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By LCFC_FAN_1995, in General Football and Sport

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14 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Wilder is a big puncher but we can’t forget Fury is the first decent fighter he’s fought. His record is misleading to say the least. Fury for me comfortably beats AJ too. Not sure about USYK, that’s very intriguing.

I think Fury could beat Usyk fairly comfortably, both I suppose are purist boxers, whereas AJ is more of a puncher/athlete hence why Usyk picked him apart like a spider losing its legs. That wouldn't happen with Fury.

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6 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Wilder is a big puncher but we can’t forget Fury is the first decent fighter he’s fought. His record is misleading to say the least. Fury for me comfortably beats AJ too. Not sure about USYK, that’s very intriguing.

This is the exact point Fury made before their first fight, when Wilder was boasting about his record. As Fury said, Wilder's only fought "tin cans" to pad his record, and thats meant he's never needed to box. Surprising to say about a one time world champion, but Wilder can't box. He tried to at the beginning of the fight, using his jab, but abandoned that and got schooled again. Even his much vaunted one punch power couldn't put Fury away. Fury will unite all the belts and will be known as one of the greatest heavyweights ever.

Nalis

Nalis

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Now I've slept on it, I cant help but feel like Wilder is getting too much credit, from myself included originally. Apart from two, possibly three, rounds Fury was in total control and Wilder's saving grace was not giving up despite obviously losing.

MPH

MPH

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9 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Now I've slept on it, I cant help but feel like Wilder is getting too much credit, from myself included originally. Apart from two, possibly three, rounds Fury was in total control and Wilder's saving grace was not giving up despite obviously losing.


 

I was about crying in that 4th round. Any other heavy weight on the planet wouldn’t have got up from that.

 

 

he reminds me of a basketballer who can only score 3 pointers. Sure, It will win you games but it’s not really playing basketball is it?

Duquesne Whistle

Duquesne Whistle

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11 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Now I've slept on it, I cant help but feel like Wilder is getting too much credit, from myself included originally. Apart from two, possibly three, rounds Fury was in total control and Wilder's saving grace was not giving up despite obviously losing.

I'm not the biggest Wilder fan, but I don't think you can give him too much credit in this instance. Fury was obviously the better boxer in all 3 contests, but Wilder really did go out on his shield. I can't help but have admiration for that. He did his best, but he was already knackered when that horrible, thudding right hand landed and finally ended it. It takes immense courage to get off the floor and keep getting outboxed until you finally can't get up. A limited boxer, a bit of a big mouth, but an undeniably brave boxer.

Sly

Sly

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20 minutes ago, Duquesne Whistle said:

I'm not the biggest Wilder fan, but I don't think you can give him too much credit in this instance. Fury was obviously the better boxer in all 3 contests, but Wilder really did go out on his shield. I can't help but have admiration for that. He did his best, but he was already knackered when that horrible, thudding right hand landed and finally ended it. It takes immense courage to get off the floor and keep getting outboxed until you finally can't get up. A limited boxer, a bit of a big mouth, but an undeniably brave boxer.

Wilder is the Kimbo Slice of Boxing. Aggressive, powerful, cocky but when matched up against a pure boxer he was always going to struggle. People talk about him as the 2nd best heavyweight on the planet, however I’m not convinced he is. He’s just got that power that can knock anyone down. I think what has struck me about Fury, that I hadn’t given him credit for before this trilogy, is the heart to get off the floor. He didn’t look tired either this morning, so his stamina is on point. Fury isn’t the biggest puncher in the division, however for a man of his size, he’s a great athlete. 
 

Wilder needs to rebuild if he can be bothered to go again. He needs to stop padding that record and take on the likes of Ruiz, Whyte, Parker, Wallin, Povetkin and maybe Joyce.  
 

Overall, Wallin did more damage and gave Fury a harder fight for 12 rounds, than Wilder did in three fights. 

Duquesne Whistle

Duquesne Whistle

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3 minutes ago, Sly said:

Wilder is the Kimbo Slice of Boxing. Aggressive, powerful, cocky but when matched up against a pure boxer he was always going to struggle. People talk about him as the 2nd best heavyweight on the planet, however I’m not convinced he is. He’s just got that power that can knock anyone down. I think what has struck me about Fury, that I hadn’t given him credit for before this trilogy, is the heart to get off the floor. He didn’t look tired either this morning, so his stamina is on point. Fury isn’t the biggest puncher in the division, however for a man of his size, he’s a great athlete. 
 

Wilder needs to rebuild if he can be bothered to go again. He needs to stop padding that record and take on the likes of Ruiz, Whyte, Parker, Wallin, Povetkin and maybe Joyce.  
 

Overall, Wallin did more damage and gave Fury a harder fight for 12 rounds, than Wilder did in three fights. 

