Ricey Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 As bad as his kicking was, the sarcastic cheering from our fans when he finally delivered a decent kick was a disgrace. Same happened when Konchesky played a successful back pass the ofher week. Some fans needs there heads checking and to learn how to support players.
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 i just want lee to change his dp which is gayer than mine
Callabinho Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 It does matter yes. Hamer is more comfortable coming for crosses and what not, but quick distribution (distribution in general) is one of our secret weapons, When it comes to that side of his game, Hamer is diabolical. He slows the play down by holding onto the ball for too long, yesterday Simpson had several calls for the ball waved away by Hamer, And he was in good positions to drive on. People say that it doesn't matter, but it does, faluire to address these fine margins will result in you getting punished, we lost the ball far too many times yesterday, and you have to say most of it was down to Hamers distribution, and I'm not talking about the ones he fired into touch, also the moments where he caught the ball, had players screaming for it, waved them away, hoofed it up field and right onto a Stoke head, we needed to be more cute than that, especially with the lack of cover in midfield, it was like playing with ten men at times. I've been singing Hamer's praises recently, but he really let himself down yesterday.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 I get the feeling the Hamer is a bit of a confidence player, so once a couple of bad kicks have happened and fans get on his back, it's only going to snowball and get worse, even with moronic, ironic cheers when he does make the kick. Yes, kicking is important and he will know that and be frustrated with himself but I thought his general performance was good today, particularly the stop from Nzonzi.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 It wasn't the main problem but it was a problem, his kicking is terrible.
nealsimbo Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 so only kicked 3 out and most of the others won in the air by the stoke defenders, seemed to panic and try to kick it to early from how I saw it strange thing is early on in the first half I commented how good his distribution was then it all seemed to go wrong.
fleckneymike Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 so only kicked 3 out and most of the others won in the air by the stoke defenders, seemed to panic and try to kick it to early from how I saw it strange thing is early on in the first half I commented how good his distribution was then it all seemed to go wrong. His distribution accuracy is 36.5%.
Unabomber Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 i just want lee to change his dp which is gayer than mine lmao
ealingfox Posted 18 January 2015 Posted 18 January 2015 Have to admit his kicking is doggo but so is Schmeichel's so its irrelevant really.
GingerrrFox Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 http://www.lcfc.com/news/article/hamer-temperament-pleases-pearson-2210341.aspx Seems like Nigel is not guaranteeing Kasper number 1 status when he's back from injury. "3 excellent keepers at the club".
st albans fox Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Think we'll see Schwarzer this weekend. So do I and if he does well, I think he'll be in sticks at OT
Buzzell Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Solid goalkeeper but his distribution at times is shocking. How hard can it be to take a goal kick? Or even just lumping it upfield? I like the guy but wouldn't be surprised if Pearson drops him for the Spurs game and introduces Schwarzer.
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Have to admit his kicking is doggo but so is Schmeichel's so its irrelevant really. Nowhere near as bad. Not only is it not true statistically (others have pointed this out several times) but the manner of the kicks as well is different. Hamer's kicks fall short of the halfway line a lot and on one occasion, quite amazingly, hardly made it out of the penalty area despite him trying to blast it. Agree with others though that sarcastically cheering him while he's playing is an awful idea and will only dent his confidence.
kingcarr21 Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Solid goalkeeper but his distribution at times is shocking. How hard can it be to take a goal kick? Or even just lumping it upfield? I like the guy but wouldn't be surprised if Pearson drops him for the Spurs game and introduces Schwarzer. I would quite like to see Schwarzer in goal in the cup. At least give him a run out in a Leicester shirt. I was laughing in the end at Hamers kicking ability. Was shockingly bad
Lovejoy Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 another thread for inexplicable pro-Hamer sentiment. The same people who were picking apart every minute of Kasper's performances are now either making excuses for Hamer or calling for people to stop being unfairly critical of players altogether, even though the anti-Kasper brigade were relentless in slating him and demanding he be replaced. Hamer's kicking has been awful since he got in and today was no different; he has almost put us in trouble in virtually every game he has played. Sometimes he doesn't even make the halfway line and today he had one that only just made it outside the box. Fortunately it eventually dropped I think to Schlupp but it's only a matter of time before he lands us right in it. Clutching at straws concentrating on that one second half save; it is one you'd expect every goalkeeper in the league to make as it was straight at him. Strong hand but let's not make it out to be something it wasn't. For the record, I agree that Hamer was not the reason we lost today. But once again I can't help notice the double standards here on criticism of Hamer. Some of you were like vultures after every one of Kasper's performances and, now that Hamer isn't really doing what you insisted he would do, you're having to do some pretty nifty mental and verbal gymnastics to avoid conceding that he is worse in many areas than Kasper and that nothing has materially changed for the better since he was brought into the starting eleven. Apart from the 3 clean sheets in the past 5, and the fact he has kept 4 times as many clean sheets as Schmeichel this season. That's not an "I hate Kasper" post for the record either. There is no denying that Hamer's kicking on Saturday was garbage, but this might play a large part in people's backing of him. I'm sure Hamer will come down harder on himself than anyone else. I for one think it's great that there's even a debate over who get's the gloves, the days of Ricardo and Paul Henderson seem a long time ago .
