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chili_con_carne

Beckford - will he go or will he stay?

By chili_con_carne, in Leicester City Forum

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smudger63

smudger63

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Have I said he is?

They tell me Becks has never scored more than 9 goals above league one, which is a start.

Not at the moment, how many times do I need to say Waghorn needs a loan to sort himself out? And for us to see what he's got.

Well that says everything.

Because every striker misses chances, did you not see the Vardy thread where he got ripped a new one after Charlton?

Undoubtedly, really? Then why haven't they popped up when he's missed shit loads himself?

Beckford may not have scored more than 9 league goals above League 1 level, he did however score 8 goals in his premier league season, not to shabby for someone who only started in 15 games that season.

Has Nugent really done that much better than Beckford since he has been here?

He actually scored 1 more goal than Beckford last season, but of course you don`t count cup goals do you.

Maybe Nugent feels the same way!

Nugent started last season well, but faded in the second half of the season, and Beckford was poor at the start of last season, but got better in the second half of the season.

Early days yet this season, but for me, the front places are very much up for grabs.

I certainly see no reason to be favouring Nugent over Beckford at the moment, but then that says everything doesn`t it!

Ashley

Ashley

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From the same person that said about Bart as Beckfords replacement, Gallagher out and Schlupp on out on loan... Beckford not to Huddersfield but West Ham?

Happy Fox

Happy Fox

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Why are people blaming Sven for wages it was Andrew Neville that was the transfer negotiator and I am sure the Thais would have sanctioned the deal on there watch.

Danny the Fox 95

Danny the Fox 95

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Think of the opponent's goal as a fanny.

Nooge and Becks - would loob the labia, tease the clit, and slip in the length with the helmet nudging the g spot to climax.

Schlupp - like a youngster he'd be too eagre and shoot in seconds

Futacs - no messing or style but he'd smash her back doors in

Waggy? - he'd go route 1 but miss and end up in her wrong 'un.

Waggy would miss it and he'd end up in her belly button lol

Legend_in_blue

Legend_in_blue

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Sven has royally screwed us with all these ridiculous wages

One of these days the penny will drop and all fans will realise that his appointment was a one way ticket to complete ruin. Thank goodness it ended when it did.

Kitchandro

Kitchandro

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Why are people blaming Sven for wages it was Andrew Neville that was the transfer negotiator and I am sure the Thais would have sanctioned the deal on there watch.

This. Some people like to believe the people running the club are our mates and Sven is some sort of evil mastermind.

glenny_fox

glenny_fox

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BBC Radio Leeds reports: "Ex-Leeds United striker Jermaine Beckford is one of the players being targeted by Huddersfield Town to replace Jordan Rhodes. But the terms of Beckford's current deal at Leicester City mean that negotiations are likely to continue for most of today - we understand a loan deal for Beckford could be on the cards, instead of a permanent signing.

"A move for fellow Foxes forward Paul Gallagher now looks to be off."

cc_star

cc_star

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Just shows what wages we're paying him.

Also can't see why people understand that Sven was directly involved, it was his list of targets that the board backed, he could signed them earlier in the summer like NP did so we didn't have pay a kings ransom at 10:59pm.

He also could have drawn up a list that was sustainable and that we wouldn't just have to get off the books if they' proved not to be good enough to get in the first 11

basically, regardless of who signed the cheques, they were signed because they were backing what their man told them would get promotion.

davieG

davieG

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And that's the difference between bigger clubs and minows.

Or the difference between a club living within it's natural means and one that's lost all sense of proportion and prepared to put the club at risk for some short term glory and monetary gain

marty78

marty78

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Just shows what wages we're paying him.

Also can't see why people understand that Sven was directly involved, it was his list of targets that the board backed, he could signed them earlier in the summer like NP did so we didn't have pay a kings ransom at 10:59pm.

He also could have drawn up a list that was sustainable and that we wouldn't just have to get off the books if they' proved not to be good enough to get in the first 11

basically, regardless of who signed the cheques, they were signed because they were backing what their man told them would get promotion.

Their decision was the final one and so it is their responsibility in my eyes. I think Sven was clueless personally but to blame him for our outlay is harsh. I very much doubt he held a gun to anyone's head and said 'get me Matt Mills and Jermaine Beckford'. Sven was their man because they made him so and they followed his advice of their own free will. The club made a mistake bringing in Sven and another by sanctioning his signings but it was their mistake and they should take responsibility.

Babylon

Babylon

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Has Nugent really done that much better than Beckford since he has been here?

Yes, as even without a goal he still puts in a shift. Where JB usually goes missing.

He actually scored 1 more goal than Beckford last season, but of course you don`t count cup goals do you.

No I don't when we are talking about this level. Burton scored 4 against us, doesn't mean their strikers are championship level.

Nugent started last season well, but faded in the second half of the season, and Beckford was poor at the start of last season, but got better in the second half of the season.

They both scored 7 league goals post Christmas. Which is just about the only decent shout for giving Becks more time.

Babylon

Babylon

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Their decision was the final one and so it is their responsibility in my eyes. I think Sven was clueless personally but to blame him for our outlay is harsh. I very much doubt he held a gun to anyone's head and said 'get me Matt Mills and Jermaine Beckford'. Sven was their man because they made him so and they followed his advice of their own free will. The club made a mistake bringing in Sven and another by sanctioning his signings but it was their mistake and they should take responsibility.

The board and Sven take the blame. Svens picks the targets and will have known what he's paying, but if the board made him think that's all fine then it's harsh to blame him entirely.

Happy Fox

Happy Fox

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The board and Sven take the blame. Svens picks the targets and will have known what he's paying, but if the board made him think that's all fine then it's harsh to blame him entirely.

The board includes Andrew Neville right? I personally felt he was out of his depth when he was made football director but that is just my opinion

cc_star

cc_star

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Their decision was the final one and so it is their responsibility in my eyes. I think Sven was clueless personally but to blame him for our outlay is harsh. I very much doubt he held a gun to anyone's head and said 'get me Matt Mills and Jermaine Beckford'. Sven was their man because they made him so and they followed his advice of their own free will. The club made a mistake bringing in Sven and another by sanctioning his signings but it was their mistake and they should take responsibility.

Well yes I agree, they didn't have to back him to the extent that he did, but Sven was here for 2 reasons a) We paid him £3m b) He was able to bring in who he wanted that we could get hold of.

If he there wasn't the understanding that he'd have the full backing (& by that I mean chequebook as is Sven's style) then he wouldn't be here

Sven could have started a Swansea/Martinez style revolution, perhaps the owners were wrong not to take this longer view, but instead he tried to emulate his Lazio success where he outspent the whole of Europe which worked for him there, but didn't work in the Championship.

Babylon

Babylon

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The board includes Andrew Neville right? I personally felt he was out of his depth when he was made football director but that is just my opinion

No I do not include him in that at all. Why? Because he is just doing what he is asked. If he is asked by the manager to sign a player he will setup the deal and it will be approved by the manager or someone above him. We don't know what his brief may have been, what concerns he may have raised if any. We know Sven picked the players he knew would cost a lot, and common sense would say the board would have needed to approve it. If they didn't, then I still blame them for not knowing what was being done to their budget.

Could he have negotiated a better deal, well maybe. But he's not choosing the targets or approving them.

marty78

marty78

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The board and Sven take the blame. Svens picks the targets and will have known what he's paying, but if the board made him think that's all fine then it's harsh to blame him entirely.

Would Sven of known all the details of transfer fees, player wages, bonus' and agent fees? Would he have negotiated with clubs or agents to come to agreement on all of those things? Unlikely but I don't know for sure.

The blame for the teams performances seemed to lye squarely at the feet of Sven and few of the club officials responsible for finances took much stick as far as I can remember. That he has to share the blame for them not doing their job, on top of complete blame for him not doing his, seems unfair to me.

I don't know the ins and outs of how we conducted our business so I will leave it there. It is just my opinion.

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