Cifuentes OUT

[pmcla26]

8 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

What has alarmed me more than the utter dog shit that is happening before our eyes is his post match comments on Tuesday. He is getting desperate now and has moved from saying things need to improve and he is angrier than we are to delusion that Tuesday's performance will lead to good results if we carry that on.

 

Get him gone

I personally thought it was our worst performance that I've seen this season (not watched 90 mins of every game). 2 shots on target, 3 corners, 74% pass completion and 38% possession at home against any side in this league is not good enough. 

Edited 6 November 2025 by pmcla26

[Richmondfox]

2 hours ago, Fox92 said:

The manager is also an issue.

He is the biggest issue.  Sending the players out without a plan other than pass around and don’t offer any support to the wingers. 

 

I feel they are following his tactics rather than ignoring him.  His tactics are poor and his ability to visualise a solution from what he is seeing is nonexistent. 
 

Apart from Ayew, several of our players are actually capable of attacking as a team, ability to finish is a different topic. 

 

Monga, Mavadidi, Fatawu, JJ & Ricardo have more than enough skills to work out passages of play. 
 

Page showed more verve than Ayew who stopped still during a counter attack under zero pressure, just to pass backwards. 
 

Our forwards are crap, put Daka in to pretend to be a threat looking for scraps.

 

Every aspect needs to be quicker, work on instinct not over thinking and looking for the easy backwards option.

 

Thomas proved that when forced he can run over the halfway line with the ball and cross.  It was also very easy for him to switch back to the boring back pass for the sake of control, but putting the press on the cbs and keeper.  All it takes is one Ayew or Thomas stink out pass and the attack is over. 

 

Ricardo needs to step up, be a vocal leader and stop being boring on the pitch, he’s playing like old JJ. Get back to being the threat he was when he got back into the team and scored. 

the under 21s seem to be able to score goals weekly, they might not win but maybe there is an option there.  At this point Marti’s known knowns are letting him down every game. 

Edited 6 November 2025 by Richmondfox

[Corky]

11 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Without ‘piling on’.

 

You refer to this being our natural level. Even if you discount the recent, unprecedented success of the past 10 years, winning the top flight and FA cup for the first time, our level has been lower top tier/upper second tier. We have the record number of second tier titles, a few more seasons in the second tier than the first but relatively equal over our history and one single season outside the top two tiers. Floating round in the bottom half of the second tier, 1 win in 10 and looking over our shoulders to relegation to the third tier would always be considered bad for us regardless of the last 10 years.

 

Secondly, wage bills for the league were posted somewhere on here a day or so ago. We were something like £10 mill clear of the next side (Southampton) and about 4 times plus more than most other sides, many of those above us in the table. Apply that logic to any league and whilst money is not everything, if you are spending so much more than your competitors, that should be reflected somewhat in the league standings.

 

All this shows that the club is in a terrible place and is massively underperforming on any measure you choose, historical standings and general principles of how much we are spending. It has nothing to do with winning the PL in 2016 and FA cup in 2021. All those achievements do is highlight just how bad the fall has been.

Even the unprecedented success could have had a precedent. We were close to winning the league twice in the 20s and 60s and reached four FA Cup Finals in the past.

 

Winning it in this era was extremely unexpected but let's not have it that we have never been close. No idea why our own fans accept this as the norm- it is nowhere near it.

[DezFox]

6 hours ago, Ky Le Don said:

Any chance you can copy and paste please. I don't have a twitter account.

Best I can do mate. 
 

 

[trooky]

13 hours ago, LCFCJohn said:

Without ‘piling on’.

 

You refer to this being our natural level. Even if you discount the recent, unprecedented success of the past 10 years, winning the top flight and FA cup for the first time, our level has been lower top tier/upper second tier. We have the record number of second tier titles, a few more seasons in the second tier than the first but relatively equal over our history and one single season outside the top two tiers. Floating round in the bottom half of the second tier, 1 win in 10 and looking over our shoulders to relegation to the third tier would always be considered bad for us regardless of the last 10 years.

 

Secondly, wage bills for the league were posted somewhere on here a day or so ago. We were something like £10 mill clear of the next side (Southampton) and about 4 times plus more than most other sides, many of those above us in the table. Apply that logic to any league and whilst money is not everything, if you are spending so much more than your competitors, that should be reflected somewhat in the league standings.

 

All this shows that the club is in a terrible place and is massively underperforming on any measure you choose, historical standings and general principles of how much we are spending. It has nothing to do with winning the PL in 2016 and FA cup in 2021. All those achievements do is highlight just how bad the fall has been.

