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The "do they mean us?" thread

By jonthefox, in Leicester City Forum

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ESPN Prem review tearing us a new one in the main:

http://www.espnfc.co.uk/video/espn-fc-tv/86/video/1971912/premier-league-preview-leicester-city?

But meh, what do they know, they haven't even got any decent footage of us - the stuff in this article shows Bamba, Gallagher and Sven!

Absolutely laughable.

First 30 seconds was:

"Leicester won Division One in 1928-29" (we didn't)

"David Nugent didn't cut it in the premier league last time so they will have to find someone else to score goals".

What? So only 1 player is allowed to score goals?! Last season we had plenty who chipped in and most of the sides who finished 9-17th didn't have a player who scored more than 7 or 8 anyway.

Next 2-3 minutes was a generic discussion about promoted sides' struggles. Relevant but not exactly specific or informed.

Final minute, one of the guys realises a Schmeichel plays for us, jumps on it excitedly and then is shooed on by the presenter so he can show a clip of Gallagher, Sven and Bamba.

You expect it from amateurs but ESPN are supposed to be a global sporting network. They could have at least done some proper research and got somebody knowledgeable on. As much as I'm not a massive fan of his it does make you appreciate the job Steve Claridge does in attempting to have something interesting to say about 72 clubs when these guys can't find anything interesting at all to say about 1 of the 20(and I suspect the same can be said for Burnley).

Probably my favourite line was from

Shaka Hislop - "they haven't been in the premier league for a while so nobody knows who their players are". Yeah, least of all you Shaka.

Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo

Julian Joachim Jr Shabadoo

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Why did they even bother putting that video up? So blatantly obvious none of those pundits have any idea who we are. "Kasper Schmeichel is going to need a season like Peter Schmeichel if they've got any chance of staying up" - how insightful. So basically we don't have any defense, and because Nugent wasn't the best striker in the Premier League 6 years ago we are completely relying on the one (sur)name any of you chumps are familiar with.

 

Why can't they just say "we don't follow the Championship, and none of the squad or management are the same as the last time they were in the Premier League so it's difficult to judge how they'll play. Having said that, they got a club record 102 points last season so probably have a better chance of staying up than Burnley and QPR. We don't know about any of their players so he are some clips of them playing football." That would be less embarrassing than pretending to know and obviously not knowing.

Corky

Corky

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Pundits (and fans) seem obsessed with the idea that because Nugent failed six years ago he'll do it again. They are different circumstances, he was brought in for a lot of money at Portsmouth and then the manager didn't fancy him as a player. That won't happen here, he's got a manager who is a huge fan, has been top scorer for three seasons and is one of the top assisters in the side.

 

He might well struggle but he's got a better chance this time, he's a lot older and in form without a large price tag around his neck.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/portsmouth/6965730.stm I could imagine most would find it tough after hearing this.

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Deucalion

Deucalion

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This is all entirely predictable.

 

PL fans and pundits are as blinkered as Blackpool front osses when it comes to anything other than the Premier League.

 

Most PL fans just regurgitate the same old arse licking nonsense that the media perpetuate about the latest ridiculously expensive prima donna signing for a club with a chance of playing in the Champion's League.

 

This is why the O'Neill years were so great, because we didn't follow the script and they didn't like it up 'em !!

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C-man

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Steve Nicol is a fvcking embarrassment. The fat cvnt doesn't know anything about anything in football - try listening to him discuss Italian or German football and you want to kill yourself.

Jimmy

Jimmy

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I can't really put into words how clueless those "pundits" are. 

really well what did they say that was so wrong? Nugent WAS an abject failure before, he could easily be another Chopra, a championship striker, Pearson hasn't ever managed at this level, what they said is perfectly fair

CosbehFox

CosbehFox

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I think the criticism was more for what wasn't said. It was just complete and utter ignorance of our team and the players. Nugent was picked out solely because of the graphic before hand. If they had any idea, they'd know that Vardy is probably more important to us.

C-man

C-man

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really well what did they say that was so wrong? Nugent WAS an abject failure before, he could easily be another Chopra, a championship striker, Pearson hasn't ever managed at this level, what they said is perfectly fair

 

- Pearson is a 'journeyman' manager - absolute horseshit. Leicester and Hull are the only real full time roles he's had in his career.

- Leicester won Div 1 in 1928-29 - I wish.

- 'No-one will know any of Leicester's players' - glad these teams tie up some of their resources in pointless scouting networks then.

- The gap between the bottom of the Prem and the Championship is widening. Is it really? Because I saw Hull and Palace stay up and a hell of a lot of other shite finishing above the dropzone.

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Jimmy

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- Pearson is a 'journeyman' manager - absolute horseshit. Leicester and Hull are the only real full time roles he's had in his career.

- Leicester won Div 1 in 1928-29 - I wish.

- 'No-one will know any of Leicester's players' - glad these teams tie up some of their resources in pointless scouting networks then.

- The gap between the bottom of the Prem and the Championship is widening. Is it really? Because I saw Hull and Palace stay up and a hell of a lot of other shite finishing above the dropzone.

