RL Football Forum: 'Plastic Fans'

[Illusion35]

Hate the 'plastic' comments. I've supported LCFC since I was 9. Now 36. Season ticket holder for many years. Travelled to aways for many years. Right now I've got a young family, a demanding job and little money. So this season I've made every afternoon kick off at home. Can't do midweeks generally as it's too late for my son on a school night. Can't do aways as can't afford the travel as well as the tickets - and all away tickets for the nearby aways (which are cheaper to get to!) go to STH's exactly as I think they should.

But yes, I made an exception for man city, as was the last week of my son's term and a surprise early Christmas present. Guess I'm plastic!

[Zapp]

Ashley bang on the money

 

I don't know why people are trying to justify their attendance though.

 

People who went through the good and the bad.. what do you want? a medal? some recognition?

 

Its like those folk who give to charity but then make sure they tell everyone how much they give.

 

 

If you go, and have always gone, and always will. Then why do you care about the "glory supporters"? Are you jealous that they can jump in and out of LCFC so easily?

 

In fact, if you get upset about fans that only turn up when we're doing well, then it is your problem. Maybe you feel we should go back to being poor so you can be a football hipster.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Its the paranoia of fans worrying about what other fans think.

Only you yourself know what you can and can't afford. There's no doubt though that people have/will jump on the bandwagon and will boo if we're not 6-0 up at HT. They deserve to be shot.

Don't buy the army excuse either. Two of my mates are STH's whilst serving. One's currently in Afghan missing the best part of the season

[Kitchandro]

Meh, happens at every club.

 

I'm not going to get on with every fan in the stadium, plastic or not there are a lot of twats out there.

 

But I'd rather fill our stadium than not. It would be embarrassing and shit if we were still getting 22K every week now and in the Prem.

 

If you're not a plastic get your ticket sorted for SK1 and nearby. With a little forward thinking we can get true fans together and force the others to buy tickets in other areas of the ground.

 

Success will never stop pulling in people who weren't bothered before, that's the way it's always been.

 

Deal with it.

[Harry - LCFC]

I'd much rather have the 8k who made it to the boro home game last season than the Man City one this season

 

Great night wasn't it? That's the most I've sung at a home game. Lost all inhibition and didn't feel embarrassed to sing because I knew everyone else would join in.

 

Usually the done thing at home games is to sit down and spectate, that night the you were very much the stranger in the crowd if you weren't shouting your head off. I agree with you, fvcking loved it.

[Mark_w]

Don't buy the army excuse either. Two of my mates are STH's whilst serving. One's currently in Afghan missing the best part of the season

 

Surely you can see that it would make more sense not to have the season ticket...?

 

I absolutely do buy the army 'excuse', I'm just not sure why you'd join the army.

[lgfualol]

I dont go to games cus I dont want to 

 

**** me right? 

[kingfox]

Do you go yourself because if you do you must sit there with your ears and eyes covered up this goes on every week no matter how many are there..

 

http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/93455-leaving-before-the-final-whistle/

 

I have only ever left once early in about three season's, and that was when we drew 0-0 against Burnley in the 11/12 season, it was near the end of the season, nothing to play for, and the match was pissing shit.

 

I never go downstairs, and I never shout abuse at players...well since Drinkwater became good again.

[maynefox]

If you were absent for the struggle, you dont deserve to be present for the success

 

I like that statement.

I don't have problem with genuine fans, like we are all genuine on here (been through the good, the bad and the ugly) and sometimes we can't go to games. I accept that totally. I don't accept people who are tweeting. "my team Arsenal won and so did Leicester", when I've been more times to the Emirates then they have! I despise people who "support" this club but also support a top-4 teams and it's mostly teenagers. Jog on, I don't want you here. However, I do want you at the KP if you ditch your two club attitude and support us!

I am total hypocrite here, but hopefully it will prove a point. I use to support Liverpool when I was very young, loved Michael Owen, my dad supported them/born there. Great. My mate took me to several Leicester games (that I remembered!) and the season we came back down from the Prem I ditched being a Liverpool fan and support Leicester. [so you're a 'two-clubbed fan' yourself Maynefox I hear you cry!] No. I don't support Liverpool now and I don't care what happens to them. I stopped supporting them over 10 years ago and I probably liked Liverpool for a season and a half at most.

