Guest Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 Agree. This was very evident against Swansea. But then shouldn't the armband go to Cambi? Well with that thinking it should go to Huth. Morgan may well be the best for skipper - it's not about plevel of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 Morgan may well be the best for skipper - it's not about plevel of play. Not when in your own words he's under instructions from Huth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dickov22 Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 Brilliant today. Best player for us for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 Not when in your own words he's under instructions from Huth. They're not my words at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iancognito Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 He's not been that bad all season but for some reason, maybe because he's the skipper, he's come under fire for every slight slip up. Like a lot of the players, as I've mentioned elsewhere Vardy in particular he's had to adjust to the big league and step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 This thread just shows how reactionary this forum is. There are so many comments along the lines not of 'Wes is out of form at present', rather 'Wes is rubbish' etc... It's been a feature of the forum for the whole season. Nearly every player has had their turn to be scapegoated and vilified in their own way. Vardy, Nugent, Wes, Jeff, RDL... And others have all got it in the neck from one quarter or the other. It's embarrassing actually. Oh...and add Kasper to that list...who's performance today has massively helped in hopefully keeping the club up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 This thread just shows how reactionary this forum is. There are so many comments along the lines not of 'Wes is out of form at present', rather 'Wes is rubbish' etc... It's been a feature of the forum for the whole season. Nearly every player has had their turn to be scapegoated and vilified in their own way. Vardy, Nugent, Wes, Jeff, RDL... And others have all got it in the neck from one quarter or the other. It's embarrassing actually. Yeah... It's not like you to scapegoat anyone!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 25 April 2015 Share Posted 25 April 2015 Yeah... It's not like you to scapegoat anyone!!! I've not scapegoated anyone. I've said all season that Cambiasso has not been as fantastic as nearly everyone else thinks. I've also said he's a model pro and one of our better players. That's not scapegoating. But many many threads have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 25 April 2015 Author Share Posted 25 April 2015 Been a beast the past few games! Credit where credit is due people who slated his poor performances Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 25 April 2015 Author Share Posted 25 April 2015 Been a beast the past few games! Credit where credit is due people who slated his poor performances Been ok by his standards but if he plays in the prem next seasonwe will struggle again.huth is so Many classes above Morgan.without him calamity would have messed up for sure.imagine huth with a quicker less flat-footedly partner,we would not be where we are that's fairly obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hirsty The Blue 94 Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Been ok by his standards but if he plays in the prem next seasonwe will struggle again.huth is so Many classes above Morgan.without him calamity would have messed up for sure.imagine huth with a quicker less flat-footedly partner,we would not be where we are that's fairly obvious Yawn. Can you not give the bloke any credit without following it up with a dig? The fact you call one of our players 'calamity' is actually quite embarrassing. In the last first 6 and the last 6 games Wes has been brilliant. The middle of the season everyone was struggling, and Morgan was just as bad as the rest. Him and Huth are a more than adequate Premier League centre half pairing for a team in our position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 I don't think I'm scapegoating Morgan by saying that for a large proportion of this season he has not been up to scratch, he just hasn't. Lately he's been playing very well and long may it continue. If he can keep up the level of performance he's shown for the last month then he is a vital part of a team that can get success. If he goes back to playing like he did then I would want him to be dropped, I think that's a fair assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMELcfc Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Played well lately but still makes me nervous watching him... Huth must be having a calming effect. Sorry but not a Prem class defender for me, although rather him than Upson! On the subject of defenders, De Laet... Shocking defensively, Albrighton, a winger all his career, was better! He needs to go if we stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nlukka Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 There was a great profile of him in The Times yesterday (can't link to their website unfortunately). In the interview, Wes mentioned how difficult the Prem can be because you get punished for momentary lapses in concentration; certainly, Liverpool at home springs to mind as a game where he was punished severely. He also spoke about how he is a laid back personality and how he's never doubted his ability to play at this level. Fair play to him too, because in recent weeks we've seen that he can operate well at this level; I think like a lot of our players it's been a tough adjustment period to the Premiership. He also had a little