Arriba Los Zorros Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 bloody awful kicking. Made me more angry than anything else in the game when he booted it out (except for Lawrence being too scared to control the ball)
fuchsntf Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Another thread that phsycho-analyses every bloody move miskick, slip, weaknesses on thr day..!!!! Congrsts to all the fans, we have now the great distinction of getting every single player, management team, tea lady, sandwich maker , floor cleaner , into some stupid little blackbook . Footballers whether paid or dome of you at local leagues, make mistakes, or have game weaknesses, and top skills... So what..Its not those individuals mistakes, or weaknesses that is keeping us bottom and not performing... We havent performed all season to warrant our position should be higher, thats simply our lot.., at present. I wont attack one player because of us sitting 20th.
sylofox Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 There is no such thing as the perfect keeper they all have a weakness and all make mistakes. If there was such thing as the perfect keeper he would be at Real Barca City Utd or Chelski.
sylofox Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Another thread that phsycho-analyses every bloody move miskick, slip, weaknesses on thr day..!!!! Congrsts to all the fans, we have now the great distinction of getting every single player, management team, tea lady, sandwich maker , floor cleaner , into some stupid little blackbook . Footballers whether paid or dome of you at local leagues, make mistakes, or have game weaknesses, and top skills... So what..Its not those individuals mistakes, or weaknesses that is keeping us bottom and not performing... We havent performed all season to warrant our position should be higher, thats simply our lot.., at present. I wont attack one player because of us sitting 20th. I would blame players for showing no effort. Not being good enough is not there fault. Also as we do not know the inner workings of the club we can not put all the blame on Nige. Yes he bought the players most of which were to get us out the championship. Yes before you all shout what about the summer. We do not know what budget he had or if he got the players he wanted (first choice that is) We also do not know how many he wanted. His big mistake was thinking last seasons players would do the job like most on here did. Oh just a left back one in mid and another striker and praps a winger will do.
Guest MarshallForEngland Posted 19 January 2015 Posted 19 January 2015 Apart from the 3 clean sheets in the past 5, and the fact he has kept 4 times as many clean sheets as Schmeichel this season. That's not an "I hate Kasper" post for the record either. There is no denying that Hamer's kicking on Saturday was garbage, but this might play a large part in people's backing of him. I'm sure Hamer will come down harder on himself than anyone else. I for one think it's great that there's even a debate over who get's the gloves, the days of Ricardo and Paul Henderson seem a long time ago . I have explained the "clean sheet" stuff in other threads. The fact is he let in a goal on 2 of those clean sheets without knowing the offside flag was about to go up, and one of them (Newcastle's) was perfectly legitimate and his technique for trying to save it was terrible. It's disingenuous to draw conclusions about Hamer's shot-stopping based on the "clean sheets"; firstly because there is such a small pool of data to work from (saying "4 times as many" is also disingenuous when the numbers are so low) and secondly, most importantly, at least 2 of them were clean sheets in spite of Hamer, not because of him. Still yet to see an argument against this. I also mentioned regression toward the mean in other threads and most people seem to be ignoring that phenomenon. We had an anomalously bad run which was statistically bound to be followed by something closer to the average overall performance. To be honest I think there is a bigger burden of proof on the people on here who kicked and screamed every time Kasper started in goal and who, literally within one game of Hamer replacing him, couldn't stop talking about how the new lord and saviour was head and shoulders above his predecessor. I am not anti-Hamer in any way - I don't think there is a great deal of difference overall between him and Kasper - but he has somehow developed a blind but relentless fanclub who just will not concede that their incessant noise-making hasn't really been justified and that lambasting Kasper during and after every game was focusing on the wrong thing. I'd still probably have Schwarzer over both of them atm.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 20 January 2015 Posted 20 January 2015 I have explained the "clean sheet" stuff in other threads. The fact is he let in a goal on 2 of those clean sheets without knowing the offside flag was about to go up, and one of them (Newcastle's) was perfectly legitimate and his technique for trying to save it was terrible. It's disingenuous to draw conclusions about Hamer's shot-stopping based on the "clean sheets"; firstly because there is such a small pool of data to work from (saying "4 times as many" is also disingenuous when the numbers are so low) and secondly, most importantly, at least 2 of them were clean sheets in spite of Hamer, not because of him. Still yet to see an argument against this. I also mentioned regression toward the mean in other threads and most people seem to be ignoring that phenomenon. We had an anomalously bad run which was statistically bound to be followed by something closer to the average overall performance. To be honest I think there is a bigger burden of proof on the people on here who kicked and screamed every time Kasper started in goal and who, literally within one game of Hamer replacing him, couldn't stop talking about how the new lord and saviour was head and shoulders above his predecessor. I am not anti-Hamer in any way - I don't think there is a great deal of difference overall between him and Kasper - but he has somehow developed a blind but relentless fanclub who just will not concede that their incessant noise-making hasn't really been justified and that lambasting Kasper during and after every game was focusing on the wrong thing. I'd still probably have Schwarzer over both of them atm. You did, and you were told what an absolute load of tripe you were talking there, and you will be here too.
chapero82 Posted 20 January 2015 Posted 20 January 2015 There is no such thing as the perfect keeper they all have a weakness and all make mistakes. If there was such thing as the perfect keeper he would be at Real Barca City Utd or Chelski. He's actually at Bayern Munich
Lovejoy Posted 20 January 2015 Posted 20 January 2015 He's actually at Bayern Munich I raise you this former hero.
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