I want new fans who will support Leicester only. I don't want this 'two-club' support. Ditch it like me [the key is to get them young before they realise what's going on] and be a proper fan 100% fan, who will take time off college to go watch a 0v0 bore draw at Bolton on a Tuesday night!

[maynefox]

Great night wasn't it? That's the most I've sung at a home game. Lost all inhibition and didn't feel embarrassed to sing because I knew everyone else would join in.

 

Usually the done thing at home games is to sit down and spectate, that night the you were very much the stranger in the crowd if you weren't shouting your head off. I agree with you, fvcking loved it.

 twas a good night indeed!

[The Year Of The Fox]

Surely you can see that it would make more sense not to have the season ticket...?

 

I absolutely do buy the army 'excuse', I'm just not sure why you'd join the army.

I say that assuming there are friends that person can sell it to on a weekly basis

[maxwelld_]

Seriously I don't get you lot some times. We as every other football team now are a business. We need people on seats even if they are watching united! Personally I can't go every game and have been to most home games this season as my little one enjoys it. If we are in the prem next season then I hope we are full most weeks. Means more revenue for the owners and makes us a good business to either keep or invest in. ( before you moan about maybe not getting tickets this season " the die hard " will get season tickets and " can't afford one" they do direct debits )

[lee7]

Don't know if anyone else noticed this, but there was an opinionated guy called Roy on the Radio Leicester Fans Forum last night, who really annoyed me. Basically he was complaining about so called 'Plastic fans' who only start coming to games when City are doing well, just to be able to watch the big teams visit the KPS next season. His view was that he'd rather they didn't come at all, which is a ridiculous argument - depriving the club of ticket revenue. It's understandable that people want to come and watch a successful team, but they shouldn't be condemned just because they're not part of the hardcore support. We need everyone behind us if we're going to survive in the Premier League.

As Alan Young has stated on the forum, there are various reasons why people don't regularly come to games - finances, work, ill health, location, family commitments. To tar everyone with the same brush is pretty pathetic. Just because someone doesn't go to every home game it doesn't necessarily make them less of a fan. I used to go to 30 + games a season but then I moved to North Wales, and now it's an expensive trip to make regularly when I've got a family and a credit card to pay off. I'm sure there are many other people with similar reasons for having to pick and choose which games they can get to.

I think you have answered your own question

The fans who have genuine reasons for not being able to make Leicester matches in recent times don't deserve the criticism! But the so called 'fans' who just simply could not be bothered as they aren't interested in watching Leicester play yeovil or Barnsley at home, but will happily turn out in numbers next season if we are to get promoted to watch us play the likes of united and arsenal deserve all the stick they get.

I've now got a family so struggle to make many games at all. I've been to four home games this season and given the chance I would've jumped to watch us play the likes of yeovil at home simply because I love Leicester and will continue to support them no matter how good or sh*t we are!

[davieG]

I have only ever left once early in about three season's, and that was when we drew 0-0 against Burnley in the 11/12 season, it was near the end of the season, nothing to play for, and the match was pissing shit.

 

I never go downstairs, and I never shout abuse at players...well since Drinkwater became good again.

Did anyone say you did?

 

You were implying that it was only your 'plastic fans' that did it where as it happens every week.

 

I've got a group near me, regulars they arrive late and leave early at half time and full time. One might even suggest they were the real plastic fans not those that can only afford the odd game but watch every minute of it.

[Leicesterpool]

I have to agree with some of his comments, in fact i know a mate who hasn't been to the KP for six years! he stopped going after they got relegated from the championship since then he stopped supporting the foxes (he followed Man U instead) but until recently he's gone back to supporting the foxes!

 

To be honest the genuine fans are the ones who attend most of the games and travel to long away days to places like Yeovil and Carlisle midweek! Some fans can't attend due to costs, but i find it strange they didn't have the money then but have it now, even though to premier league prices are a lot dear!

[Pasturesfox]

I don't care who goes to the games, what I do object to is what they do when they are there.

I think the idiots like me who have gone through thick and thin appreciate how good things are at the moment and if we are one nil down at half time it's not the end of the world.

