Premier League stars' racist orgy shame caught on camera during Thailand tour

[thybluefox]

Seems the only 'news outlet' still hammering this story is the Leicester Mercury, they're riding this for all its worth. 

[Monsell1976]

They do, I'm sure it has been said the issue will be resolved before the end of the week

Most likely as they're not big names, but it wouldn't take much to track the girls down or the girl's parents and run a story, it could have legs for as long as they want it to. Can't imagine LCFC is a big seller of papers nationwide though and especially not development squad players.

Really? He has a lot of respect in the press from everyone I've heard, other than Stringer who's ametuer hour at best?

Pat Murphy was only doing his job goading him, although the rest of the press in the room thought it was an unfair line of questioning

Really, I don't think you earn respect by calling people names, and swearing at them, goaded or not, I think the only reason they like him if they do, is they know if they push his buttons, it's a easy story.

I hope they don't go down the lines of trying to sell papers on how we lack discipline, but we all know how low the press will go to sell papers.

[m4DD0gg]

Hopper would not be the first shite player to make it as a porn star

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Mountain

[indierich06]

As a media analyst, I have a passing interest in how long a story can 'run for' and I can tell you now that since coverage peaked on 31 May, coverage has dropped off massively - we're talking about a decrease of about 92%. I don't buy that Blatter's resignation has had anything to do with it either, because news articles/blogs mentioning the story had dropped by 88% even before that.

 

There will likely be another spike once the club announces its decision, but after one or two days, coverage will drop off hugely again. The only thing that could make the story run is if the players go to the papers (they won't as there will likely be NDAs written into their contracts) or if the club management/owners give interviews about it (why on earth would they?) or if the papers manage to find the girls in Thailand and they're willing to talk (doubt even Nationals would go to the expense - maybe for first team regulars, but not just for a story about some U21s).

 

So, in short, I really can't see this one 'running and running' - the nationals have a short attention span, there'll be some other scandal or story that they'll latch on to before long.

[CosbehFox]

As a media analyst, I have a passing interest in how long a story can 'run for' and I can tell you now that since coverage peaked on 31 May, coverage has dropped off massively - we're talking about a decrease of about 92%. I don't buy that Blatter's resignation has had anything to do with it either, because news articles/blogs mentioning the story had dropped by 88% even before that.

There will likely be another spike once the club announces its decision, but after one or two days, coverage will drop off hugely again. The only thing that could make the story run is if the players go to the papers (they won't as there will likely be NDAs written into their contracts) or if the club management/owners give interviews about it (why on earth would they?) or if the papers manage to find the girls in Thailand and they're willing to talk (doubt even Nationals would go to the expense - maybe for first team regulars, but not just for a story about some U21s).

So, in short, I really can't see this one 'running and running' - the nationals have a short attention span, there'll be some other scandal or story that they'll latch on to before long.

I said earlier on in the thread; other incidents of this ilk last about a week. Foreign outlets took a day later. The story is dying now until its conclusion. I don't know whether anyone saw but Kick It Out has approved of the clubs action taken so far.

The writing is on the wall when you consider two of the player are 22 but playing for the Under 21s...

[gerrytaggart]

Maybe you're right. Kevin Keegan played for Scunthorpe and he had 1970s porn star hair.

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Actually Gerry, looking at your avatar and Kevin are you by any chance related?

Not by blood.

[David Guiza]

Interesting comment on the Indie article -

 

