Foxxed Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 He left on fairly acrimonious terms. Would rather sell than keep someone who may upset the team. Hoffenheim look like they may stay up. Surely they'll want to buy if he's seen as Hoffenheim's Huth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 He left on fairly acrimonious terms. Would rather sell than keep someone who may upset the team. Hoffenheim look like they may stay up. Surely they'll want to buy if he's seen as Hoffenheim's Huth. Proof? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 Proof? http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/topic/104142-kramaric-on-loan-to-hoffenheim/page-3#entry3720023 Makes him seem fairly pissed off. Didn't someone say our Twitter account then unfollowed him -- that could be a joke though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannnnn Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 I'm from Croatia so I know a little bit about Kramarić and I have to say - he must be the most unfortunate player I have ever known. He's the product of Dinamo Zagreb's academy where he broke all goalscoring records in the youth teams. Despite that, he never really got a chance there (probably due to non-footballing reasons, i.e. he didn't have the club boss' son as agent). He then moved on loan to another Croatian team where he was first team and did pretty well scoring 15 goals in 32 games and developing quickly. It seemed like another big Dinamo's talent is under way. I could easily see him killing it the next season or season and a half in Dinamo before the club couldn't hold him anymore and he's sold for 15M+ to a top Premier League or Bundesliga club. A scenario Dinamo Zagreb is very familiar with in the recent years. But Kramarić being Kramarić this is not what happened. It is totally crazy but for some reason (I've given the only imaginable one above) Dinamo didn't hold onto him but sold him to league rivals which was the clubs worst decision I remember. Kramarić had a great season, getting better and better and ended scoring 16 in 24 matches and winning the best player of the league award (if I remember correctly, even there he was benched at the beginning of the season ). He continued where he left of in the next season breaking all records scoring 21 goals in half a season (18 games) and 5 in the group stages of Europa League. He scored when he wanted and it's not like his team was winning every game 5:0. No one ever dominated the league like this. And I have no doubts that he would have continued playing like this if he stayed there. You might say the Croatian league is not very strong and it's true. But whenever someone dominated the league he went on and had a great career. For example Mandžukić. In his last season he scored 14 in 24 playing for a better club then Andrej. Eduardo went to Arsenal after being the best. Modrić and Ćorluka to Tottenham, Badelj - HSV. Kovačić and Brozović went to Inter, Halilović - Barcelona, Jedvaj - Bayer Leverkusen, Šubašić - Monaco. All of the letter didn't show half of what Andrej did. At this point every top 10 club of the European top 5 leagues should have been after him. Yet all he got was Leicester . (well, and Chelsea). Crazy! Even now, I can't believe he went to Hoffenheim?! This is a guy who if he played for a mid or top table German club would score 20+ goals in his first season (don't know why but Croatian players traditionally adapt to the German league easily). He will reach world class level sooner or later. Someone just needs to play him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xen Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 He left on fairly acrimonious terms. Would rather sell than keep someone who may upset the team. Hoffenheim look like they may stay up. Surely they'll want to buy if he's seen as Hoffenheim's Huth. He seemed perfectly happy with the rest of the squad when they were all celebrating in Amsterdam before Christmas... He was unhappy with his playing time but wasn't showing ensquad in training to break into the squad ahead of ulloa and shinji, so he was sent off on loan to get that gametime. If we're in the CL next season, he will be needed again. We will certainly buy other forwards, but especially now he's starting to get a bit of form he'll come back to a Leicester side which has a role set out for him. I can't see us selling him, personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozwin Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 I reckon he's just so ultra laid back that it comes across as not caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 I've seen hundreds of players who were talented like Krameric but still never made it simply because they either had an attitude problem or couldn't handle the rough and tumble of top flight football. Campare him to Mahrez. He came with a reputation, cost a lot more, is here longer, and never made the step up. Mahrez on the other hand showed glimpses of why we signed him when he got a chance. Then this season came out fully prepared for the challenge ahead. Right from the start it was clear that he had put the work in during preseason to enable him to meet the challenge. Now he's justifiably getting the adulation and rewards he deserves. What I really like about him is I've never heard him complain once about anything. These are some of the qualities top players have in their locker. Now contrast him with Krameric. Why couldn't Krameric do the same. When he's got a game he done or showed very little. He hasn't looked any stronger which I was expecting which means he hasn't been working out hard enough. He's even been mardi at times moaning about not getting games or being substituted in games. Which does him no favours. Do I think he can have a future with us, yes I do. I think he could make a good number 10 in the David Silva mould. Whether he will is all down to him. By excelling at Hoffenheim and coming back with a better attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 