Cropwellfox Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 It's a sign of FFP starting to bite - am surprised that Dyer and maybe Morgan hasn't been given an extra year but Schmeichel will walk away unless we go up and the rest won't be able to get a contract anywhere near what they are on now anywhere. The players will not like it as even in the summer there's no guarantee of getting a contract immediately any more (ie Carlton Cole) but that's the way football is heading. They need to stop moaning and get on with playing consistently well. As for NP, if we don't go up this year, that's 3 failed attempts and will be interesting to see the range of feelings on here about him then.
Dickov22 Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 The same John Percy who in the summer said Drinkwater was available for transfer.
Bayfox Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Was there an exodus in the summer? No, we just turned down any offers. Which we can do again. I'm sure players do want contracts sorting, it's only natural. Just as I'm sure this wouldn't be the first time the media has been used to try and press the issue. apart from the players can sign pre contracts elsewhere. Would you be happy with half a squad with an eye somewhere else?
MrSpaM Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I honestly can't see any teams in the Championship paying them anywhere near what we are paying for them, and how many players would be able to walk into a premiership side right now? I expect a couple to walk if we fail to get promotion, but even if they had to take a pay cut to stay they'd still be earning more than most championship teams would be paying them. Honestly can't see a mass exodus of players should we fail to get promoted.
LCCFox96 Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I should imagine the manager will get a new deal around March at which point I reckon most of the playErs (bar probably Kasper) will follow him and sign up. The owners won't risk loosing Pearson after the quality job he has done hear. If most of the players are to sign up again later on in the season that leaves us just January to negotiate - we can just reject any offers received for them. I'm sure most would be happy to complete the season if were not for the contract situation leaving them insecure. Also they say they need to wait before the resign the players to make sure we fit FFP. But if we lose the players on loan like danns, waghorn etc and those not getting a look in like Whitbread and SSL then that must bring us really close to FFP. At which point we may be in a better position to manuvere in the transfer window bringing in cheap replacements and we will have a bit more flexibility in offering wages providing the players don't demand more (I think most would be more than happy to keep the same terms). I think this whole situation will become clearer after the January window/when we get our business done as we will see who we have left and what finance we have available. I'm afraid for now we must accept its a waiting game.
Callabinho Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I used to respect John Percy. And why did Stringer have to comment on it being "interesting"
Babylon Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 apart from the players can sign pre contracts elsewhere. Would you be happy with half a squad with an eye somewhere else? And what does that have to do with what I said? The only way there can be a January "exodus" is if we agree to sell. I would rather we tie up contracts now, but if we are still losing a lot of money each year, we are limited with what we can do.
Lionator Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I used to respect John Percy. And why did Stringer have to comment on it being "interesting" Because Stringer absolutely loves to stir things up.
Corky Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 So it's 5 players? Not the reported 11? Five main players, the others will comprise of reserves like Waghorn, Whitbread, Danns, Gallagher etc. Dyer seems happy to just keep playing for us, Schmeichel hasn't said too much about the situation, only Nugent, Morgan and to a lesser extent Konchesky have openly spoken about it.
Poznan34 Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Sign Pearson up and the rest will follow hopefully.
shade Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 bottom lining it, not many of the players would get snapped up by premier league teams, they won't get better contracts in this division. they need to accept that the club are waiting to see if they bottle it again, it's a non story.
Soar Fox Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I think Kasper will be off even if we do get promotion. Wasn't one if the reasons Leeds sold was because of his refusal to sign a contract extension.
Bettsj2 Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Thinking the same Jonezy - surely if we gave them new contracts with big bonuses if we reach the Prem, this would be an incentive to play their hearts out. They could also have release clauses if they want to move on. I suppose the only question is, does Pearson feel these players are good enough for the Prem and if new contracts are offered, they may be of little use if we do make the Prem and we'd be stuck with them (unless F**est want to buy them up). I think the problem with that is they dont want certain players to stay. By offering contracts to those they do, they alienate the ones they dont which will cause unrest as those players wont leave until the end of the season. This really is the only fair way, unfortunately its also the riskiest.
Leicesterpool Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I actually can see Morgan going back to Forest :xmassad: Nugent i think is staying put! The only players i can see leaving this January is Morgan, Waghorn, Bakayogo (loan) & Gallagher. Losing Morgan would be a huge step back, we'd struggle to find a good replacement.
sdb Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Just because JP is reporting unpopular things doesn't make them untrue! It'd be nice if these things were kept quiet but it's part and parcel of the game now and it is his job to report such things! Get NP signed up and push through to May with the players knowing they'll get good contracts if we make the prem, surely?!