'It is beyond doubt that these young women were prostitutes. 'Normal' Thai women do not walk down the street holding hands with their boyfriends, or even husbands.
When a former young colleague of mine fell in love with a girl, who was working at the same university, where we were teaching; he had to visit her parents, ask their permission to date their daughter and then for the first few outings, be chaperoned by grandma, walking ten metres behind the young couple. Ten years later, they're happily married.
It is sadly true, that many young Thai women, mostly from poor rural areas, with only a basic education, or abandoned young wives, with children, often have very few choices in order to get by, so end up selling their most saleable asset, their beauty and Thailand has a curiously two faced set of standards, surrounding prostitution.
It is an extremely ancient practice (as in most other countries), but in Thailand, it only became high profile, blatent and western orientated during the Vietnam war - then the sex industry became almost industrialized. Before this time, prostitution was largely hidden or low profile (as in the west), although it was common for richer Thai men to have "little wives" 
It is true that for the lucky few, the business offers a way out of grinding poverty, a future for their children and possible contentment. Thai men will never take on another man's child, whereas it is often true, that western men will accept and indeed marry a woman with children; so western husbands, or clients are well sought after.
However, for every lucky woman to get out and find a future, there are thousands more who do not. The sex tourism face of Thai prostitution, is the premier league (forgive the pun), but the business has a far darker side, especially involving trafficked women from, even poorer neighbouring countries - Burma, Cambodia and Laos. The lot of these women is often appalling.
I have heard western men, not all young and handsome at that, boast about how Thai women really find them attractive. Maybe it's the disarming smiles, or simple self delusion, that makes a tubby, fifty plus, pallid, balding bloke, really believe that a twenty-two year old Thai girl, is going to fall head over heels for him.
For the girls, it's just business and a shot at a future and they'll willingly sacrifice "love" for the chance of security.
These young footballers, with more cash in their wallets, than most Thais will ever see in a lifetime, would have been able to buy anything they ever dreamed of and probably plenty, even their twisted, over-inflated egos, could not imagine. 
These women were for sale, but to them it was just business and seperate from their true selves. They would not have been embarrassed or ashamed by their actions; it was about making a living.
I think it's quite clear which parties are suffering the biggest humiliation here and quite deservedly so; for their breathtaking arrogance, ignorance and idiocy.'

 

Hopper will likely go, Pearson is out of contract and Smith will go/face some sort of punishment and it'll be forgotten soon enough. The last line is most poignant to me, I'd be utterly embarrased if that was me (not that I'd ever do anything even remotely similar).

[Gerard]

Bottom line is who cares about news about people they've never heard of?

 

Unless of course the story is shocking.

 

Three lads in their early 20's shagging prostitutes in Thailand doesn't carry much legs of keeping the public's attention. 

[Merging Cultures]

Interesting comment on the Indie article -

 

'It is beyond doubt that these young women were prostitutes. 'Normal' Thai women do not walk down the street holding hands with their boyfriends, or even husbands.

When a former young colleague of mine fell in love with a girl, who was working at the same university, where we were teaching; he had to visit her parents, ask their permission to date their daughter and then for the first few outings, be chaperoned by grandma, walking ten metres behind the young couple. Ten years later, they're happily married.

It is sadly true, that many young Thai women, mostly from poor rural areas, with only a basic education, or abandoned young wives, with children, often have very few choices in order to get by, so end up selling their most saleable asset, their beauty and Thailand has a curiously two faced set of standards, surrounding prostitution.

It is an extremely ancient practice (as in most other countries), but in Thailand, it only became high profile, blatent and western orientated during the Vietnam war - then the sex industry became almost industrialized. Before this time, prostitution was largely hidden or low profile (as in the west), although it was common for richer Thai men to have "little wives" 

It is true that for the lucky few, the business offers a way out of grinding poverty, a future for their children and possible contentment. Thai men will never take on another man's child, whereas it is often true, that western men will accept and indeed marry a woman with children; so western husbands, or clients are well sought after.

However, for every lucky woman to get out and find a future, there are thousands more who do not. The sex tourism face of Thai prostitution, is the premier league (forgive the pun), but the business has a far darker side, especially involving trafficked women from, even poorer neighbouring countries - Burma, Cambodia and Laos. The lot of these women is often appalling.

I have heard western men, not all young and handsome at that, boast about how Thai women really find them attractive. Maybe it's the disarming smiles, or simple self delusion, that makes a tubby, fifty plus, pallid, balding bloke, really believe that a twenty-two year old Thai girl, is going to fall head over heels for him.

For the girls, it's just business and a shot at a future and they'll willingly sacrifice "love" for the chance of security.

These young footballers, with more cash in their wallets, than most Thais will ever see in a lifetime, would have been able to buy anything they ever dreamed of and probably plenty, even their twisted, over-inflated egos, could not imagine. 

These women were for sale, but to them it was just business and seperate from their true selves. They would not have been embarrassed or ashamed by their actions; it was about making a living.

I think it's quite clear which parties are suffering the biggest humiliation here and quite deservedly so; for their breathtaking arrogance, ignorance and idiocy.'