I don't disagree with anything you've said there. I just think Wilder deserved a lot of credit, for his courage, rather than his boxing. He sure ain't a quitter.

 

It depends how much Wilder wants the money as to whether he continues. It's a fall from grace and he won't be able to command as big a purse in future. Will he have the desire? At 35, he has some time, but it's unlikely he'll be any better a boxer at any point now. He should go home, retire and count his money. Sadly, that's not the usual path fighters take.

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Sly

Sly

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Just now, Duquesne Whistle said:

I don't disagree with anything you've said there. I just think Wilder deserved a lot of credit, for his courage, rather than his boxing. He sure ain't a quitter.

 

It depends how much Wilder wants the money as to whether he continues. It's a fall from grace and he won't be able to command as big a purse in future. Will he have the desire? At 35, he has some time, but it's unlikely he'll be any better a boxer at any point now. He should go home, retire and count his money. Sadly, that's not the usual path fighters take.

Yes, fully agree. 
 

Wilder looked done from around 6 onward, however he hung in there and showed a lot of heart. 
 

Like you say, at his age, will he have the desire. His boxing ability isn’t going to improve significantly. What else does he really have to prove.

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Bert

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Well worth getting up for. Great fight, both took some big punches. Surprised Wilder’s head is still on his shoulders after that KO. 

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Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot

Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot

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Think people ar underestimating quite how well Fury recovered after that 4th round. Convinced no other fighter on the planet gets up and finishes the job after that 4th round. Yes Wilder is a limited boxer but I think in thst condition he knocks out any other boxer on earth. Fury is just an absloute monster I would love to watch him systematically pick apart and destroy AJ but AJ will never take that fight. I think White will give Fury the most problems out of all the other boxers out there. The day he retires will be a sad day for boxing. Can definitely see him coming back in his 40s and absolutely battering whoever the new champ is. 

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The Horse's Mouth

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2 hours ago, SheppyFox said:

Wilder is a big puncher but we can’t forget Fury is the first decent fighter he’s fought. His record is misleading to say the least. Fury for me comfortably beats AJ too. Not sure about USYK, that’s very intriguing.

You on crack little boy 

Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot

Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot

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Bit harsh. Wilder hasn't really fought anyone who's genuine class. I do think he beats everyone in the heavyweight division bar Fury though. For someone who isn't a great boxer he's certainly got it in him to beat almost anyone his heart is huge fair play to him. Absolute arse hole though which is a shame. I had a bet on fury to win in the 4th 18/1 I thought eh up here we go ca ching and fury got too cocky buggered my bet but glad it happened really as it made for a great spectacle. 

STEVIE B

STEVIE B

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Fury’s main asset is his physical presence. 6’9” gives him him a massive advantage. 
Valuev from Russia was similar, a 7 foot tall, very limited world champ. 

lt wasn't Tyson at his best but he has been so inactive (7 bouts in nearly 7 years). 
He will need to improve against Usyk, he can’t keep relying on his size. 
I’m not a huge fan of Fury, or Wilder due to his padded record, but fair play, both put on a great show. 
 

MPH

MPH

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16 minutes ago, STEVIE B said:

Fury’s main asset is his physical presence. 6’9” gives him him a massive advantage. 
Valuev from Russia was similar, a 7 foot tall, very limited world champ. 

lt wasn't Tyson at his best but he has been so inactive (7 bouts in nearly 7 years). 
He will need to improve against Usyk, he can’t keep relying on his size. 
I’m not a huge fan of Fury, or Wilder due to his padded record, but fair play, both put on a great show. 
 


 

I find this post mind boggling. Very harsh.

 

 

this wasn’t his best fight but he absolutely controlled wilder for 3 fights now.  He was better in his last fight but his boxing skills are unmatched.

Andy11111

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I love everything about Fury, the fights, the trash talk, absolutely fantastic. Everyone at first was saying how they weren't bothered about a third, I was looking forward to it, couldn't wait for Fury to spark that dosser out, pure class, maybe AJ could fight Wilder, could name it dosser v dosser, would be a good laugh.

Sly

Sly

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1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Fury would **** up usyk 

I’m not convinced he does. It’ll be a very technical fight and I’d think it would go the distance. 

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MPH

MPH

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26 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

Fury fanboys are very weird.


 

when he first truly burst onto the scene he was in AJs shadow. I was a big AJ fan and I just saw Fury as a loudmouth and limited boxer. I thought he had limited skills, limited power and was only getting attention because of his size. 
 

i wouldn’t call myself a Fury fanboy but he has totally won me over. He has incredible skill for a big guy and quite nimble too. He wasn’t at his best last night but he hadn’t long ago had Covid, he spent 2 weeks in hospital because his daughter was sick and he still managed to dominate and take the best that the hardest heavyweight hitter on the planet could throw at him.

 

 

I have been impressed with him the last few years.

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