Southampton was a full time job too and he had a long coaching career before being a manager

that was pretty stupid

they may well have scouted them but how often did Mahrez or Knocky rip a team apart the first time we played them and not be quite so good the second time, so it was a little hyperbole but not that far off either

in terms of spending power they are correct especially with FFP, you have to remember that the show is made for a US audience first and foremost so they aren't going to be fully knowledgeable about us, I don't think EPSN even has the FL rights in America.

 

People are always going to tip us for relegation, we're an easy pick, people need to stop being so sensitive over it

Livid

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Southampton was a full time job too and he had a long coaching career before being a manager

that was pretty stupid

they may well have scouted them but how often did Mahrez or Knocky rip a team apart the first time we played them and not be quite so good the second time, so it was a little hyperbole but not that far off either

in terms of spending power they are correct especially with FFP, you have to remember that the show is made for a US audience first and foremost so they aren't going to be fully knowledgeable about us, I don't think EPSN even has the FL rights in America.

 

People are always going to tip us for relegation, we're an easy pick, people need to stop being so sensitive over it

 

I agree, if you take a step back and look at us from a neutrals point of view then we haven't got a lot to signify anything other than a relegation battle. We have a team of young untried players, cast offs from PL teams and players who when they had a chance at the PL didn't quite crack it. We haven't gone crazy with the cheque book in the close season, on paper it doesn't look great.

 

I understand where they are coming form and they may be right but I hope we get the chance to give them the proverbial finger!

RonnieTodger

RonnieTodger

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ESPN video just reeks of ignorance and lack of knowledge. Also, Shaka mentions Pulis being able to keep Palace up because of his experience with Stoke. What experience did he have before Stoke? You have to get it from somewhere and he did a perfectly good job with Stoke in keeping them up and stabilising them. Why can't Nige do the same? They might as well just have 4 teenagers in United and Chelsea shirts talking about how shit anyone is below the top 6.

Kitchandro

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If you can say that about Stoke, a team that made the FA Cup final and played in Europe, then you can say it about every other team apart from Manchester United, Manchester City, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea.

 

Do you think people look at Leicester and remember our time? No. We're just "another Coventry" to most people. Not every fan will know Leicester City won two League Cups, played in Europe and consistently finished top ten because it's the Premier League and most of the "fans" don't look below the top four. Some people don't even know Blackburn have won it. Some people don't realise how big Everton are.

 

Not really.

 

'Played in Europe' is such a pointless phrase. Who did they play? I don't think it was anyone worth playing.

 

You're missing the point. WE remember our time for winning trophies, for having the odd player who lit up the league (Heskey, Izzet for example). Ok so they had one memorable semi-final but still ended up empty handed and have rarely finished in the top ten. Everyone will remember them, contrary to what you're saying, but for playing utterly dreadful football. What can they look back on and be proud of, really? They've been a stain on the league and have won nothing doing so. They just exist.

 

Now my issue is that people are making out they've done so much better than Wigan. In what way?

 

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C-man

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Not really.

 

'Played in Europe' is such a pointless phrase. Who did they play? I don't think it was anyone worth playing.

 

You're missing the point. WE remember our time for winning trophies, for having the odd player who lit up the league (Heskey, Izzet for example). Ok so they had one memorable semi-final but still ended up empty handed and have rarely finished in the top ten. Everyone will remember them, contrary to what you're saying, but for playing utterly dreadful football. What can they look back on and be proud of, really? They've been a stain on the league and have won nothing doing so. They just exist.

 

Now my issue is that people are making out they've done so much better than Wigan. In what way?

 

 

For balance, Stoke did play Valencia....

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MC Prussian

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Better. But 120 in the League? lol Wasn't it 98 in total?

And when did we score 77 goals in the 2003/2004 season?

 

Comical effort by a laughable sports channel. In-depth my ***. lol

But what do you expect from a team of four (!!) covering teams like us in the space of a meagre four minutes.

I also agree that Steve Nicol talks a lot out of his behind.

Jimmy

Jimmy

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And when did we score 77 goals in the 2003/2004 season?

 

Comical effort by a laughable sports channel. In-depth my ***. lol

But what do you expect from a team of four (!!) covering teams like us in the space of a meagre four minutes.

I also agree that Steve Nicol talks a lot out of his behind.

they people in the video didn't write the article

The Doctor

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Southampton was a full time job too and he had a long coaching career before being a manager

 

People are always going to tip us for relegation, we're an easy pick, people need to stop being so sensitive over it

 

He was there for 10 games to keep them up and that's it. Full time in name, but not in nature. Before us, he had 4/5 game spells as caretaker, and that's it. To call him a journeyman manager when he's had... 3 management jobs is ridiculous.

Jimmy

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He was there for 10 games to keep them up and that's it. Full time in name, but not in nature. Before us, he had 4/5 game spells as caretaker, and that's it. To call him a journeyman manager when he's had... 3 management jobs is ridiculous.

they didn't they called him a journeyman coach

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