cc_star Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Savage: Who will survive Premier League relegation battle? No surprise that a team bottom for so long and at this stage of the season are tipped for the drop, anyway not bad reasoning from Robbie for the teams involved at the bottom end so fair play to him... Got a lot more about him than Owen http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/31158853 "I hope my old club stay up, I really do, but it is hard to see it happening. They are going to need five wins out of their last 15 games just to get to 32 points. I cannot see them getting that many, let alone any more. Verdict: Going down."
Fox92 Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 I'm sure he just loves winding Villa fans up. Last three years on 606 he's had many a debate with Villa fans "you will go down" etc and now, when they are actually the worst I've seen them, he thinks they will stay up. Says a lot about the rubbish of the bottom of the Premier League, too. Do like Sav though. Hope he's wrong here and we stay up.
MooseBreath Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 So he's basically saying, based on form, the teams currently in the bottom three will end up in the bottom three. Genius analysis there Robert lad. Earned your coin today son.
David Guiza Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 If you're looking objectively at the table, you'd have to predict us to go down. We have only won 3 games all season, which is an awful tally at this stage. There are some really poor sides down there with us though, personally I think it's between us, Palace, Burnley, QPR, Villa and Hull for 3 places. If I had to make a bet i'd go for Burnley, QPR and then either us or Hull for the final place. Villa will get a couple of jammy wins here and there as per and finish 16-17th.
Poznan34 Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Way too early to say. Not like in previous seasons where some teams are clearly down.
Nick Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 I look at our home games left and who we are playing and it doesn't bode well - we'll have to win at least two or three both home and away between now and May if we are going to remain in the Prem. Not impossible but we are going to have to play out of our skins and get the rub of the green. To be fair to Robbie he's not far wrong.
Babylon Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 We have only won 3 games all season, which is an awful tally at this stage. We've won 4 games, so have 3 other teams, with another 4 only winning 5. It's actually pretty normal for teams in the bottom 6 to be sat with only 4 or 5 wins at this stage.
cc_star Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 We've won 4 games, so have 3 other teams, with another 4 only winning 5. It's actually pretty normal for teams in the bottom 6 to be sat with only 4 or 5 wins at this stage. It's often about one team sliding into oblivion (Villa look favourites for that at the minute) Vs one team rising up the table, like Sunderland and others have done in recent years... So far no one has like that could be them
Les-TA-Jon Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Referencing some of the points I made in this thread: Looking at the last 10 PL seasons: Most wins needed 11 Average wins needed 8 or 9 Least wins needed 6. So what, we probably need something like 6,7 or 8 wins in total to stay up? 2 out of 15 doesn't sound bad, but that only puts us on 23 points, meaning we'd need a lot of draws too. Interestingly: Hull City, in 2008/09 amazingly won only 2 out of their final 29 games of the season. This run contained 18 losses, and runs of 6 and 5 consecutive defeats. 15 points gained from 87 available. In 2007/08 Fulham won only 5 games out of the opening 35 games! In the following season, Wigan in 2006/07 had 2 wins in 16, from fixtures 12 to 27, losing 8 games in a row as part of the sequence. Portsmouth won only 4 games in their opening 28 matches, in 2005/06, a sequence containing 18 losses In 2004/05, West Brom only managed 1 win in their opening 23 matches. 13 points from 69 available. This left them with 13 points from 23 matches, much lower than the well-trodden 1 point per game needed for survival. All of the teams above stayed up and didn’t get relegated So I suppose the good news is that the gap continues to be small, meaning we're almost as much in the mire as anybody else. And we may only need as little as 3 or 4 wins out of the remaining 15 games. And there's historical precedent for teams to have truly awful seasons and still stay up. BUT... Even if we only need to win 3 or 4 games, that leaves us needing to draw something like 5 or 6 of the remaining games. We may need 30-32 points so that looks something like: 3 W, 6 D, 6 L I don't see us going unbeaten in around two-thirds of our remaining games. Let's just hope the quality continues to be poor!
ADK Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 If we need 5 wins from 15 and Robbie says he doesn't see us doing that, then it sounds fair enough. That's 1 win in every 3. But our 6 game form includes 2 wins, so on form we just need to keep this up to probably scrape through. That's why I feel we will probably avoid the drop. Winning tomorrow would be a massive boost.
Jazzy_Jeff Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 We need to beat the teams around us and pick up any other points anywhere we can. If we beat Palace, Hull, QPR at home and Burnley away then get something at Sunderland and West Brom we've got a great chance.
surrifox Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 So he's basically saying, based on form, the teams currently in the bottom three will end up in the bottom three. Genius analysis there Robert lad. Earned your coin today son. I cant bring myself to listen to 606 since he's been on it; his attempts to appear abrasive and polemical just come across as quarrelsome and lacking insight - I can only assume that the producers see him as a popular man of the people - they're wrong.
RUDZY Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Michael Owen (the second most boring man in football) is sure we along with QPR and Burnley will be relegated SO WHAT!!!
sylofox Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 He said we'd beat stoke 2-1 and look what happened there. If it was that easy there would be no bookies and no betting as everyone would know the winner.
Corky Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 So he's basically saying, based on form, the teams currently in the bottom three will end up in the bottom three. Genius analysis there Robert lad. Earned your coin today son. Earlier this season he said Hull had finished last season in mid-table (16th), one point above West Brom "who were lucky to stay up".
DennisNedry Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 Savage: Run-in: Their home game against Crystal Palace on Saturday is massive for them - if they can win that then they are within three points of Palace, who are 13th, and their aim has to be not to get cut adrift and to bring as many teams into the mix as they can. I hope my old club stay up, I really do, but it is hard to see it happening. They are going to need five wins out of their last 15 games just to get to 32 points. I cannot see them getting that many, let alone any more. Verdict: Going down.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 It really matters not, what the pundits think. It is all about how we apply ourselves in the remaining fixtures.7 After Palace we have a few hard games, on paper. If we can despatch them tomorrow, and pull a couple of points from those games then we will be right back in the mix, with a fairly reasonable amount of easier fixtures to follow. It really is down to us, as to how we apply ourselves, on the run in. Personally, I believe it could help is psychologically, if Pearson was to make his presence felt from the touch line. Just a feeling, rather than a solid reason. We all keep talking about points, but let us not forget, it could be down goal difference.
Guest Col city fan Posted 6 February 2015 Posted 6 February 2015 The three sides to go down will be Burnley, QPR and Hull iMO.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 7 February 2015 Posted 7 February 2015 I think the bottom three will be relegated.
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