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It’s a risk, though most appointments will be.

 

Manager on the up rather than down hopefully. Did great in 1st 6 month with QPR to keep them up.

 

 

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11 hours ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Before 2001 he was called Martí Jifuentes.

Took me a minute but then once i got it i have to applaud it. Genius

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Those talking about experience. Is Dyche’s experience in this league over 10 years ago really relevant now? It’s a different league now, things have moved on. The likes of Cifuentes and Rohl have current experience in managing in this league, even if they haven’t got promoted from it, which would be a completely unrealistic expectation given the two teams they have been managing. 
 

I’d sooner one of these who have had success where they have been recently than names who are deemed to have experience but in reality, have failed in recent jobs.

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10 minutes ago, Scotch said:

Their jobs in Scandinavia are pretty incomparable. Potter spent 7 years with one club building them to where they went from the Swedish 4th tier to 5th in the top and a European knockout game. Cifuentes spent a total of 4 years at 3 different clubs, in 3 different countries. Achieving what was set out and moving on each time. 

 

It's kind of like comparing what Phil Parkinson has done at Wrexham to what Enzo done here. 

Yes and Enzo had zero experience and got us promoted with by far the best team in the league. Enzo got us drilled and consistent in our style guiding a good team that should have been promoted. His limitations being his lack of flexibility which was all too clear as we limped over the line with more teams setting up to not let us play. 
 

It will be much harder this time as by day one we will not be the outstanding team in the league. So one word from a manager that we need is flexibility. 
 

Id rather Rohl but Cifuentes is an intriguing pick and I believe will be a good one in the long run. Definitely better than Dyche and Wilder. 

 

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I was initially impressed with his QPR record, was he manager when Winks scored the winner there? Thought they were decent that day and we were lucky. 

There were some talk about them being dark horses this time last season but didn't materialise. 

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I know nothing of this man. Nothing to offer to the thread either apart from his name is an anagram of

 

“if, c unt arse time”

 

Hope that helps those sat on the fence over this 🙏🏻

Posted
52 minutes ago, Silva Fox said:

Has he "distanced himself" yet?

We've "moved on" as it was "too complicated". 5pm tonight Percy will announce the next Championship manager that we've been a "long term admirer of". 

Posted
18 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I was initially impressed with his QPR record, was he manager when Winks scored the winner there? Thought they were decent that day and we were lucky. 

There were some talk about them being dark horses this time last season but didn't materialise. 

That game at Loftus Road was Ainsworth’s last game in charge. 

Posted
10 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

And lost 0-5 to Burnley at home and 0-4 to Boro at home 

and shipped 6 against us.

A team that set prem records for being toothless 

He had a poor squad, and was on gardening leave when Burnley dismantled them I believe.

 

He took over Ainsworth who had QPR in an awful position and they finished well. I'm not saying he's perfect but he's definitely more attractive than Wilder and GON

Posted
1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

I prefer the look of Rohl's background, learning from some significant managers at big clubs.  Marti has gone another way and taken on manager roles himself at smaller clubs. 

Was he at Forest??

Posted
1 minute ago, mozartfox said:

Was he at Forest??

He managed Forest, Derby and Cov all at the same time because they were so small.

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Numb to it. Genuinely don't care who the manager is just as long as it isn't one of the dinosaurs we've been linked with solely because of their "experience" or because we know their agent. 

 

 

Posted
9 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

He managed Forest, Derby and Cov all at the same time because they were so small.

But where's Rohl? :dry:

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Posted
3 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

Well according to the Media we are finding his 'contractual issues too difficult'. Don't blame me.

Because it's you, I'll forgive you.

 

 

 

This time...

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Posted
1 minute ago, l444ry said:

Hope is more confident than mere wishful thinking. 

At the moment I'm wishfully thinking about having hope.

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Apologies, I can't be arsed checking 14 pages to see if this has been posted already, but one of the big English football youtubers is a QPR fan and produced this when Cifuentes went there.

 

 

What makes me laugh is he could pretty much be describing Enzo for large parts of it, haha.

 

Looking forward to that penny dropping for half our fanbase.

 

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4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Apologies, I can't be arsed checking 14 pages to see if this has been posted already, but one of the big English football youtubers is a QPR fan and produced this when Cifuentes went there.

 

 

What makes me laugh is he could pretty much be describing Enzo for large parts of it, haha.

 

Looking forward to that penny dropping for half our fanbase.

 

It makes sense, more sense than Cooper and other appointment with the squad that we have.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

Apologies, I can't be arsed checking 14 pages to see if this has been posted already, but one of the big English football youtubers is a QPR fan and produced this when Cifuentes went there.

 

 

What makes me laugh is he could pretty much be describing Enzo for large parts of it, haha.

 

Looking forward to that penny dropping for half our fanbase.

 

woah woah woah

 

calm it down you; dont ask for miracles now

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, LCFCJohn said:

Those talking about experience. Is Dyche’s experience in this league over 10 years ago really relevant now? It’s a different league now, things have moved on. The likes of Cifuentes and Rohl have current experience in managing in this league, even if they haven’t got promoted from it, which would be a completely unrealistic expectation given the two teams they have been managing. 
 

I’d sooner one of these who have had success where they have been recently than names who are deemed to have experience but in reality, have failed in recent jobs.

Having the ability to manage in this league means nothing, it's a poor league compared to our squad, Scott Parker just got Burnely promoted with 100 points ffs. All of Dyche, Wilder, O'Neil, Rohl, Van Nistelrooy and other manager that our fans would rightfully groan at like steve bruce or sam allardyce would get us promoted via the automatic spots, that's not what matters. What matters is whether the next manager leaves our squad better off than when they found it. 

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No manager comes without risk obviously but there’s stuff like about Cifuentes. Notably the fact QPR were bottom, struggling massively and on a six game losing streak when he took over. He still managed to keep them up. Seems to have a clear way of playing and keen on developing younger players. When it clicks like that 4–0 against Leeds you can see the potential (I remember watching that thought they were fantastic). I don't know a huge amount about him but i'm cautiously optimistic 

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