Maresca to Man City

[em9999]

3 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Difficult to argue that Man City aren't well run.

A well run club doesnt face 115 charges ..

 

This is a wild statement 

Edited 19 May by em9999

[st albans fox]

Pep usually sees out his contracts 

 

he always said he wouldn’t manage at the club if they were guilty 

 

make your own deductions 

[TJB-fox]

Maresca’s time here really highlights how thick our supporters are. 
 

Great manager and wish him the very best.

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, TJB-fox said:

Maresca’s time here really highlights how thick our supporters are. 
 

Great manager and wish him the very best.

Agreed. He arrested our catastrophic decline for a bit. 

[les-tah]

The best we can hope for is Maresca sends Top and Rudkin some talent to help us go back up.

[Pliskin]

Man City will receive no punishment….. if they do it will be a measly fine….. they’re not going to punish a club that’s so lucrative for the league are they? 

[Tommy G]

19 minutes ago, em9999 said:

No he isn't Alex ferguson was ... 

 

I wouldnt even put pep on front of brian clough 

 

Too many question marks to how exactly they achieved this success and only one champions league too 

Brian Clough 

 

It's an opinions game and there is some argument for SAF but Pep IMO has eclipsed him now. 

[21st Century Fox]

3 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Man City will receive no punishment….. if they do it will be a measly fine….. they’re not going to punish a club that’s so lucrative for the league are they? 

The Premier League’s glaring error is that they can’t punish a team with the financial backing of a leading petrostate. Their owners literally have the money to buy Nick DiMarcos testicles and use them to genetically engineer generations of lawyers to keep the Premier League tied up in legal challenges until humans evolve past the use of feet and football becomes obsolete.

[Fox92]

17 minutes ago, em9999 said:

No he isn't Alex ferguson was ... 

 

I wouldnt even put pep on front of brian clough 

 

Too many question marks to how exactly they achieved this success and only one champions league too 

Yet Ferguson managed Man Utd for 26 years and won two Champions Leagues?

 

Even if you don't think Guardiola is the greatest manager of all time he is up there. There is no doubt Ferguson and Clough are up there too, Paisley as well (who is often forgot about), Cruyff, Ancelotti... I'm sure we could all make an argument for the best.

 

RE the charges I thought they pre date Guardiola? Don't they date back as far as Mancini?

[Broof]

1 hour ago, adejo92 said:

It was some of the least enjoyable football ive ever seen - not the worst.

 

It was horrific to watch in my opinion, despite the results being positive.

 

Can't remember many games under his rein where i came away thinking wow, that was a great watch.

 

Football served up this season was bad, but for other reasons.

Bad but more enjoyable yeah? 

[Guppys Love Child]

1 hour ago, adejo92 said:

It was some of the least enjoyable football ive ever seen - not the worst.

 

It was horrific to watch in my opinion, despite the results being positive.

 

Can't remember many games under his rein where i came away thinking wow, that was a great watch.

 

Football served up this season was bad, but for other reasons.

Spot On. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Was Enzo a good coach? - yes, 100%

Did he have success? -yes, 

Did we win more matches than we lost? - yes

Did he fulfill his remit of promotion? -  yes

 

All of the above are the technical aspects of his management, and are what he was employed and paid good money to deliver. Promotion that season was proof of his overall success.

 

But the point others are making is that whilst he ultimately delivered, his tactics, style of play, and Enzoball philosophy when deployed each match was a "weapons grade snooze fest", that apart from the euphoric instant when scoring the actual goal(s) happened ,the rest of the time whilst technically good and successful in it application wasn't pleasing on the eye and hardly heart thumping, even to medium levels of adrenaline inducing entertainment...  No, it was for majority of the time slow, drab,. methodical build up play, with frustration inducing back and sideways passing.  Yep BORING.

 

In no way could it truly be described as entertaining. Just affective at gaining positive results.

 

 Currently we haven't got the squad or the resources to build a squad competent enough to implement Enzoball anyway so it's academic anyway.

 

Which IMO is a god send... 

 

 

 

[AKCJ]

30 minutes ago, em9999 said:

A well run club doesnt face 115 charges ..