I'm from Croatia so I know a little bit about Kramarić and I have to say - he must be the most unfortunate player I have ever known. He's the product of Dinamo Zagreb's academy where he broke all goalscoring records in the youth teams. Despite that, he never really got a chance there (probably due to non-footballing reasons, i.e. he didn't have the club boss' son as agent). He then moved on loan to another Croatian team where he was first team and did pretty well scoring 15 goals in 32 games and developing quickly. It seemed like another big Dinamo's talent is under way. I could easily see him killing it the next season or season and a half in Dinamo before the club couldn't hold him anymore and he's sold for 15M+ to a top Premier League or Bundesliga club. A scenario Dinamo Zagreb is very familiar with in the recent years. But Kramarić being Kramarić this is not what happened. It is totally crazy but for some reason (I've given the only imaginable one above) Dinamo didn't hold onto him but sold him to league rivals which was the clubs worst decision I remember. Kramarić had a great season, getting better and better and ended scoring 16 in 24 matches and winning the best player of the league award (if I remember correctly, even there he was benched at the beginning of the season ). He continued where he left of in the next season breaking all records scoring 21 goals in half a season (18 games) and 5 in the group stages of Europa League. He scored when he wanted and it's not like his team was winning every game 5:0. No one ever dominated the league like this. And I have no doubts that he would have continued playing like this if he stayed there. You might say the Croatian league is not very strong and it's true. But whenever someone dominated the league he went on and had a great career. For example Mandžukić. In his last season he scored 14 in 24 playing for a better club then Andrej. Eduardo went to Arsenal after being the best. Modrić and Ćorluka to Tottenham, Badelj - HSV. Kovačić and Brozović went to Inter, Halilović - Barcelona, Jedvaj - Bayer Leverkusen, Šubašić - Monaco. All of the letter didn't show half of what Andrej did. At this point every top 10 club of the European top 5 leagues should have been after him. Yet all he got was Leicester . (well, and Chelsea). Crazy! Even now, I can't believe he went to Hoffenheim?! This is a guy who if he played for a mid or top table German club would score 20+ goals in his first season (don't know why but Croatian players traditionally adapt to the German league easily). He will reach world class level sooner or later. Someone just needs to play him! I was really pleased when we signed him. He was linked with some of the best clubs in Europe. He was the top goalscorer in Europe after Ronaldo. A hat-trick against Feyenoord in the Europa League. And he came from a country with great footballing pedigree. After seeing him play though he does have a lot of talent but lacks real pace and strength and you probably need at least one of those to prosper in the Premier League. The fact that he was fourth choice striker to Okazaki & Ulloa speaks volumes as any striker worth his salt would fancy his chances being picked ahead of those two. I think Leicester should sell him if we can get close to our money back. I wish him well and it's a shame it never worked out for him here but it would be beneficial to Leicester and Kramaric if we went our separate ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolcol Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 I'd love to see Kram come back and make an impact next season. We'll need squad depth and quality in our backup positions. I'm confident he'll get more games next season. More games may mean more injuries and more of a need to rotate. He's a different kind of player but Son Minheung of Spurs is a good example of having a top quality player champing at the bit waiting for an opportunity, and being given the chance every now and again. He has to offer more than Shinzi has this season. Then again Vardy took 3 seasons to score for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 Top scorer in the Premier League, first place in the Premier League. We did this without Kramaric. The pining for this guy is confusing at best. He's gone. He's not pulling up any trees where he is. He's not coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goober Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 Top scorer in the Premier League, first place in the Premier League. We did this without Kramaric. The pining for this guy is confusing at best. We did it without Messi too. Don't need him either. No one's pining for him, some of us can just see that there may be potential to work with. He's only what, 23? Walsh didn't get the club to blow 7m on this guy for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 We did it without Messi too. Don't need him either. No one's pining for him, some of us can just see that there may be potential to work with. He's only what, 23? Walsh didn't get the club to blow 7m on this guy for no reason Such a ****ing stupid comparison. The footballing equivalent of Godwins law. He's scored 3 goals for us. Not near thirty a season for over a decade. I can only discuss football if you're not going to be ridiculous and use the best player who ever lived as a basis for comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 13 March 2016 Share Posted 13 March 2016 We did it without Messi too. Don't need him either. No one's pining for him, some of us can just see that there may be potential to work with. He's only what, 23? Walsh didn't get the club to blow 7m on this guy for no reason Pearson and now Ranieri haven't fancied him for one reason or another. Absolutely nothing wrong in accepting it hasn't worked out and getting your money back and rolling the dice again. Walsh can't be expected to hit the bullseye every time so if we can get the majority of our money back on "failed" signings like Kramaric, Benalouane & