Tielemans63 Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 We paid 5 and a half for benalouane? He's an absolute clogger and an idiot, almost cost us 3 points with his ****ery. He even hasn't played an hour in a Leicester shirt yet - sweet baby Jebus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazzyfox Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 You'd expect it to be easier to attract players this summer than last due to the footballing world witnessing what we're made of last season and being less concerned about our likelihood of relegation but on the other hand it gets harder and harder to find players who are better than what we already have in most positions. I remember the position O'neill got in at Villa (and with us to a degree) where he would need to spend 6-7 million to upgrade any position. 4-5 million bought them squad players but didn't improve the starting 11 or take them to the next level. Overall a very tidy summer, would just like some better cover than Simpson at right back and a fifth striker but to be a competitive 5th striker amongst our current options you're talking big money again (there's a guy at Boro, always laughing, good link up play, Nugget or something like that, valued around four and a half million....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 I bet Fred Goodwin had served his apprenticeship too. I think the point Babylon is making is that none of us can really know if he is doing a good or bad job because we don't have enough information. Fred Goodwin did and HE ****ED UP Rudkin did and as the "director of football" is doing ok now Who knows maybe Ranieri is only a puppet and Top is picking the team , of course that's crazy but it still fits under "no one really knows what's going on" I think the man is doing a fantastic job as he did with academy etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 We paid 5 and a half for benalouane? He's an absolute clogger and an idiot, almost cost us 3 points with his ****ery. How can you judge a player after his played about 40 mins as a sub across two games...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 We paid 5 and a half for benalouane? He's an absolute clogger and an idiot, almost cost us 3 points with his ****ery. Surely this isn't a serious post? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Year Of The Fox Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 I can't stand him! He is smarby and arrogant. I heard he played a huge role in Pearsons sacking and I hate him for it! He has failed task 1 as far as I am concerned. Keep the team and squad together. Well knockeart has left, cambiasso said he doesn't fancy it and Pearson has been fired, all since he took over his job role. Good job tour doing there John! Heard this too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank to be Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 Funny reading some of the pessimism from a few weeks back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 I didn't skip over it at all, I'll admit I misread it. I thought he meant the category one status that was recently gained.No worries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 17 August 2015 Share Posted 17 August 2015 Surprised some of you lot haven't blamed him for the Thai incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxhateram Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 Funny reading some of the pessimism from a few weeks back I stand by my pessimism towards him. Our scouts play the majority of our recruitment process, Rudkin just gets them to sign on the dotted line. Owners have had to stump up a lot more dough this close season to secure these players your all talking about. If it doesn't pay off, then there will be a lot of people out the door come next July. Owners expect top half finish after their investment. (As with all info take it or leave it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merging Cultures Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 I stand by my pessimism towards him. Our scouts play the majority of our recruitment process, Rudkin just gets them to sign on the dotted line. Owners have had to stump up a lot more dough this close season to secure these players your all talking about. If it doesn't pay off, then there will be a lot of people out the door come next July. Owners expect top half finish after their investment. (As with all info take it or leave it)Paying more each season is always going to happen. Especially with the new TV deal for next year. Everyone knows teams in the PL have lots of money, and that it is increasing.Last year we complained we didn't sign enough people or deals fell through. This year we are presumably spending more to make deals happen. Yet we are still complaining. The amounts we are paying or rumoured to be offering are not that high in PL terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 I was one who thought we needed to show some urgency in our close season preparations and especially the signing up of new players but I don't think Rudkin's done badly so far, as a seemingly important cog in our recruitment machine. He'll never find favour with some because of his perceived "distance" from our then manager but he's certainly run the Academy acceptably and even successfully in some ways. I still don't think we've brought enough players past the final hurdles of development up to first team level level even accepting that the required standards are improving dramatically now but Rudkin might think it's hardly his fault or responsibility once they become seniors although that might have changed of late. No, at first glance I'm delighted with our signings and never expected us to get everyone we were chasing. I just hope we keep the standard up and keep competing, which it appears we are doing admirably so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 I was one who thought we needed to show some urgency in our close season preparations and especially the signing up of new players but I don't think Rudkin's done badly so far, as a seemingly important cog in our recruitment machine. He'll never find favour with some because of his perceived "distance" from our then manager but he's certainly run the Academy acceptably and even successfully in some ways. I still don't think we've brought enough players past the final hurdles of development up to first team level level even accepting that the required standards are improving dramatically now but Rudkin might think it's hardly his fault or responsibility once they become seniors although that might have changed of late. No, at first glance I'm delighted with our signings and never expected us to get everyone we were chasing. I just hope we keep the standard up and keep competing, which it appears we are doing admirably so far. Whilst we're bumming Rudkin... Is it ok to blame him for releasing the likes of Tomlin and Clucas who sold for about £5m this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 Whilst we're bumming Rudkin... Is it ok to blame him for releasing the likes of Tomlin and Clucas who sold for about £5m this summer? I'd have thought it's okay yeah. Swings and roundabouts isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 Whilst we're bumming Rudkin... Is it ok to blame him for releasing the likes of Tomlin and Clucas who sold for about £5m this summer? The man who never made mistakes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian S Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 The man who never made mistakes..... According to you Pearson made one with Gradel and it did not stop you slagging him off for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 I didn't say "mistakes" didn't attract comment or criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain... Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 Whilst we're bumming Rudkin... Is it ok to blame him for releasing the likes of Tomlin and Clucas who sold for about £5m this summer? That was 10 and 8 years ago, if he hadn't released them they arguably wouldn't be worth millions now as they would have stagnated and not got a chance here, even if they had stayed at the club, we couldn't have sold them for millions as they wouldn't be in our team so we would be looking to offload. Or they would have left for free when their contract expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 18 August 2015 Share Posted 18 August 2015 That was 10 and 8 years ago, if he hadn't released them they arguably wouldn't be worth millions now as they would have stagnated and not got a chance here, even if they had stayed at the club, we couldn't have sold them for millions as they wouldn't be in our team so we would be looking to offload. Or they would have left for free when their contract expired. Or they could have stayed, played well and got in the first team... point being not knowing the facts doesn't seem to stop being either being up his bum or down his throat depending on which was the window is blowing this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 19 August 2015 Share Posted 19 August 2015 From Gokhan Inler's first interview: “The manager was important for me, also the director, Jon Rudkin, and the owners. For me the whole package was very positive because they wanted me and now I’ll give everything. For me it was not so easy because I had many, many teams [chasing me] but in the end I decided with my heart and I came to Leicester City.” I thought it would be a bit odd if he didn't have a major say in recruitment. I have no opinion on the guy either way I just thought that he has copped some unnecessary stick over the summer yet he's clearly played a significant role in getting a top class international player to join us otherwise why would Inler mention him personally? Seems to me the guy is doing a decent job. Would people rather we had Super Terry Robinson at the helm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozartfox Posted 19 August 2015 Share Posted 19 August 2015 Give credit, where credit it is due, he has done a sound job this window (apart from getting that Anderson chap involved in the failed Aranguiz transfer debacle). Lets face it, none us know what really goes on behind the scenes, including the so called members of #ITK society. And dealing with some of these Football Agents must be as painful as watching Florest every week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thracian Posted 19 August 2015 Share Posted 19 August 2015 We appear to have succeeded in landing a high proportion of our targets and muscled out a few notable opponents on the way. It's hard to recall us ever having such a productive signing period and, in time, it might be regarded as the time when our club first showed signs of transforming itself from "modest" to "top class". I don't see this is a five minute wonder either. I think our owners have gradually put the structure in place for us be a threat at any level for a long time and not before time. It's not just the ambition of the owners that impresses but the way they back up their words with actions - time and again. What chance the next 10 years being the most exciting we've ever had? And to my mind Rudkin's playing his part for all that he might not be the most popular suit in the corridor to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 19 August 2015 Share Posted 19 August 2015 We appear to have succeeded in landing a high proportion of our targets and muscled out a few notable opponents on the way. It's hard to recall us ever having such a productive signing period and, in time, it might be regarded as the time when our club first showed signs of transforming itself from "modest" to "top class". I don't this this is a five minute wonder either. I think our owners have gradually put the structure in place for us be a thrat at any level for a long time and not before time. It's not just the ambition of the owners that impresses but the way they back up their words with actions - time and again. What chance the next 10 years being the most exciting we've ever had? And to my mind Rudkin's playing his part for all that he might not be the most popular suit in the coridor to some. Watford have signed quite a few international players and beaten a few respected foreign clubs for their signatures - but what chance have they got?It's certainly fine beating decent clubs for higher calibre players, but the key is that they have to INTEGRATE with how fellow team members play successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoustonFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 Watford have signed quite a few international players and beaten a few respected foreign clubs for their signatures - but what chance have they got? It's certainly fine beating decent clubs for higher calibre players, but the key is that they have to INTEGRATE with how fellow team members play successfully. Let's focus on our team rather than Watford. We clearly have a recruitment and it is working. I'd say that's a team effort with Walsh, the manager and Rudkin. Yes we lost out on a few but we aren't buying as randomly as Watford for example. Out of those they bought, they already pretty much owned Vyddra, Juanfran has been loaned back out and Capoue never really did a lot for Spurs. I'm also not ruling them out, I think if anything, they could be the ones to stay up. They have the firepower like we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaelicFox Posted 20 August 2015 Share Posted 20 August 2015 watching ed Woodward the bumbling fool at the so called worlds biggest club anyone standing by stupid statements about John need to have a frontal lobe lobotomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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