Russell Martin - Confirmed as First Team Manager

[ceebeefox]

1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Tippy happy got us 2 5th places an fa cup and won the championship 

I don’t think we were tippy tappy under Rodgers in the Maresca mould. Did I see the game differently because we won matches?

[Tomo260]

If/when Martin fails the blame and anger needs to be directed to the board. It's no secret what RM brings to the table and it's inevitable. 

 

The board continue to make outrageously stupid decisions.

 

However, I'll give RM a chance but the board need to be prepared to drop him early enough and admit fault 

[PaddyS]

13 minutes ago, Tomo260 said:

 the board need to be prepared to drop him early enough and admit fault 

Unfortunately, I've seen 3 or 4 comments now from people who are close to him saying that he would have been a success if he had been given enough time (at previous clubs),

so I can see him being kept on well beyond his sell-by date if he keeps telling our owners to stick with him.

[OntarioFox]

2 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Tippy happy got us 2 5th places an fa cup and won the championship 

The game has moved on rapidly since Covid - teams have worked out how to play against possession systems.

Even Enzo got worked out in real-time in 23-24 when teams stopped "showing us respect" and worked out you can just high-press a possession system and force mistakes. Between February and April we almost f***ed up a 12-point lead, won 3 in 10, lost 6 times including 3 in a row, and squeaked the title by one point.

 

Last season should have been the wake-up call but it wasn't. We're going to continue to get embarassed in the third tier if we persist with it, because you need Man City's resources to make it work against the more intense pressure teams now exert. 

 

Unless Martin has somehow changed his spots after two almighty failures and realised that he needs a squad with high fitness that is willing to press in all positions to compliment any high-possession approach, we're in for yet another miserable season. The sheer lack of quality in the third tier might mean it works from time to time, but on the whole anyone expecting it to somehow click with a threadbare squad and an approach that's ten years past its sell-by date is going to be in for an unpleasant surprise.

Edited Saturday at 16:21 by OntarioFox

[VLC86]

1 hour ago, ceebeefox said:

I don’t think we were tippy tappy under Rodgers in the Maresca mould. Did I see the game differently because we won matches?

No, when we did well under Rodger’s we were a fast, free flowing team which aimed to start strongly. Under Maresca, we retained control over that.

 

Under Brendan when we were crap, it was more similar in my opinion.

[The Doctor]

5 hours ago, OntarioFox said:

mate have you tried keto, it'll change your life

can dabble with eggs to your hearts content on that tbf

[Ric Flair]

2 hours ago, PaddyS said:

Unfortunately, I've seen 3 or 4 comments now from people who are close to him saying that he would have been a success if he had been given enough time (at previous clubs),

so I can see him being kept on well beyond his sell-by date if he keeps telling our owners to stick with him.

If we do not get promoted next season, we are toast

[inckley fox]

4 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said:

Tippy happy got us 2 5th places an fa cup and won the championship 

I'm not sure that's right. We played the 'hybrid' game, as Rodgers put it, in that era - still exploiting Vardy, Barnes, the fast counters. The FA Cup Final was very old school Leicester, with reduced possession, frustrating the opposition, pressing, breaking. The real tippy-tappy stuff was under Puel. I don't wish to discredit it entirely, because he was a half-decent boss for us, but I'm not entirely sure you're representing our post-title success accurately.

 

As for Maresca, we were the most expensive ever FLC team, and yet by the end of that season it was clear that some degree of rethink would be required even if we didn't go up. The fact that the football we'd been told was the only sustainable way forward proved utterly unsustainable was a huge part of our undoing upon promotion.

[Pliskin]

Netherlands proving how easy it is to expose Potter/Martin style sides.

[purpleronnie]

2 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

Netherlands proving how easy it is to expose Potter/Martin style sides.

Its crazy to think they never won a single game in qualyfying, finished bottom, but still find themselves in the world cup.

[PaddyS]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

If we do not get promoted next season, we are toast

I'm confident we'll get promoted next year, but after that I can imagine us lingering about in mid/lower championship for a few seasons while RM is telling the owners that it will all come good, if they hold their nerve and stick with him.

[Ormondroyd8ftTall]

4 hours ago, ceebeefox said:

I don’t think we were tippy tappy under Rodgers in the Maresca mould. Did I see the game differently because we won matches?

Definitely not the same mould, rodgers football was some of the best I have ever seen a leicester side play. Maresca's city spells like it, a couple of Ricardo's goals spring to mind, but not nearly as often as rodgers football at its best

[Muzzy_no7]

54 minutes ago, purpleronnie said:

Its crazy to think they never won a single game in qualyfying, finished bottom, but still find themselves in the world cup.

They then beat Ukraine and Poland though.

[Pliskin]

38 minutes ago, PaddyS said:

I'm confident we'll get promoted next year, but after that I can imagine us lingering about in mid/lower championship for a few seasons while RM is telling the owners that it will all come good, if they hold their nerve and stick with him.

Not a chance we get promoted, I think we will go down again, appointing Martin will just continue the trend. 

[Tomo260]

5 hours ago, PaddyS said:

Unfortunately, I've seen 3 or 4 comments now from people who are close to him saying that he would have been a success if he had been given enough time (at previous clubs),

so I can see him being kept on well beyond his sell-by date if he keeps telling our owners to stick with him.

This is worrying. What a shame

[Fozdog]

I Can’t believe Martin hasn’t lost a game yet

[cropstonfox]

42 minutes ago, Fozdog said:

I Can’t believe Martin hasn’t lost a game yet

 

is he still here?

[purpleronnie]

11 hours ago, Muzzy_no7 said:

They then beat Ukraine and Poland though.

I find it hard to get past their qualiying group, its a qualfying group where they finished botton.  Qualifying through a third rate competition after performing so badly and reaching the finals just doesn't sit right with me.

[ajthefox]

Every time I remember this guy is our manager I feel a bit sick.

[STEVIE B]

13 hours ago, PaddyS said:

I'm confident we'll get promoted next year, but after that I can imagine us lingering about in mid/lower championship for a few seasons while RM is telling the owners that it will all come good, if they hold their nerve and stick with him.

A season or 2 of mid-table mediocrity in The Championship isn't necessarily a bad thing. Out of the spotlight, no dramas etc. I can't remember many seasons in the last 20/25 when our nerves haven't been shredded. 

[Claudio Fannieri]

I have been thinking long and hard about this since his appointment, would he have been my preferred choice, absolutely not because I wanted to see us move away from this style. However I also don’t think this will be the unmitigated disaster some are predicting. 
 

I am at least glad the club have appointed someone fully aligned to the style of play the want to play. The last 4 appointments since Enzo have been a real mixed bag, appointments not necessarily aligned to the style the club want to play and as a result it has been a shambolic mess. At least with Martin coming in the whole club will be aligned and focused on the same thing rather than this patchwork quilt we have seen over the last 2 seasons. 
 

I think whilst there will be bumps in the road, this forthcoming season will be a lot more like the Enzo season where we feel like we are getting back on some sort of right track. 

Edited Sunday at 09:18 by Claudio Fannieri

[MrLuke]

8 minutes ago, Claudio Fannieri said:

I have been thinking long and hard about this since his appointment, would he have been my preferred choice, absolutely not because I wanted to see us move away from this style. However I also don’t think this will be the unmitigated disaster some are predicting. 
 

I am at least glad the club have appointed someone fully aligned to the style of play the want to play. The last 4 appointments since Enzo have been a real mixed bag, appointments not necessarily aligned to the style the club want to play and as a result it has been a shambolic mess. At least with Martin coming in the whole club will be aligned and focused on the same thing rather than this patchwork quilt we have seen over the last 2 seasons. 
 

I think whilst there will be bumps in the road, this forthcoming season will be a lot more like the Enzo season where we feel like we are getting back on some sort of right track. 

I agree. Wouldn't have been my first choice but I'll support him. Get the impression he's a bit of a slow starter while his style is embedded, I think that could be the trickiest time for us. He's a tough job on his hands - a fractured fan base, some players with bad attitudes and poor club leadership. Good luck, you're going to need it.

[dayday]

17 hours ago, VLC86 said:

No, when we did well under Rodger’s we were a fast, free flowing team which aimed to start strongly. Under Maresca, we retained control over that.

 

Under Brendan when we were crap, it was more similar in my opinion.

Rodgers at first was brilliant the press , the movement but for whatever reason he stopped doing what served him well and that was the beginning of his downfall 

 

I also think he got the arse when the board wouldn’t give him any funds in the summer 

 

 

[Long Eaton Fox]

3 relegations in 4 years and crap football,  although promotion was achieved, in the other is not not the style of football I want at this club.

[CWC1983]

It's pretty simple for Martin wherever he goes from now on in his career. 

 

Win games at the start of the season and it buys him time from the stands and social media,   lose or draw games and the pressure comes on straight away and he's gone by November. 

 

Personally, I think he'll do ok this season and take you up.