Mark_w Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 tl;dr I wish I'd thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Langley Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 I wish I'd thought of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 tl;dr m :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 I have no idea where we will finish this year, but i do know one thing and that is we will not be involved in a relegation battle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dames Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 Midtable. Pearson as much good as he's done for us in the past, he is still a predictable and boring manager. He favors a type of playing style and type of player that just isn't good enough to challenge for promotion. This hold what we have, keep it simple mentality won't really get us up to the top end of the table but i don't think it will put us in any real danger either. Also his inability to drop his favorites when they clearly hinder the team due to lack of form or whatever is frustrating (Gally, Wellens, King, Dyer being the main culprits.) The activity this summer has been predictable Pearson. Solid yet unspectacular signings and the shipping out of talented yet temperamental players. I think City will be lucky to break top half this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 Ive got us down to finish top. Call me the optimist - but I had us down for 7th last year and was slated. Not claiming to be some psychic like. I havent read every post but the general jist I am getting is - we will finish play-offs/just outside because we dont have player x,y or z and player a, b or c isnt good enough. For me, the squad is very important and probably determines the section of the league you will end up in - i.e. bottom half, mid table, top half but I think the manager makes the difference when it comes down to it. I had Southampton down to finish second to WHU last year. This had got very little to do with the playing squad. It was the manager. I know people complain about Pearson but that league one season and subsequent championship playoff season have shown me enough to say hes good enough to win the league with this group. Forget the standard of league one for a moment, and just look at how he got us into the habit of consistently winning, whether it be by 3 or 4 goals or by the skin of our teeth, we ground out results, both home and away. Granted Micky Adams was not exactly Mourinho and did the same in the championship . . and the argument would be the squad was THAT good the teletubbies could have got them promoted so my point in manager being the difference is weakened in that example. You can see in Pearsons eyes when he has lost a game how personally he takes it. As stupid as it sounds the 5-1 defeat against Forest actually warmed me to him by the fact at how sick he sounded after the game and the battering we handed out in the return leg. I find like SAF you actually find that what sets them apart is how they react when they've lost a game rather than how they react when they have won. Look at what has happened to our momentum since he left. With more a less the same squad Sousa had us bottom of the league. If he can get that squad into 5th then I dont see how he cant go 4 places better with this team. I understand that he didnt do the business last season but I think there was alot more to sort out then we and himself realised. I trust Pearson more than I ever could with Sven. I have full faith in him and thats why I see us winning the league with him at the helm. And as for the "boring" football I was very rarely bored in the last full season he had in charge. Lets just win and everything else will take care of itself. So top two for me. I struggle to think of a good reason why not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend_in_blue Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 I'd struggle to think of a reason once we have decent CB cover, a LM/LW with pace and a dominating CM player. Until we have those I think you're way off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox Posted 30 July 2012 Share Posted 30 July 2012 I'd struggle to think of a reason once we have decent CB cover, a LM/LW with pace and a dominating CM player. Until we have those I think you're way off the mark. Fair enough. We shall see. Agree on the LW point. CB and CM I am pretty content with truth be told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstown92 Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 Play-off positions, I reckon the league will be really tough but we will play more as a team and I believe we will be in the top 6 by the end of the season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 Ive got us down to finish top. Call me the optimist - but I had us down for 7th last year and was slated. Not claiming to be some psychic like. I havent read every post but the general jist I am getting is - we will finish play-offs/just outside because we dont have player x,y or z and player a, b or c isnt good enough. For me, the squad is very important and probably determines the section of the league you will end up in - i.e. bottom half, mid table, top half but I think the manager makes the difference when it comes down to it. I had Southampton down to finish second to WHU last year. This had got very little to do with the playing squad. It was the manager. I know people complain about Pearson but that league one season and subsequent championship playoff season have shown me enough to say hes good enough to win the league with this group. Forget the standard of league one for a moment, and just look at how he got us into the habit of consistently winning, whether it be by 3 or 4 goals or by the skin of our teeth, we ground out results, both home and away. Granted Micky Adams was not exactly Mourinho and did the same in the championship . . and the argument would be the squad was THAT good the teletubbies could have got them promoted so my point in manager being the difference is weakened in that example. You can see in Pearsons eyes when he has lost a game how personally he takes it. As stupid as it sounds the 5-1 defeat against Forest actually warmed me to him by the fact at how sick he sounded after the game and the battering we handed out in the return leg. I find like SAF you actually find that what sets them apart is how they react when they've lost a game rather than how they react when they have won. Look at what has happened to our momentum since he left. With more a less the same squad Sousa had us bottom of the league. If he can get that squad into 5th then I dont see how he cant go 4 places better with this team. I understand that he didnt do the business last season but I think there was alot more to sort out then we and himself realised. I trust Pearson more than I ever could with Sven. I have full faith in him and thats why I see us winning the league with him at the helm. And as for the "boring" football I was very rarely bored in the last full season he had in charge. Lets just win and everything else will take care of itself. So top two for me. I struggle to think of a good reason why not. You say Adams had a good squad, but I think the squad Pearson had in League 1 was far too good for that level of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 About eight or ninth hope we finish higher but lets be realistic. It'll be the same as last season have so many chances to gain on fifth and sixth place but we'll fail to do so. Please prove me wrong Leicester! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danizen Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 The activity this summer has been predictable Pearson. Solid yet unspectacular signings and the shipping out of talented yet temperamental players. That's ridiculous. Bamba and Mills both flattered to decieve and both were very average. St. Ledger earned a reprieve which suggests either Mills was stubborn or NP didn't think the situation was worth saving. Last season, we played some of the best teams off the park but were too inconsistent which would suggest the problem is pyschological. That's why I welcome the departure of the 'temperamental' (read: weak-minded) Matt Mills and the lazy, narcissistic Bamba. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 You say Adams had a good squad, but I think the squad Pearson had in League 1 was far too good for that level of football Yeah thats a fair point but then I think the same could be said of a host of managers who were managing the likes of Forest, Sheff Utd, Leeds, Charlton etc - and they didnt bounce straight back up top of the league. Theres always an argument against though I agree I mean look what Holloway has done at Blackpool and how poor he did here. Some managers do badly at some places and others well at others but for me, I dont see a good reason to be negative about Pearson. Like I said I dont even find his game boring like 90% of others seem to. Anyway I guess we'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 Ive got us down to finish top. Call me the optimist - but I had us down for 7th last year and was slated. Not claiming to be some psychic like. I havent read every post but the general jist I am getting is - we will finish play-offs/just outside because we dont have player x,y or z and player a, b or c isnt good enough. For me, the squad is very important and probably determines the section of the league you will end up in - i.e. bottom half, mid table, top half but I think the manager makes the difference when it comes down to it. I had Southampton down to finish second to WHU last year. This had got very little to do with the playing squad. It was the manager. I know people complain about Pearson but that league one season and subsequent championship playoff season have shown me enough to say hes good enough to win the league with this group. Forget the standard of league one for a moment, and just look at how he got us into the habit of consistently winning, whether it be by 3 or 4 goals or by the skin of our teeth, we ground out results, both home and away. Granted Micky Adams was not exactly Mourinho and did the same in the championship . . and the argument would be the squad was THAT good the teletubbies could have got them promoted so my point in manager being the difference is weakened in that example. You can see in Pearsons eyes when he has lost a game how personally he takes it. As stupid as it sounds the 5-1 defeat against Forest actually warmed me to him by the fact at how sick he sounded after the game and the battering we handed out in the return leg. I find like SAF you actually find that what sets them apart is how they react when they've lost a game rather than how they react when they have won. Look at what has happened to our momentum since he left. With more a less the same squad Sousa had us bottom of the league. If he can get that squad into 5th then I dont see how he cant go 4 places better with this team. I understand that he didnt do the business last season but I think there was alot more to sort out then we and himself realised. I trust Pearson more than I ever could with Sven. I have full faith in him and thats why I see us winning the league with him at the helm. And as for the "boring" football I was very rarely bored in the last full season he had in charge. Lets just win and everything else will take care of itself. So top two for me. I struggle to think of a good reason why not. Whilst I think automatic promotion is probably a little out of our reach, it's nice to see someone who isn't downbeat about our chances like most on here seem to be. Pearson has a great track record in the Championship, and that's generally with clubs who have a fraction of the amount we have to spend. I think he has the potential to be a really good Premier League manager one day, and like you I personally enjoyed the football we played under him first time round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00nie Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 Whilst I think automatic promotion is probably a little out of our reach, it's nice to see someone who isn't downbeat about our chances like most on here seem to be. Pearson has a great track record in the Championship, and that's generally with clubs who have a fraction of the amount we have to spend. I think he has the potential to be a really good Premier League manager one day, and like you I personally enjoyed the football we played under him first time round. how many teams has he took up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 how many teams has he took up ? I'm basing his track record on what was expected of him, it has never been promotion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountesthorpeFox Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 how many teams has he took up ? How many cups has David Moyes won? Doesnt he have a great track record? Success is relative. Plus come May the answer will be one. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCCHRIS Posted 31 July 2012 Share Posted 31 July 2012 Voted playoffs but (although said every year) the league looks very hard this year so probably mid table more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 1 August 2012 Share Posted 1 August 2012 Below Shrewsbury, above Kettering and about level with York? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zingari Posted 1 August 2012 Share Posted 1 August 2012 Probably above the teams with fewer points , but below the teams with more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teblin Posted 1 August 2012 Share Posted 1 August 2012 Voted top 2. Ever the optimist. Mainly best on the fact I'm not having a season ticket for thr first time in 10 seasons as I have moved too far away, so they are bound to have a good season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 1 August 2012 Share Posted 1 August 2012 I've voted midtable but I'm really not at all certain and we could just as easily finish higher or lower. There are a lot of things that concern me though and I really don't see a top two finish as being at all likely at the moment. We have so many unanswered questions. Two of our summer signings have had a dodgy injury history of late. Personally I think a lot depends on us not conceding as we don't have enough attacking/creative options in midfield as the squad stands at the moment. I'm far from convinced that either Morgan or SSL are anywhere near good enough to get us out of this league. I don't see that we have addressed the midfield problems where we are frankly big on numbers but low on quality. Marshall looked good but at the moment he has that novelty value where other teams have not worked him out. When they do and they will the question will be whether he has enough extra quality to stay ahead of the game and here I'm not sure. The main issues for me with the midfield are ball retention and movement off the ball. Last season we were poor at both and unless we sort them out we won't be going up. The strikers are also an enigma. Nugent is relibale but no one on here knows which Beckford will turn up or even if he will still be here. Vardy remains a gamble at this stage though he may well turn out to be a great signing. Otherwise I don't see our strikers contributing many goals. However, as anyone who watched the transformation under Brian Little will testify anything can happen though I think the game has moved on since then and though big blokes with big hearts can get you so far the sides that tend to go up have a nucleus of players who could hold their own in the premier league and are in sides who play with pace and quality and who tend to score a lot of goals. Do we have these attributes or even a manger who can deliver them? At the moment the jury is well and truly out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 1 August 2012 Share Posted 1 August 2012 Bottom half. Our squad is poor and the players that have come in add very little in terms of quality. Another miserable frustrating season awaits. Great job Nige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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