Callabinho Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 I already said as much on the Wood thread. I don't think he'll come to Wolves either for exactly the reasons I've mentioned. Wood is a good player, he's been unfortunate if anything over the last few years. When he is on his A game he scores for fun, I'm very disappointed that he hasn't fulfilled his full potential here.
Carl the Llama Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 It's a lot of money for a Championship club and it is difficult to see that being spent on him if he's only going as cover. Perhaps Jackett really rates him and plans to start him? Either way it's outrageous we could get £2.5m considering what we paid for him with him being a failure here, one year left on his contract and our 6th choice striker. I wouldn't say he's a failure here, just out of favour with all the other options available. Guaranteed to score goals in the Champs so you can see why teams would be willing to pay more for him now that he's matured a bit and gained a kernel of Prem experience to boot.
Gerard Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 I wouldn't say he's a failure here, just out of favour with all the other options available. Guaranteed to score goals in the Champs so you can see why teams would be willing to pay more for him now that he's matured a bit and gained a kernel of Prem experience to boot. Well he's performed below expectations so that makes him a failure in my book. I'm not saying he's a bad player but as a Premier League club we have outgrown him and he failed to keep up to pace with us. To get twice what we paid for him when he hasn't lived up to expectations is Chelseaesque.
Bagworthblue Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 It's a lot of money for a Championship club and it is difficult to see that being spent on him if he's only going as cover. Perhaps Jackett really rates him and plans to start him? Either way it's outrageous we could get £2.5m considering what we paid for him with him being a failure here, one year left on his contract and our 6th choice striker. Wasn't Jackett the Milwall Manager Wood was on loan to who scored a shedload of goals for before xmas when we signed him!!
MC Prussian Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 Well he's performed below expectations so that makes him a failure in my book. I'm not saying he's a bad player but as a Premier League club we have outgrown him and he failed to keep up to pace with us. To get twice what we paid for him when he hasn't lived up to expectations is Chelseaesque. How can you label Wood a "failure" when he's not been given a fair amount of games in the Premier League to prove his worth? We'll never know the exact reasons why he didn't feature more often last season, but one can assume the management didn't deem him top-level ready yet. The way you make it sound it's basically just Wood's mistake. He has his qualities, as seen in the 2013/2014 season. And that still makes him a worthwile addition to any Championship squad (that can afford him).
sylofox Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 How can you label Wood a "failure" when he's not been given a fair amount of games in the Premier League to prove his worth? We'll never know the exact reasons why he didn't feature more often last season, but one can assume the management didn't deem him top-level ready yet. The way you make it sound it's basically just Wood's mistake. He has his qualities, as seen in the 2013/2014 season. And that still makes him a worthwile addition to any Championship squad (that can afford him). Easy really he could not get in our championship side. Obvious he was not good enough for the prem as nige agreed a sale that he refused. Ends up on loan at Ipswich and was lucky to be even getting on the bench for them in the end. Yes he had a great start for his first 6 or 7 games with us but has done fvck all consistent since. The sooner he moves on the better for both parties.
Carlos88LCFC Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 Easy really he could not get in our championship side. Obvious he was not good enough for the prem as nige agreed a sale that he refused. Ends up on loan at Ipswich and was lucky to be even getting on the bench for them in the end. Yes he had a great start for his first 6 or 7 games with us but has done fvck all consistent since. The sooner he moves on the better for both parties. Bit harsh. He has a great attitude and as stated didn't get a fair crack at it and isn't really a good striker for the way we play. If he does move on, I wish him all the best. Didn't mind sitting on the bench, never in the press about lack of game time and always put in a shift when called upon. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Callabinho Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 I think we need to discuss the long term financial implications this proposed transfer may have on the club.
Ashley Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 I think we need to discuss the long term financial implications this proposed transfer may have on the club. Has this not been dicussed earlier in the thread?
Guest Cujek Posted 28 June 2015 Posted 28 June 2015 I think we need to discuss the long term financial implications this proposed transfer may have on the club. Why are you saying this on every thread? Once as a joke on an unrealistic transfer target, but come on mate.
Tielemans63 Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Merc says he's agreed terms with us - £50k a week - but has also agreed terms with Everton but he's in no rush to make a decision. £50k a week would surely make him either the highest or second highest earner in the squad. He better deliver the goods if the likes of Huth, Kasper, Mahrez, Leo etc are all getting paid significantly less than him.