Good post, and the most depressing part is the highest earners are under performing the most. 

[JacobLCFC1234]

I think discussions on possession percentages and certain stats are a bit irrelevant. In a game of football, one team will have more possession than the other whatever their styles are predominently, one team will have the bigger share of possession.

 

But its context.

 

Teams that tend to have lots of possession dont have a lot of possession as the goal, it just happens to come with their domination of the game, i.e. winning the ball back quickly, passing to team mates instead of giving the ball away, managing situations in the game like protecting a lead by being on the offensive rather than sitting back and hacking clearances away. 

 

Their high possession numbers came as a by-product of doing things RIGHT in the game, and not because they set out with the intention that having the most possession in the game was the goal.

 

The couple of things that stand out to me as being very wrong with Leicester watching matches and not going on a stats basis are:

 

1) Any time we lose the ball, we look all over the place in transitions. This shows that the team with little possession can often win because when they get the ball off us, it doesnt take much to make a good quality chance, whereas we work hard to create chances of extremely low quality when we have the ball.

 

2) Game management,understanding WHEN to pass short, WHEN to be direct, and having more tactical flexibility than predictable patterns of play that focus on wide areas a lot and creating the same passing moves too often.

 

 

[coolhandfox]

People will read Dominic piece and still defend him.

 

 

[Lionator]

[jv1]

5 hours ago, Fox92 said:

The manager is also an issue.

A massive one correct 

[Clever Fox]

I haven't seen anything in recent games that makes me believe he knows what he's doing.

 

What does he do in training with the players.

[oxtonfox]

43 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I haven't seen anything in recent games that makes me believe he knows what he's doing.

 

What does he do in training with the players.

Apparently they train really well according to MC and everyone gets on, there is a positive spirit. I am not sure he knows what’s best for this lot, they’ve become accustomed to not winning games.

One of the issues is that there are no leaders in this team now. 2 seasons ago we had Kiernan and Vardy who at least led by example. There’s no one now to calm down Abdul etc. 

[Richmondfox]

7 minutes ago, oxtonfox said:

Apparently they train really well according to MC and everyone gets on, there is a positive spirit. I am not sure he knows what’s best for this lot, they’ve become accustomed to not winning games.

One of the issues is that there are no leaders in this team now. 2 seasons ago we had Kiernan and Vardy who at least led by example. There’s no one now to calm down Abdul etc. 

they look good in training against poor opposition. 

[lcfc_forever]

Get him in! 
https://www.fifatrainingcentre.com/en/environment/interviews/coaching-perspectives/esteban-cambiasso-on-tactical-awareness-communication-and-coaching.php

 

Look at so many of the top managers right now - Guardiola, Arteta, Xabi Alonso, Cesc - were all deep-lying playmakers. 

[pmcla26]

One non negotiable that I’m sick to death of with our last 3 managers is the playing wingers that can’t run. 
 

The only 3 options that should be available for the wide areas in this squad are Mavididi, Fatawu and Monga. 
 

If he names Ayew on the wing again on Saturday over Mavididi or Monga then he’s 100% done here. 

[Matt_Lcfc]

I would love King as manager. At this time, I just do not think it’s right. There are a lot of redeeming factors: intelligent guy, loves the club & very well respected by the fanbase. I just do not think it’s a good time. You just know that he will inevitably be let down by the hierarchy & it will end badly. He doesn’t deserve that and as a supporter, I would not want anything that could potentially tarnish his reputation. The issue is that when/if we lose at Norwich on Saturday, Cifuentes will leave. I mean, I don’t think he is the answer , however, he is not the main issue at the club. In all fairness, he probably isn’t even problem number three. His tactical setup is turgid & his substitutions are mind-boggling, granted, but I am not even convinced Guardiola would get this bunch playing. He will depart and we will just embark on the same cycle: appoint a manager, win a few games & then proceed further on this downwards trajectory. I’m sorry, even on the off chance we improved on the pitch, I just cannot get excited about the club right now. I live overseas - but if I lived in the UK, I probably wouldn’t care about going regularly. I’m completely emotionally uninvested until Aiywatt and Rudkin GTFO.

Edited 6 November 2025 by Matt_Lcfc

[Ky Le Don]

4 hours ago, DezFox said:

Best I can do mate. 
 

 

Thanks mate. I was curious to see what was said and is definitely miserable reading. Really makes you wonder what he is doing with them in training as he must see these stats himself. Thanks again 👍

[HankMarvin]

1 hour ago, oxtonfox said:

Apparently they train really well according to MC and everyone gets on,

Lots of smiley faces round the 5 star holiday camp, some stay there to avoid travel.
Jannick has his dog. 

Bit different when they get on the pitch tho 

 

[HankMarvin]

54 minutes ago, Matt_Lcfc said:

I just do not think it’s a good time

Maybe the perfect time, he knows the setup.

Probably witnessing what’s going wrong internally.

Knows how the players are feeling.

Would get the full support of the crowd straight away.

 

That being said, I still think he should be alongside someone more senior learning the ropes before getting the chance of the role.  

 

[Pliskin]

He’s got to go, simply because he’s doing even worse than he should be. 
 

A manager will get a time out of this squad, it just needs to be a strong enough character to do what benefits the team, and not what Top wants. 

[Matt_Lcfc]

1 hour ago, HankMarvin said:

Maybe the perfect time, he knows the setup.

Probably witnessing what’s going wrong internally.

Knows how the players are feeling.

Would get the full support of the crowd straight away.

 

That being said, I still think he should be alongside someone more senior learning the ropes before getting the chance of the role.  

 

He will know the internal problems at the club but that isn’t mutually exclusive to him, we can all see it. It’s no different to any other organisation: recognising the issue and addressing them are two separate entities. We all know who the elephant in the room is, and as I have said above, until King Power go, any manager will struggle with putting us on the right track. 

Edited 7 November 2025 by Matt_Lcfc

[iancognito]

Despite anything else I've said, he's had a shitty hand at times. Ramsey, one of our few threats gets a stupid red, scores 2 in 3 then gets injured til possibly Christmas. Page is now away with England, our general recruitment was garbage aside from the two loanees. You also can't legislate for Mavididi's shit finishing which has cost us 3 goals so far. 

 

But you can't get away from the fact that this isn't the Prem. Sides far worse than us create more, score more and play better. Virtually every substitution weakens us and we do have kids to blood or recall from loan who are better than the SAS in midfield. If he doesn't sort out those issues, starting at Norwich, he's finished here.

[filbertway]

7 hours ago, Pliskin said:

He’s got to go, simply because he’s doing even worse than he should be. 
 

A manager will get a time out of this squad, it just needs to be a strong enough character to do what benefits the team, and not what Top wants. 

What does that look like in your opinion?

 

If we remove the senior players that contribute little and bring in the younger lads, you have to accept that results won't likely improve in the short term and be willing to accept the pain that comes with development. Which I would be all for, knowing that they'd be gaining invaluable experience and would stand us in good stead in the longer term.

If you think a 4th manager is suddenly going to have the senior players playing with the ability and confidence of a top 6 championship side then I think that's incredibly unlikely.

 

It's imperative that we get a few out in Jan and bring in some proper leaders and physicality in January if we have any designs on going up. Still standing by my shout that Barry Bannan would have been an excellent signing this summer. Great mentality and a grafter at this level, something we're massively lacking overall.

[murphy]

25 minutes ago, filbertway said:

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If you think a 4th manager is suddenly going to have the senior players playing with the ability and confidence of a top 6 championship side then I think that's incredibly unlikely.

 

It's imperative that we get a few out in Jan and bring in some proper leaders and physicality in January if we have any designs on going up. Still standing by my shout that Barry Bannan would have been an excellent signing this summer. Great mentality and a grafter at this level, something we're massively lacking overall.

Jakub, Ricardo, Faes, Vestergaard, Fatawu, Daka and Mavididi have all been part of a championship title winning team. 

 

Kristiansen, Okoli, Skipp, Ayew, Reid, Thomas, Hamza and Soumare were all signed to play in the Premier League or have extensive experience at that level. 

 

Our loan signings (discounting Carranza) have arguably been our best players.  Throw in a smattering of promising academy graduates and why shouldn't we expect them to be playing like a top 6 championship side.  We should be demanding it of them as a bare minimum. 

[Sol thewall Bamba]

If he had gone to war with Rudkin and just played kids like basically every supporter wanted he'd have gone down much more favourably with the fans when he got sacked. As it is he's going to get sacked anyway and he'll be forgotten in 12 months. A real shame.

[Taz_The_Fox]

I feel that hes just too much of a nice guy. Some of the "seasoned pros" who are also the ones that cant be arsed wont respond to him. 

We need a disciplinarian to sort out some the half arsed brigade and then if they dont respond, cut them out the squad. 

 

I think thats why Enzo worked so well. You knew if you dont pull your weight you are out. Funny how Thomas never got a look in whilst he was here 🤔.