World cup victory in Brazil or Prem survival?

[Mark_w]

I don't mean any disrespect but that is quite bizarre.  

 

To be chosen to play for England is to mean being regarded as one of the best in the country, to play for an entire nation (including the mighty Leicester), to play for the nation that invented the bloody game.

 

England is still a national institution, Leicester City is a foreign owned company that is being run to make a profit for it's owners, nothing more than that, heck I don't even think many of our players or staff live in Leicester.  Now if we had a national league where it was eleven Leicester lads Vs eleven Nottingham lads or something I may have picked City in this poll, but that isn't the case, it's a team of eleven mercenaries currently playing for us because we pay better than most at the minute and this is their level of quality.

 

I also don't agree with the footballers only motivated by money thing, most international players are extremely wealthy men as it is, I actually believe that when it comes to international football, its back to square one for them, to prove themselves on the toughest stage of all without being bothered or influenced by money like they are at their clubs.

 

Those, like Rooney for example, who left the clubs they supposedly loved for more money and the chance of success would surely do the same if it was possible on a national scale. It isn't, but I don't really see the difference?

[ScouseFox]

I'd have taken playing a single game for Leicester over winning a World Cup with England.

wow

[Bob Weasel Fox]

Seriously this question is a hard one because naturally you would want both to win

Club overall for me though

[hackneyfox]

Kitchandro, on 20 Mar 2014 - 7:11 PM, said:

You seem to be being a little immature yourself, you don't agree with me so you say my reasons must be silly and a betrayal of my true feelings. When in fact my reasons make far more sense than yours.

 

Basically, you're saying I'm English so I should support England. Isn't that like saying you're Scouse so you should support Liverpool and not Leicester? It's just a stupid and simplistic attitude that should be reserved for the lowest common denominators in our society.

 

I've said there is an infectious excitement when England play, but that shouldn't equate to me being desperate for some of these low lives to get the greatest sporting glory there is. Especially when naturally,I just don't care very much.

 

So yeh, some of the players we've had over the last 10 years make me glad we haven't won the world cup. They don't need overrating further and they certainly don't need to be worshipped anymore. It would become unbearable.

 

And as if I give a shit how the rest of the country would feel about it.

If you're English and a football fan I don't understand why you wouldn't be an England fan.

 

I put club before country but it's beyond me how you can be glad we haven't won the WC in the last 10 years.

If Marlon King scored a winning goal for Leicester I'd celebrate I just wouldn't sing his name.

 

I've fallen out of love with England but I'd be ecstatic should they win another World Cup.

[Guest MattP]

I don't care about my name living forever or being among the all time greats. I'd get much greater satisfaction from playing for the club I love.

 

I understand that, but to say you would play a single game for Leicester over winning the greatest prize the sport has ever offered is one of the strangest things I've heard.

 

Players give up everything for a chance at that, I couldn't really give a shit about the Euros, but lifting that beautiful Gold trophy is still the thing every footballer should dream of.

[Mark_w]

I understand that, but to say you would play a single game for Leicester over winning the greatest prize the sport has ever offered is one of the strangest things I've heard.

 

Players give up everything for a chance at that, I couldn't really give a shit about the Euros, but lifting that beautiful Gold trophy is still the thing every footballer should dream of.

 

Some people are motivated to prove they're the best at something, but I'm not really. I'd rather do what's going to make me happier than do what is going to make me more successful. It's a shame that surprises people.

[iamafox]

Premiership survival, without a doubt.

[BlueSi13]

Those, like Rooney for example, who left the clubs they supposedly loved for more money and the chance of success would surely do the same if it was possible on a national scale. It isn't, but I don't really see the difference?

Like it or not football clubs are businesses.  Rooney left his company to go to one that would double/treble his wages whilst offering him the chance to gain greater exposure.

 

Take all of us for example, are you telling me any of us would turn down the chance to go work for a bigger company for the double the pay?  E.g I am a mechanical engineer by background and I am very privileged to work for the company I do currently (British company).  However If I was offered the chance to join say NASA for double pay I'd snap their hand off.  

 

However if suddenly there was some sort of national engineering championships and i'd been chosen to represent England/Great Britain it would be the greatest honour of my career and perhaps my life.  Would I then turn them down to represent Germany or the USA for more money if that was possible? Not a chance...I have lived in Germany and enjoyed my time but i'm not a German, I am a Leicester lad from England and always will be.  I truly doubt any England players would do that either, even with the offer of money, as I said earlier if it was about money, they'd never play for England as there isn't any.