Crinklyfox Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 The owners have put a lot of money into the club and may wish to only reward success. No surprise then if they don't award new contracts until out future is certain. If we do go up NP gets a new contract, the players gets new contracts with Premiership bonuses and everyone's happy. If we don't go up then most of the players will get new contracts at Championship rates, which will probably be better at City than most other clubs in the league. If certain players want to leave now for a club with less Premiership potential that's up to them, but why would they do it unless they believe that they aren't good enough for the Prem?
jamesmilner Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 kasper imo is the only player with prem teams truly willing to sign him . the rest are kidding themselves . with what this club has to offer next season if we go up is there for all to see but if we stay in the championship , we are in a win , win , situation . what other team can offer wages/facilities we have ? only teams with parachute payments , but they wont sign these players . i cant see a massive problem even if pearson goes (even tho i dont want that) due to no debt and a good club attracting quality . we are in a good position imo . these players must perform for a good deal whichever way it goes . if they arent re -signed they are in the window to sell themselves . chill .
Jace Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Why are so many clubs after Kasper when apparently every goal we have conceded this season is his fault for to saving it?
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 At first when I read this I was a little concerned given the fact that JP seems to be fairly reliable. Then I started to think where he might have got his information from... At first glance it's easy to suspect that he may have got this information from a player/a source close to a player, but then the more I thought about it, it reads exactly like information that could be passed into the media by an agent to try and stir things up. This is the time of year that agents earn their money and at the moment there seems to be a lot of pressure being put onto the club regarding this contract situation. The club are, quite rightly, clealry happy to deal with this in their own time. Pearson has come out in his own words and said to The Mercury that this isn't bothering him and the only ones it seems to be bothering are Morgan and Nugent who quite clearly would like a new deal and the associated financial rewards. Both, let's not forget, have history of walking on frees or refusing to sign new deals. So the pressure it would seem is coming from the wrong places. It's not Pearson demanding that his squad be kept together, it's not other players in the squad who have contracts beyond this season wanting to see these players stay, it's essentially Nugent and Morgan. Schmeichel and Konchesky are in the same situation but have both handled it far more professionally and with more dignity and respect. And both have delivered better performances of late than Nugent and (Saturday aside) Morgan. Schmeichel in particular has the correct attitude of applying himself, giving his all and seeing what the end of the season brings. If we're not promoted he can walk away with a clear conscience having given his best and earned the right to play at a higher level (and possibly a higher wage). The way this is being handled makes me think that I couldn't care less therefore whether the 11 stay or go. The club should do what they want and not pander to the demands or whines of players. From a footballing perspective I'd like to see Pearson, Schmeichel, Dyer and Morgan stay but the rest I couldn't care less about. If we go up this season then those who deserve to play in The Premiership will do, if we don't then those players will have failed a second time to get promotion and wouldn't be deserving of anything like the money they are on at the moment. As long as we give Pearson time I have no doubt that he could easily replace any of the 11 that leave at the end of this year.
sylofox Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 I think Kasper will be off even if we do get promotion. Wasn't one if the reasons Leeds sold was because of his refusal to sign a contract extension. Nothing to do with sven who knew him and what he was earing saying we can double that and some? I think Kasper will be off even if we do get promotion. Wasn't one if the reasons Leeds sold was because of his refusal to sign a contract extension. Nothing to do with sven who knew him and what he was earing saying we can double that and some?
Guest Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 The only thing I find odd is that it's standard practice that every Championship player has a clause in their contract giving them around a 40% pay rise should they reach the Premier League. There's no reason to have to wait on the division when it comes to contracts as within the contracts themselves there is demonstrable differentiation between Championship status and Premier League status. We could still offer contacts now to Dyer, Nuge, Kasper and Wes on reduced terms and they'd get pay rises if we get promoted. I can't see why we wouldn't do that.
Stan Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 Wow! It appears that we must be the only promotion-chasing Championship club with several players out of contract in the Summer. Hold on a cotton-picking minute! There are plenty of teams in a similar situation: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/spieler/vertragsende/basics_GB2.html Conclusion - John Percy is shit-stirring.
Bettsj2 Posted 24 December 2013 Posted 24 December 2013 The only thing I find odd is that it's standard practice that every Championship player has a clause in their contract giving them around a 40% pay rise should they reach the Premier League. There's no reason to have to wait on the division when it comes to contracts as within the contracts themselves there is demonstrable differentiation between Championship status and Premier League status. We could still offer contacts now to Dyer, Nuge, Kasper and Wes on reduced terms and they'd get pay rises if we get promoted. I can't see why we wouldn't do that. Because we might not want them in either league.
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