Bob Weasel Fox Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 Where did I say you had? If it's so obvious then I don't know why people get so arsey about those who don't 'get behind' someone on a forum. Not a particular criticism of you. No worries me old fruit I do think a fair few people get their knickers In a twist on here without proper engage brain discussion first (myself obviously included at times) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 At the start of last season most commentators thought our team and squad were good enough to avoid relegation. Due to Nigel's tactical ineptness for much of the season coupled with poor team selection we failed to live up to expectations for 80% of the season. Quite how we did turn things around, I don't really know, but the team that finished the season was the one that most of us would have picked much sooner! Despite being the highest spenders in the Championship Nigel failed to get us into the playoffs in 2011-12 (I know he was only manager for 6 months of that season but 6th place not a lot to ask for?) and got us there with almost the final kick in 2012-13 only to balls it up at Watford. Yes, he finally got it right and did so again last season. What I am saying is that he was given a lot of time to make his mark (quite rightly) and Claudio has to be given the same opportunities. Here here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 20 July 2015 Share Posted 20 July 2015 At the start of last season most commentators thought our team and squad were good enough to avoid relegation. Due to Nigel's tactical ineptness for much of the season coupled with poor team selection we failed to live up to expectations for 80% of the season. Quite how we did turn things around, I don't really know, but the team that finished the season was the one that most of us would have picked much sooner! Despite being the highest spenders in the Championship Nigel failed to get us into the playoffs in 2011-12 (I know he was only manager for 6 months of that season but 6th place not a lot to ask for?) and got us there with almost the final kick in 2012-13 only to balls it up at Watford. Yes, he finally got it right and did so again last season. What I am saying is that he was given a lot of time to make his mark (quite rightly) and Claudio has to be given the same opportunities. The only difference is that Pearson saw his team achieving safety in his very first full Premier League season (as a newbie, so to speak), whereas Ranieri will be measured against his previous success at the top level to a certain extent. Hypothetically speaking, wouldn't relegation under Ranieri symbolize a crash of relatively epic proportions? I find it somewhat funny that some fans hold Pearson's inexperience (and as a consequence, his "tactical ineptness") against him - the fact alone that we achieved safety in the Premier League with one game to spare shows what a tremendous job he did given the circumstances. I would have loved to give Pearson more time to continue to build what was in the making, sadly the owners felt differently. Also, why do people intentionally forget that the Championship is the hardest (read: most well-balanced) second division in the world. To walk away and getting automatically promoted with a cushion of more than ten points is quite the achievement. Few promoted teams have accumulated 100+ points in that process. Oh, and as for general media consensus on a team's capabilities: The media and more than just a handful of pundits were also rather quick to call us "doomed" and "definite relegation material" when our winless run continued to be extended week after week last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seenitall Posted 21 July 2015 Share Posted 21 July 2015 100% win record so far...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 100% win record so far...... True Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshjana10 Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 delighted to see claudio at the dynamo game on weds eve supporting the young lads, i think its great for them to have a big name like ranieri in the stands watching them and knowing that he bring youth up through the ranks... ben chillwell = john terry anybody? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 delighted to see claudio at the dynamo game on weds eve supporting the young lads, i think its great for them to have a big name like ranieri in the stands watching them and knowing that he bring youth up through the ranks... ben chillwell = john terry anybody? Take my hat off if Claudio was at the U21 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 At the start of last season most commentators thought our team and squad were good enough to avoid relegation. Due to Nigel's tactical ineptness for much of the season coupled with poor team selection we failed to live up to expectations for 80% of the season. Quite how we did turn things around, I don't really know, but the team that finished the season was the one that most of us would have picked much sooner! Despite being the highest spenders in the Championship Nigel failed to get us into the playoffs in 2011-12 (I know he was only manager for 6 months of that season but 6th place not a lot to ask for?) and got us there with almost the final kick in 2012-13 only to balls it up at Watford. Yes, he finally got it right and did so again last season. What I am saying is that he was given a lot of time to make his mark (quite rightly) and Claudio has to be given the same opportunities. Absolute tosh, the vast majority said we would not survive, just as the bookies said we wouldn't. Pearson wasn't the biggest spender was he, that was Sven. One look at the team he assembled and where they all ended up after Pearson managed to get rid, tells you exactly why we didn't reach the play offs. They were lower end of the table quality players at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Has anyone actually said they won't give him a chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanlegend Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 At the start of last season most commentators thought our team and squad were good enough to avoid relegation. Due to Nigel's tactical ineptness for much of the season coupled with poor team selection we failed to live up to expectations for 80% of the season. Quite how we did turn things around, I don't really know, but the team that finished the season was the one that most of us would have picked much sooner! Despite being the highest spenders in the Championship Nigel failed to get us into the playoffs in 2011-12 (I know he was only manager for 6 months of that season but 6th place not a lot to ask for?) and got us there with almost the final kick in 2012-13 only to balls it up at Watford. Yes, he finally got it right and did so again last season. What I am saying is that he was given a lot of time to make his mark (quite rightly) and Claudio has to be given the same opportunities. I think NP's greatest achievement was sorting out the dross team "big spending" Sven left us with. To say we should have