[Salieri]

World Cup win for me, a once in a lifetime thing (if your lucky). Leicester could survive in the Premier League but go down the following year, or equally, get relegated then promoted the following year. Such is the nature of following a side like Leicester.

 

I'm sick of hearing about '66 and whilst I don't think we've got a prayer of winning the thing for the foreseeable, i'd still love to see it.

[theessexfox]

That's fair enough, but the unique joy remains a part of it - if Leicester win at Old Trafford on the way to coming 17th, that win alone will bring me a great sense of joy than England winning the World Cup would.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that then; for me, an England WC win will live long in the memory, whereas 17th in the Premiership, even with a win at Old Trafford, won't be especially memorable as a season. 

[Adster]

Couldn't give a shit about England to be honest.

 

I'd much rather us stay in the Prem.

[theessexfox]

Couldn't give a shit about England to be honest.

 

I'd much rather us stay in the Prem.

Something to remember for the rest of your life, or a fairly mediocre, forgettable season finishing 17th?

[Adster]

Something to remember for the rest of your life, or a fairly mediocre, forgettable season finishing 17th?

 

 

Might be different for you but it really wouldn't be something I'd cherish remembering for the rest of my life. 

[BlueSi13]

I think that maybe there is a clear split between those who remember the times when being an England supporter was genuinely a thrill ride with moments that club football can simply never replicate, and those that just remember the England of the last 15 years who have been a constant source of disappointment and apathy.

[hackneyfox]

I'd be more elated at the time if England won the cup, unless Leicester stopped up on the last day.

I'd still go for staying up though, most teams fall apart when relegated and don't bounce back beating their points tally from the last time.

[Saxondale]

I'd rather we beat Blackburn on Saturday than England win the world cup.

[The Year Of The Fox]

Absolute no brainer

World Cup everytime

[jimmeh]

I'd rather we beat Blackburn on Saturday than England win the world cup.

There would be no Leicester but for the fa and England my friend. Tbh the poll reads as it does because people on here's life depends on Leicester city. If you had a poll at the ground from every fan who went then it would be completely different. Unfortunately people on here are so sad they would probably choose Leicester staying up over there wife

[Vardinhio]

I have to go with the world cup. It will probably only happen once if ever during my lifetime so I'd love to see it happen. City on the otherhand will be bouncing around forever.

[UpTheLeagueFox]

Club before country.

 

I chose to support my club, it was organic, it wasn't shoved down my throat by my dad, I shook off 'supporting Liverpool' as a young kid by going to City games and building up the love I have for them now. There will never, ever be a football feeling that comes close to how I feel about Leicester City.

 

I'd love to see England win a major tournament every couple of years and I'm passionate about them when it's on but club beats country every single time.

[Corky]

But survival could be any position from 17th up. If we finish 10th that's a great first season and technically survival.

[Webbo]

I think that maybe there is a clear split between those who remember the times when being an England supporter was genuinely a thrill ride with moments that club football can simply never replicate, and those that just remember the England of the last 15 years who have been a constant source of disappointment and apathy.

I grew up in the 70s when England never even qualified for a tournament. I would love to see England win something in my lifetime.

[ScouseFox]

I think that maybe there is a clear split between those who remember the times when being an England supporter was genuinely a thrill ride with moments that club football can simply never replicate, and those that just remember the England of the last 15 years who have been a constant source of disappointment and apathy.

 

the first tournament i remember is france 98 so technically all i know is "failure", "nob head managers", "cúnty" players and "overpaid bellends". 

 

i still cannot think of anything i'd prefer in sport than for england to win the world cup. 

[veezeeblue]

No brainer for me, as I live in Brazil and I am quite sure that, the way we are setup now, we will get promoted next year, if I had to swap our promotion for Englands gloriuos victory over the rest of the world in my back yard, I would have to say ... OF COURSE ARE  YOU ****ING CRAZY OF COURSE !

[The Doctor]

Hmmm.

 

I went with Leicester on the poll but I can't agree with that.

 

Lifting a World Cup, as captain puts you among the all time greats and your name lives forever, only about 18-19 other people have ever done it in footballing history.

Does it really though? Could anyone name (without resorting to google) any of the Uruguay 1930 winners, or Italy's 1934/1938 winning squads? Likewise in another 50 years would anyone really know the likes of Moore and Charlton? 

 

 

Anyway, it'd be Leicester every time (change the question to scotland or city, nothing would change): I enjoy the world cups and euros, but no more than the ACN (maybe less so, the ACN is brilliant, shit goalkeepers galore), they're just filler in those 3 months of the close season to me, something to bide the time between the end of one season and the start of the next.