HowardsBulletHeader Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Merc says he's agreed terms with us - £50k a week - but has also agreed terms with Everton but he's in no rush to make a decision. £50k a week would surely make him either the highest or second highest earner in the squad. He better deliver the goods if the likes of Huth, Kasper, Mahrez, Leo etc are all getting paid significantly less than him. If that's the case, I'd be off to Everton if I were him.
Ric Flair Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 He'll sign for us, he'll be about 8th choice at best at Everton.
Finn Claw II Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Doesn't have to move the family to come to us (or Villa or WBA). 50k but you can look at that as higher wages due to no transfer fee. As long as it doesn't upset the team dynamics \ moral I've no real problem with this.
Stevosevic Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Doesn't have to move the family to come to us (or Villa or WBA). 50k but you can look at that as higher wages due to no transfer fee. As long as it doesn't upset the team dynamics \ moral I've no real problem with this. It will though, From a players perspective, it's not their choice whether they transfer for a fee or not so why should they be punished by it?
Babylon Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 ugh. doesn't excite me, especially not for the money. Would you prefer he was 25k a week and a fee of £3.9m? That would be exactly the same outlay over three years as £50k a week. The club look at the package and not just wages.
Leeds Fox Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 It will though, From a players perspective, it's not their choice whether they transfer for a fee or not so why should they be punished by it? When they tie themselves in for years for the most money they can get at the time, they do have a say in whether and when they'll be able to leave a club for free.
AKCJ Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Would you prefer he was 25k a week and a fee of £3.9m? That would be exactly the same outlay over three years as £50k a week. The club look at the package and not just wages. No, because like you said, that would be the same outlay. He's not good enough. I'd probably have him on a free but on much lower wages (the 20k mark).
Babylon Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 No, because like you said, that would be the same outlay. He's not good enough. I'd probably have him on a free but on much lower wages (the 20k mark). Well someone with his record in the champ last year would go for £3/£4m any day of the week, and probably earn themselves £20 / £25k easily enough. The total we pay will be around what his actual value is. There is too much focus on the high wages rather than the package. If you don't think he's good enough then nothing will convince you, but his record in the league below, and other transfers over the last few years say that's about what his total worth would be.
Silverdaz Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Have we signed him?, because this transfer has gone very quiet
artursteppe Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Is it just a little intriguing that Cambiasso, Hammond and Sako are all (I think), out of contract tomorrow, yet all at some stage or other during the summer have been expected to choose to sign for Leicester? On top of that there is not one specific club that I am aware of who is close to any of them, or which has been closely linked to any of them. News tomorrow perhaps?
cjslcfc Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 I've seen people worrying about the money across a lot of threads now. While it's a valid point, I really don't think we need to worry massively about the money we pay players in wages or the money we pay to buy players. The club has got to a stage now where it is willing and able to offer large sums of money for players. Because of the market we are in you end up overpaying for players. Anyway how do you truly gauge how much a player is worth? IMO, the question you need to be first asking is "will he improve us as a team" or "is he better than what we already have?" unless it's clearly a signing for the future or a signing of a squad player. In this case I do think Sako is a player that could improve us. We hardly have a plethora of options on the wing (and yes, we aren't necessarily going to continue with our current formation so we do need wingers). From what I've seen of him he is a dangerous player on his day. The problem I have is his inconsistency. However, I do feel that Pearson could get him to be more consistent. Who cares what he's going to be paid, that's for those who run the club to decide. In business matters, I trust the owners etc... to get it right. He certainly has the ability to be a hit at PL level with pace, power, strength and good technical ability. Should he sign let's hope Nige can get this out of him more often.
Finn Claw II Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 Kasper (and a few other of our players) were in a similar position to Sako last season. Out of contract after a very good championship season. Would we have minded if we paid Kasper £50k? I get the package point but you have to wary about the impact on team dynamics as well. We can afford it, but is it what we should be doing? The first person any player would point to in future contract negotiations is Sako.
Jacnah Posted 30 June 2015 Posted 30 June 2015 He'll sign for us, he'll be about 8th choice at best at Everton. which, I would surmise, will be why he wont be on £50k p.w.
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