been top 6 with players / characters like Mills / beckford / Vassell / Bamba is ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 I think NP's greatest achievement was sorting out the dross team "big spending" Sven left us with. To say we should have been top 6 with players / characters like Mills / beckford / Vassell / Bamba is ridiculous harsh to include Vassell and Bamba in that, both more than pulled their weight just weren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 harsh to include Vassell and Bamba in that, both more than pulled their weight just weren't good enough. So he was right then. Bamba, Vassell, Michael Johnson, Lee Peltier, Sean St Ledger, Neil Danns, Matt Mills, John Panstil, Ricardo, Michael Frigging Ball, Beckford. Good god... look what they all went on to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 So he was right then. Bamba, Vassell, Michael Johnson, Lee Peltier, Sean St Ledger, Neil Danns, Matt Mills, John Panstil, Ricardo, Michael Frigging Ball, Beckford. Good god... look what they all went on to it was that he specified characters, they both seemed quite grounded tbh, sad thing is they both were probably two of Sven's better signings too. Pretty much everyone he signed in the summer bar Nugent and Kasper and Fernandes were absolutely horrific footballers christ. I don't think I'll ever forget the Cov game, even though we won it was blatantly obvious we were ****ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudger63 Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 it was that he specified characters, they both seemed quite grounded tbh, sad thing is they both were probably two of Sven's better signings too. Pretty much everyone he signed in the summer bar Nugent and Kasper and Fernandes were absolutely horrific footballers christ. I don't think I'll ever forget the Cov game, even though we won it was blatantly obvious we were ****ed. Do you also remember the Derby away game, when Yakubu scored his stunning goal, and everyone was purring about the fantastic football we were playing. As has been pointed out, most of Svens signings turned out to be poor, and considering the money he spent, his failure to get us into the play offs , meant his time here will rightly be seen as a failure, where lots of money was wasted, but we did play some good football under him at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 I don't think anyone, in my humble opinion, is ecstatic with the appointment of big Claudio but that said I'm sure most will support him etc etc im genuinely excited, honestly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankieWorthoYaggedMyWife Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Do you also remember the Derby away game, when Yakubu scored his stunning goal, and everyone was purring about the fantastic football we were playing. As has been pointed out, most of Svens signings turned out to be poor, and considering the money he spent, his failure to get us into the play offs , meant his time here will rightly be seen as a failure, where lots of money was wasted, but we did play some good football under him at times. that was the season before though when in fairness we had a real crack at getting in the play offs despite being the pits til November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Do you also remember the Derby away game, when Yakubu scored his stunning goal, and everyone was purring about the fantastic football we were playing. As has been pointed out, most of Svens signings turned out to be poor, and considering the money he spent, his failure to get us into the play offs , meant his time here will rightly be seen as a failure, where lots of money was wasted, but we did play some good football under him at times. oh yeah, I don't doubt. We definitely played some of the best football I've seen us play under him, but that was prior to the summer signings who were absolutely woeful. Naughton and Yakubu were fantastic loans really, still gutted we never got the former on a permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Do you also remember the Derby away game, when Yakubu scored his stunning goal, and everyone was purring about the fantastic football we were playing. . Which was swiftly followed by a woeful performance at home to Norwich then away at Reading. And I wouldn't use Derby ever as an indicator of how good a Leicester team is. It's always a win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Nobody seems to want to come now and Esteban decided not to stay, if he does end up at Villa I think that will say it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Nobody seems to want to come now and Esteban decided not to stay, if he does end up at Villa I think that will say it all And whose fault will that be? The owners, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 And whose fault will that be? The owners, perhaps. Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 The club offered him EC a contract before the end of last season, he had 2 months to sign before Ranieri was our manager. Instead he dragged it out hoping for a better offer from elsewhere, just like he did before last season. If he wanted to be here he would have signed, it's nothing to do with who the manager is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 Better off more financially, or at a bigger status club? I'd say the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapero82 Posted 24 July 2015 Share Posted 24 July 2015 The club offered him EC a contract before the end of last season, he had 2 months to sign before Ranieri was our manager. Instead he dragged it out hoping for a better offer from elsewhere, just like he did before last season. If he wanted to be here he would have signed, it's nothing to do with who the manager is. If he ends up at villa I think it proves you wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 25 July 2015 Share Posted 25 July 2015 The club offered him EC a contract before the end of last season, he had 2 months to sign before Ranieri was our manager. Instead he dragged it out hoping for a better offer from elsewhere, just like he did before last season. If he wanted to be here he would have signed, it's nothing to do with who the manager is. Another massive assumption! The final proposal, the one he rejected, was made 24 hours before we found out that he wasn't returning. After weeks of reports that he was waiting to see who the new manager was. Maybe he wouldn't have signed for Pearson either (though he had signed for him once before, and was still on holiday when Pearson was fired, and had said he'd need time to make his mind up), maybe it had nothing to do with Ranieri (though in his astonishingly successful career at Inter he enjoyed one of his least successful seasons under Ranieri), but to be as positive as you are - especially when he may well yet sign for a side that finished in a similar position to us last year - and without any information whatsoever to back up your claim, is frankly extraordinary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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