 

This is a wild statement 

They're first place in scouting, academy, marketing, player development, coaching, nutrition, facilities and all the rest of it.

[Broof]

10 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot On. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Was Enzo a good coach? - yes, 100%

Did he have success? -yes, 

Did we win more matches than we lost? - yes

Did he fulfill his remit of promotion? -  yes

 

All of the above are the technical aspects of his management, and are what he was employed and paid good money to deliver. Promotion that season was proof of his overall success.

 

But the point others are making is that whilst he ultimately delivered, his tactics, style of play, and Enzoball philosophy when deployed each match was a "weapons grade snooze fest", that apart from the euphoric instant when scoring the actual goal(s) happened ,the rest of the time whilst technically good and successful in it application wasn't pleasing on the eye and hardly heart thumping, even to medium levels of adrenaline inducing entertainment...  No, it was for majority of the time slow, drab,. methodical build up play, with frustration inducing back and sideways passing.  Yep BORING.

 

In no way could it truly be described as entertaining. Just affective at gaining positive results.

 

 Currently we haven't got the squad or the resources to build a squad competent enough to implement Enzoball anyway so it's academic anyway.

 

Which IMO is a god send... 

 

 

 

Thank god our fridge is broken. I was so tired of chicken and broccoli. Much better now we can have tuna sandwiches scavenged from a bin. 

[adejo92]

28 minutes ago, Broof said:

Bad but more enjoyable yeah? 

Christ you love an argument don't you.

 

I stick by what I said, the football was among the least enjoyable ive watched. 

 

No good just throwing Jordan Ayews name into it as a counter argument just because you think its popular to blame this season on him.

 

So for the record, once more, I rate Enzo as a manager, but I think his football was amongst the least enjoyable ive watched. 

 

Also, for the record, Jordan Ayew was far from our biggest problem this season, despite it being popular to just slag him off.

 

Now, go and argue with your Mrs about what shes served for dinner or something - you're boring.

Edited 19 May by adejo92

[The Year Of The Fox]

5 hours ago, adejo92 said:

Comparing it to what we have been served up since isn't really relevant.

 

I never said he didn't do well, i said his football was boring as fvck and I stand by it.

 

It was an absolute borefest,  successful or not.

Correct

 

No mental gymnastics required

 

 

It was absolutely horrendous to watch. Genuinely put me off football 

[The Year Of The Fox]

1 hour ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot On. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Was Enzo a good coach? - yes, 100%

Did he have success? -yes, 

Did we win more matches than we lost? - yes

Did he fulfill his remit of promotion? -  yes

 

All of the above are the technical aspects of his management, and are what he was employed and paid good money to deliver. Promotion that season was proof of his overall success.

 

But the point others are making is that whilst he ultimately delivered, his tactics, style of play, and Enzoball philosophy when deployed each match was a "weapons grade snooze fest", that apart from the euphoric instant when scoring the actual goal(s) happened ,the rest of the time whilst technically good and successful in it application wasn't pleasing on the eye and hardly heart thumping, even to medium levels of adrenaline inducing entertainment...  No, it was for majority of the time slow, drab,. methodical build up play, with frustration inducing back and sideways passing.  Yep BORING.

 

In no way could it truly be described as entertaining. Just affective at gaining positive results.

 

 Currently we haven't got the squad or the resources to build a squad competent enough to implement Enzoball anyway so it's academic anyway.

 

Which IMO is a god send... 

 

 

 

Yep

 

You’ve nailed it here

 

It’s possible for him to be a good manager (although one dimensional) but also for his methods to serve up horrific viewing.

 

If anyone hand on heart enjoyed watching our games under him, your other highlight of your week must be deliberating if it’s the general waste or recycling bins turn to go out this week

 

 

 

Edited 19 May by The Year Of The Fox

[Dan]

Highly doubt he holds any sort of grudge against us, but I'd imagine being at that Norwich game probably opened his eyes to some of his obvious suspicions he'd have developed over his time about the state of the club. I'd imagine he'd be advising them to not loan anyone here for the sake of their own development. Mukasa will hardly be a glowing reference either.

[cityfanlee23]

1 hour ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Spot On. I agree wholeheartedly.

 

Was Enzo a good coach? - yes, 100%

Did he have success? -yes, 

Did we win more matches than we lost? - yes

Did he fulfill his remit of promotion? -  yes

 

All of the above are the technical aspects of his management, and are what he was employed and paid good money to deliver. Promotion that season was proof of his overall success.

 

But the point others are making is that whilst he ultimately delivered, his tactics, style of play, and Enzoball philosophy when deployed each match was a "weapons grade snooze fest", that apart from the euphoric instant when scoring the actual goal(s) happened ,the rest of the time whilst technically good and successful in it application wasn't pleasing on the eye and hardly heart thumping, even to medium levels of adrenaline inducing entertainment...  No, it was for majority of the time slow, drab,. methodical build up play, with frustration inducing back and sideways passing.  Yep BORING.

 

In no way could it truly be described as entertaining. Just affective at gaining positive results.

 

 Currently we haven't got the squad or the resources to build a squad competent enough to implement Enzoball anyway so it's academic anyway.

 

Which IMO is a god send... 

 

 

 

Completely agree with this. Results are great and we all want to support a successful club, but the reason I watch football is to be entertained, the reason I don't watch cricket personally is because I don't find it entertaining, the reason others don't watch F1 is because they don't find it entertaining. 

Enzo was incredibly successful at getting results with us, and there is no doubt he inherited a mess and forced us to turn a corner, but the football just wasn't entertaining for the vast majority of the match, and I don't watch football to be excited for less than 10 minutes of the 95+. 

If we were for example fighting for survival, then sure, I'd take boring results over entertainment, but as a general philosophy, I want to see us going hell for leather to score, high press, high aggression, fast paced football. Enzo is the complete opposite of that. 

Edited 19 May by cityfanlee23

[Silebyfox_89]

Imagine Enzo putting Top, Rudkin or Boehly as a reference on his CV 😅

[MC Prussian]

This obsession with Maresca is somewhat... worrying.

 

He's no Nigel Pearson. And no wizard, either.

[Chrysalis]

37 minutes ago, Dan said:

Highly doubt he holds any sort of grudge against us, but I'd imagine being at that Norwich game probably opened his eyes to some of his obvious suspicions he'd have developed over his time about the state of the club. I'd imagine he'd be advising them to not loan anyone here for the sake of their own development. Mukasa will hardly be a glowing reference either.

If we want to do whats right for the club, we shouldnt be looking for loanees from EPL clubs in league one.
We need to look the other way and recruit league one/two players, also lique two and second tier in Italy, Germany.

[Guppys Love Child]

1 hour ago, Broof said:

Thank god our fridge is broken. I was so tired of chicken and broccoli. Much better now we can have tuna sandwiches scavenged from a bin. 

Sorry, and in English please, I haven't the faintest idea what you are trying to convey 

[Mike the Metal Ed]

We played far better and more attacking football under Maresca than anyone including Rodgers since 2020. I think honestly some people remember it as being worse than it was.

[Guppys Love Child]

10 minutes ago, Mike the Metal Ed said:

We played far better and more attacking football under Maresca than anyone including Rodgers since 2020. I think honestly some people remember it as being worse than it was.

Nope...  It was just boring mate.

 

Also 56 passes in our own half, gradually making it to their 18 Yard box to turn around l pass back and start build up play again is hardly attacking football.

 

I hate Rodgers with a burning passion, but his brand of sabotage... Sorry, sorry football was more attacking and he to had a tendency to like his teams to pi$$ around with it at the back.

[The Year Of The Fox]

8 minutes ago, Guppys Love Child said:

Nope...  It was just boring mate.

 

Also 56 passes in our own half, gradually making it to their 18 Yard box to turn around l pass back and start build up play again is hardly attacking football.

 

I hate Rodgers with a burning passion, but his brand of sabotage... Sorry, sorry football was more attacking and he to had a tendency to like his teams to pi$$ around with it at the back.

First game I went under Enzo was Watford at home. I walked out saying it was worse than anything Rodgers served up