence of the dead hands of the clearly inadequate Jon Rudkin and Susan Whelan ensures that scenario is highly unlikely.

 

As the head of a young family, Aiyawatt must consider whether he is still able to give City the priority it needs, especially given the ongoing tensions facing his business in Thailand.

 

But he's unlikely to find anyone as willing to pour money into a financial black hole as he has been in recent seasons.

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7 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Literally all of our success was born from Nigel’s project…. King Power added a bit of financial flex, but even that is peanuts in comparison to some clubs financial power. Our success came entirely from the clubs set up, it bred success and over the last decade Top has let it dwindle away, and in the last few years accelerate away. 
 

No coincidence at all that now that model has been completely destroyed, we are in the shit. Clubs have copied it for **** sake. 
 

Milan? Now you’re talking utter tripe. 

The Milan comment was quite obviously a joke. But I've just gone back to a further point than you (he initially appointed Pearson) seeing as you are claiming some form of strong determinism. 

 

As i said, Pearson set us up for success (not sure it was just him but there you go). IMO you have completely overstated his influence on some of our latter success (Rodgers FA cup win etc) which happened under Top's tenure and having moved somewhat away from some of the things Pearson set up. 

 

We have such a fascination at Leicester of attributing our success to one person. For some Vichai: for others Pearson. Our football club was successful based on far more than Pearson's actions and ignoring the other aspects because you want to call it Pearson's project, despite his mixed success at other clubs, is bizarre.

 

Other clubs have gone far further than we did down a similar path to become successful, and although we are a case study I don't think Pearson created the science-led (not sure what else to call it) model which has been very successful as Brighton etc.

 

I think you are nostalgic in a way most people are on this forum so happy to take pelters. Again I love Pearson, and again think his tenure was one of the key foundations for our success. Just don't like the 'Pearson's project' point.

 

On the point of the topic, Top is so clearly out his depth it is painful to watch. His lack of learning and apathy to the concern of fans is what I will remember. But the main point is that he was there when the luck ran out lol.

 

Now sell us to someone more suited to club ownership please.

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Posted
12 hours ago, LCFCCKEANO said:

Up until this point, not positively for me, but if he is able to turn things around and implement changes at the top level he could still end up being thought of fondly

Unfortunately it won’t ever happen ! 

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14 hours ago, Wasyls Pec Deck said:

For anyone who knows history he’s basically King John who cocked things up after his father Henry II had a long and successful reign.

 

Such a shame because Vichai left the club in such a strong position. I know we won the cup under Vichai, but ever since it’s almost like he’s not been too bothered. 

Do they play Polo in The Wash?

 

(Little history joke there - and yes, I know it's possibly not true).

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Stuntman_Mike said:

Brilliant when things are going his way (often through luck rather than his doings), but true colours shown when faced with any kind of adversity.

I do believe that Top is out of his depth, not his fault I know, this role came well to soon for him  ,

Posted
15 hours ago, kristianity77 said:

He had a great dad

He had a great daaaaad

Aiyawatt Srivaddhanaprabha

He had a great dad

He has a great horse

He has a great horse

He plays polo

He has a great horse.

 

that's my song

Posted
7 hours ago, accessory said:

Except Tielemans didn't sign for us until three months AFTER Vichai's death.

 

So it was Aiyawatt (NEVER use the nickname as it gives him a flattery he doesn't deserve) .who signed the cheque to bring him here, just as it was throughout the Rodgers era and under various managers since.

 

In fact he's spent more money during his time in charge than any other chairman in the club's history, Vichai included.

 

But far too much of that "investment" has been on dodgy managers and players, as well as the monumentally ill-judged, ill-timed vanity project at Seagrave.

 

The impact of the "world-leading training complex" on club finances has been clear ever since it opened.  Sadly, the quality of the coaches and players using the facility to date has fallen well short of expectations.

 

Perhaps, as two years ago, the incumbent owner can find a hungry, creative and ambitious coach who can transcend (at least for a short while) the underlying toxicity at the club.

 

However the continuing presence of the dead hands of the clearly inadequate Jon Rudkin and Susan Whelan ensures that scenario is highly unlikely.

 

As the head of a young family, Aiyawatt must consider whether he is still able to give City the priority it needs, especially given the ongoing tensions facing his business in Thailand.

 

But he's unlikely to find anyone as willing to pour money into a financial black hole as he has been in recent seasons.

Tielemans was very much a signing during the Vichai period - the scouting, loan move etc. was during that period - albeit, the final transfer happened after his death. 
 

But yes, Top through sheer incompetence has seen this club lose money left right and centre. And don’t get me wrong, Vichai was very much capable of a few clangers like any other eccentric billionaire owner. I’ll tell you what though, the capability was there to ensure multiple clangers don’t drop us down the drain. 
 

The club was bought for the little fella to learn. Unfortunately, he’s a lazy waste of space with no regard for effort. The same goes for nugget of shit Rudkin and Susan “I give great BJ but can’t read a balance sheet” Whelan. They all were propelled by one man and given a gift. None of them took that opportunity to better themselves. The evidence is here, right in front of us. For that reason, I have no regard for them. 

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I remember when KP initially took over and IIRC Top was the man in charge at the time we spunked a whole load of cash on shite like Matt Mills, SSL Beckford etc etc etc.

 

Pearson came back to fix the mess and I am fairly sure Top was banished to spend time with Monks and Vichai stepped up to take a more active role, fast forward to now and it would appear based on the last 4/5 years Top has sadly learnt very little from the early days and still runs the club like a star struck teenager with zero business accumen, he has overseen an horrific overspend on muck and presided over a catastrophic collapse on and off the pitch that has resulted in 2 relegations in 3 seasons, financial meltdown and PR disasters including selling our soul to the devil to get into bed with the likes of FSB and BC Game as official  club sponsors. 
 

The good work of Puel and Macia gave us a couple of years under Rodgers but as soon as Top handed the keys of power over to Brendan the rot started to set in. 
 

Top at both the start of the KP reign and now over the last 5 years as clearly demonstrated he is so far out of his depth and more concerning he doesn’t seem to learn from his mistakes, in fact he seems to double down on them. 
 

Unless he suddenly has some sort of epiphany, then I am afraid things are just going to keep getting worse and the disconnect with the fanbase will continue to widen. 
 

He has been a disaster since day 1 and it’s continuing now in this 2nd time of being the main decision maker and there appears very little in the way of him showing that he is maturing into an experienced and capable operator in the football world. 

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