Mike Oxlong Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Surely that'd be dangerous though? Yeah, probably. Might just be swooping control from a nutter in the cockpit to one on the ground. I'll cancel the patent application!
MooseBreath Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 German police made a significant find in his apartment. What can it be?? A suicide note would be my guess
ousefox Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Even if they could contact the ground, there's nothing they can do to help. The system is designed to prevent cockpit intrusion. There is a switch in the cockpit that can override the keypad entry. In fact, as I understand it, the crew member enters the code and the pilot on the flight deck can see via a video link who is trying to gain entry. He can then flick the switch to either open the door, or lock it.Yeah I was just wondering why they didn't communicate the problem if they were able to.
Merging Cultures Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Wonder if there is the technology to override manual control from the ground, bit like a drone or radio controlled aircraft?I've read that there is, but the issue is ££££.Same with real time data collection from planes.
Mike Oxlong Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 I've read that there is, but the issue is ££££. Same with real time data collection from planes. Wonder how the ££££ stack up against a third pilot cost, although banning toilet breaks and making the pilot and copilot piss in a bottle and crap in a carrier bag so as to maintain a presence of two in the cockpit at all times would be cheaper perhaps!
Fox92 Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Wonder how the ££££ stack up against a third pilot cost, although banning toilet breaks and making the pilot and copilot piss in a bottle and crap in a carrier bag so as to maintain a presence of two in the cockpit at all times would be cheaper perhaps! I'm guessing they'd never have even thought about this sort of thing happening but then again you never know how someone is really feeling.
Guest Kopfkino Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Apparently they found a ripped up sick note in his flat
ramboacdc Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Apparently they found a ripped up sick note in his flat what was the sick note for?
Babylon Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 what was the sick note for? They haven't said, put it all points towards depression from the details coming out.
Finnegan Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 They haven't said, put it all points towards depression from the details coming out. So he's depressed? And what?
Tommy G Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 There are hundreds of thousands of people in this country on meds for depression, doesn't mean they all want to sink a plane into the side of a mountain
Guest Kopfkino Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 There are hundreds of thousands of people in this country on meds for depression, doesn't mean they all want to sink a plane into the side of a mountain Well yeah but it's a sick note that started on the day of the crash, it suggests he was hiding something from his employer, be it depression or something worse. It's not an excuse to fly a plane into a mountain but it's an explanation
Babylon Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 So he's depressed? And what? Sorry, what? I was just answering his question. What's your problem?
Rincewind Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 There are several levels and types of depression many hard to spot so who knows what was going through his mind and how he was feeling.
Guest MattP Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Has sympathy started shifting from the passengers to the co-pilot yet? It's about time now i think. After all, he was upset and didn't have his medication.
GaelicFox Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 I'm depressed my team are getting religated But I didn't murder 150 people We will have Stan Collymore the depressed wife beater On talk sport later justifying this bollox
Buce Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Has sympathy started shifting from the passengers to the co-pilot yet? It's about time now i think. After all, he was upset and didn't have his medication. I don't think anybody would reach the point where the co-pilot would be 'sympathised' with: it's simply about looking for an explanation why a seemingly stable man would behave in such an inexplicable way. Depression, as Ken righly says, affects people in different ways: it is far more complicated than 'feeling a bit upset'. Having suffered a major depressive episode during his training, he simply should never have been cleared as being suitable to fly. The job carries such huge responsibility that a predisposition to mental illness should have immediately disqualified him from flying.
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 You don't think there are other pilots or people in jobs of huge responsibility who suffer from depression? So anyone who's ever had or has depression and is in a position of responsibility should be instantly struck off because one lunatic who had depression flied a plane in to a mountain?
Guest Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 What has brought the most worldwide tears this week? French Air Crash or that guy announcing he's leaving 1D? Hearing some of the fans comments makes me want to kick them into reality.
MooseBreath Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Ridiculous to blame depression for mass murder. But let's say we do, if depressed people are potentially mass murderers, never mind stopping them being pilots, shouldn't they all be locked up?
Finnegan Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 I'm depressed my team are getting religated But I didn't murder 150 people We will have Stan Collymore the depressed wife beater On talk sport later justifying this bollox Well this is a ****ing retarded post. Why is there so much stupid one way or the other? Depression is serious. Should not be dismissed as Stan Collymore and his bollocks. Flip side, this guy seems to have been a massive ****. Balance.
stripeyfox Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Depression alone can't account for his actions. It may have been a contributing factor of course, and as others have said, there are probably thousands of pilots on meds for one thing or another safely flying us around the world. His actions were deliberate and measured and controlled. He didn't just push forward on the stick and plunge them into the ground, he reprogrammed the autopilot from 38,0000 feet to 100 feet and then sat back calmly whilst the aircraft "corrected" its course. He had plenty of time to sit there contemplating his actions whilst his colleagues tried in vain to beat the door down - a futile effort thanks to the security measures put in place to protect us all from a repeat of 9/11. Additionally, he obviously knew he was unfit for work as he had sought the advice of a Doctor who signed him off, yet did not declare this to his employer.
Buce Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Ridiculous to blame depression for mass murder. But let's say we do, if depressed people are potentially mass murderers, never mind stopping them being pilots, shouldn't they all be locked up? The human mind is so complicated that, unfortunately, everyone has the potential to behave in a way that will cause harm to others. You included.
Rincewind Posted 27 March 2015 Posted 27 March 2015 Unless you know someone that has suffered depression or suffered from it, it cannot be judged in a flippant way. As Finnegan says it is a 'serious' illness. People with depression are not always aware or open about it. it can not always be spotted by non-qualified people. Depression is not always a case of feeling fed up. It can go much deeper.
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