 

Hopper will likely go, Pearson is out of contract and Smith will go/face some sort of punishment and it'll be forgotten soon enough. The last line is most poignant to me, I'd be utterly embarrased if that was me (not that I'd ever do anything even remotely similar).

 

I read that too and believe the outcomes you describe are most likely to happen.

[Babylon]

As a media analyst, I have a passing interest in how long a story can 'run for' and I can tell you now that since coverage peaked on 31 May, coverage has dropped off massively - we're talking about a decrease of about 92%. I don't buy that Blatter's resignation has had anything to do with it either, because news articles/blogs mentioning the story had dropped by 88% even before that.

 

There will likely be another spike once the club announces its decision, but after one or two days, coverage will drop off hugely again. The only thing that could make the story run is if the players go to the papers (they won't as there will likely be NDAs written into their contracts) or if the club management/owners give interviews about it (why on earth would they?) or if the papers manage to find the girls in Thailand and they're willing to talk (doubt even Nationals would go to the expense - maybe for first team regulars, but not just for a story about some U21s).

 

So, in short, I really can't see this one 'running and running' - the nationals have a short attention span, there'll be some other scandal or story that they'll latch on to before long.

 

I'm glad someone else in the industry agrees with me.

 

Although if we do sign Fuchs I expect it to peak again thanks to the obvious pun.

[Babylon]

Seems the only 'news outlet' still hammering this story is the Leicester Mercury, they're riding this for all its worth. 

The mercury are so far behind every other media outlet it's not a surprise.

[Wymsey]

Didn't stop us in signing a Champions League experience player.

 

Time to move on, and certainly the media.

[Stevosevic]

Bored of this story now, it's had its day.

First signing, eyes back on the football

[sphericalfox]

My mate over in Asia, who knows Thailand well, says that actually the Thai people are 'take it easy' kind of people, and that '...really no big deal for the U21 as much as he hears.' Given he's a football editor over there, I'm going to trust him over the red tops here and in Bangkok.

[Guest MarshallForEngland]

Some of the overreactions on this thread were so shocking that I had to watch the rimming again to take my mind off it.

[MC Prussian]

James Pearson's best piece will always come back at night to haunt me in my nightmares.

[CosbehFox]

The Sun set to publish the tale of bed hopping Papiss Cisse tomorrow....

[Rincewind]

Well this thread has at last dropped  from the top story. A few days ago I could not keep up with the posts. Although it is 1am now and I have only checked the last page.On page 66 now. The subject will drop off at 69.

[Soar Fox]

Well this thread has at last dropped from the top story. A few days ago I could not keep up with the posts. Although it is 1am now and I have only checked the last page.On page 66 now. The subject will drop off at 69.

If you want the uncensored version of the video Ken just ask.

[st albans fox]

My mate over in Asia, who knows Thailand well, says that actually the Thai people are 'take it easy' kind of people, and that '...really no big deal for the U21 as much as he hears.' Given he's a football editor over there, I'm going to trust him over the red tops here and in Bangkok.

This is true - I tried to make the point when this broke. It's a strange place where two polar opposite attitudes sit side by side, quite comfortably.

Fixtures out in less than two weeks. next!

[Rincewind]

If you want the uncensored version of the video Ken just ask.

Not really.

[Soar Fox]

Eiffel fvcking tower

[Guest MattP]

Eiffel fvcking tower

 

 

James Pearson actually uses the same bookies as me and I'm going to struggle not to shout this when I see him next.

[yossarian]

Come on "media analyst" .... dont you think there havent been journalists all over the protagonists (in Thailand and here) trying to get a story (and, for sure, a photo).  But there has been a brilliant news blackout by the owners and the club - who knows where they all are but they are all well hidden from public scrutiny  And when they are forced to surface .... well, it will still be the great story a cocktail of seediness like this always is

[The Doctor]

Come on "media analyst" .... dont you think there havent been journalists all over the protagonists (in Thailand and here) trying to get a story (and, for sure, a photo). But there has been a brilliant news blackout by the owners and the club - who knows where they all are but they are all well hidden from public scrutiny And when they are forced to surface .... well, it will still be the great story a cocktail of seediness like this always is

It really won't - the major story has been and gone, and these are nothing youngsters, not recognisable names