dig at Mike Jones for that 'handball' at Liverpool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Not when in your own words he's under instructions from Huth. That's not what FIF said though - what he essentially said is that having a reliable old clogger next to Wes takes a bit of the pressure off Wes - that knowing he's got a reliable player to cover allows him to relax and play his game rather than worrying about trying to play his team mate out of trouble as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardinhio Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Played well lately but still makes me nervous watching him... Huth must be having a calming effect. Sorry but not a Prem class defender for me, although rather him than Upson! On the subject of defenders, De Laet... Shocking defensively, Albrighton, a winger all his career, was better! He needs to go if we stay up. FOAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Been a beast the past few games! Credit where credit is due people who slated his poor performances Eh? He's been a mountain over the past 4 games but lets not deny that he's been a total liability for the majority of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeman's Wharfer Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Agreed he's been really good for the last 4 games. I really didn't think he could cope at this level - maybe he can. This is the kind of attitude that I hope we don't see this summer. Morgan has been great in the last few games but the true test of his ability should be judged over the course of the season and in that he has been found wanting. For me, if we survive it shouldn't be a case of thinking our players have earned the right to have a second season, I want us to be ruthless. Nugent, Morgan, Konchesky and perhaps even Schmeichel have not been good enough for large parts of this season and if we're to progress as a team they need replacing with better quality players who can produce over the entireity of a season at this level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB-fox Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 Only scapegoat is Konchesky, the rest of the comments are just part+parcel of being a footballer, when you're in bad form you get slated when you're in good form you get praised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjslcfc Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 It's no coincidence that he's improved with two other centre backs around him in a 3. They help him enormously. Think it's one of the reasons we started playing 3 at the back... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 The abuse he got on here earlier was ridiculous. Yes he was out of form from around gameweek 10-20. I said it earlier on this thread, that this was the only period we should have considered dropping him. But what were the options, him or Moore were the only fit CBs. He started the season amazingly well. And since around late January he has been fairly solid and is improving all the time. He was made a scapegoat by some people to why things were going wrong, when the truth was that he was one of many who were not performing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claridge Posted 26 April 2015 Author Share Posted 26 April 2015 This is the kind of attitude that I hope we don't see this summer. Morgan has been great in the last few games but the true test of his ability should be judged over the course of the season and in that he has been found wanting. For me, if we survive it shouldn't be a case of thinking our players have earned the right to have a second season, I want us to be ruthless. Nugent, Morgan, Konchesky and perhaps even Schmeichel have not been good enough for large parts of this season and if we're to progress as a team they need replacing with better quality players who can produce over the entireity of a season at this level. We must strengthen in the summer nugent and Morgan are not good enough for next season if we stay up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benpicko Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 It's no coincidence that he's improved with two other centre backs around him in a 3. They help him enormously. Think it's one of the reasons we started playing 3 at the back... He's been the stand out of the three for a few matches though and even for that people are giving Huth the praise for helping it happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shailen Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 He's been the stand out of the three for a few matches though and even for that people are giving Huth the praise for helping it happen Absolutely. Scapegoating at it's best imo. Huth has been very consistent and solid, but Morgan has been by far the stand out defender in the last few games, maybe because he is playing alongside Huth and feels more comfortable. Certain players are set up for scapegoating such as Nugent/Morgan/UIloa/Kasper that when they have good games, few people admit it and when they have poor games our fans are outraged, even labelling players a 'calamity'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjslcfc Posted 26 April 2015 Share Posted 26 April 2015 He's been the stand out of the three for a few matches though and even for that people are giving Huth the praise for helping it happen I'm not sure. I felt against West Ham and Swansea there were occasions when Morgan was caught out. It's just he gets a lot more help in the three. Just an observation. I could be wrong but I do feel his upturn in form has coincided with that. Whether it's caused it is another matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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