The chap behind me on Saturday who I have never seen before started slagging off Vardy for missing in the first half , Schmeical for his flapping etc etc. his opinion might be valid but I don't need it in my ear when we should all be behind the team.

[kingfox]

Did anyone say you did?

 

You were implying that it was only your 'plastic fans' that did it where as it happens every week.

 

I've got a group near me, regulars they arrive late and leave early at half time and full time. One might even suggest they were the real plastic fans not those that can only afford the odd game but watch every minute of it.

 

I weren't implying that at all, I was just mentioning what happens where I am.

 

There's a difference between early leavers and plastic fans. Some people are both, but both are wankers.

[Mark_w]

If you were absent for the struggle, you dont deserve to be present for the success

 

Right since people are actually agreeing with you (which baffles me) I feel the need to explain why this is stupid.

 

This is the success, the shitty season(s) in the Premier League will almost certainly be the struggle and we'll probably have bigger crowds then.

 

What about kids from families that don't like football. Say they're just starting to earn enough to pay to go to games, should they be banned from doing so because they weren't there when we were shit?

Children who also weren't taken to games in previous season through no fault of their own, they don't deserve to go to games?

What about people who genuinely couldn't afford to go before and now can because of work/family etc.?

People who weren't satisfied with the atmosphere but want to give the SK1 project a try?

 

There are plenty of exceptions to your rule, so many that it's really stupid to make sweeping statements like that.

 

I imagine our average attendances will shoot up by three or four thousand (at a guess, I wasn't really old enough to take in our last spell in the Premier League). Some of those will be 'plastics' but not all of them. And frankly 'loyal' fans who do noting but slate and abuse our players during games are a much bigger problem.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Plastic fans are wankers.

 

There will be a whole bunch of youths turn up or adults with kids, just to see the opposition, call our players crap, go downstairs every 30 mins for food & drink, then piss off 10 mins before full time.

 

If I get any people like that near me next season, I'll be having words.

 

Now that's the proper description of a plastic. Astonishingly, there are people like this who are ST holders.

 

It's not about the amount of games you attend, it's about how you support the team where you can get there.

 

IE, quality, not quantity.

[maxwelld_]

Plastic fans are wankers.

There will be a whole bunch of youths turn up or adults with kids, just to see the opposition, call our players crap, go downstairs every 30 mins for food & drink, then piss off 10 mins before full time.

If I get any people like that near me next season, I'll be having words.

You sir are a moron ! Some of us bring our kids as they enjoy the game and will be the next set of "diehard" fans . Assume you dad took you to leicester when you were little? Kids go to the toilet and need a drink now and again ( it's called parenting ) and we leave slightly early so they don't get crushed on the way out ( again parenting ) when you stop blowing your wad in your sock and try a women you might understand one day young one !

[Jakemoore]

Yeah I personally thought this was so cringed. This Roy is an idiot. If someone lives miles away from leicester and can only afford to go to 5 games a year then they'll choose the big games and the game we seal promotion, does that make them plastic fans?! I don't think so. Crawl in to your cave Roy you tool.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Did anyone say you did?

 

You were implying that it was only your 'plastic fans' that did it where as it happens every week.

 

I've got a group near me, regulars they arrive late and leave early at half time and full time. One might even suggest they were the real plastic fans not those that can only afford the odd game but watch every minute of it.

 

Which is what I said about Kingfox's post without having read past it

[Hungry Hungry Fox]

Elitist BS

[Corky]

We are hardly plastics, we had a higher average attendance in 2007-08 (relegation season) than 2009/10 (play-off season).

 

If you do all you can, go as much as it is possible for you then I wouldn't let it bother you. It's the ones that aren't bothered, slag off, never go (through choice/ petulance) during the rough times then swan back during the good times and get upset when people have a go at them as it obviously touches a nerve.

[Guest Col city fan]

I've never got this argument, even when I was a youth and literally went to every game, home and away.

The club needs revenue and bums on seats equals revenue.

I know as many season ticket holders who know fook all about football, as I do 'plastic fans' who know fook all about football.

The club is a business and needs as many people attending as possible, 'plastic' or not.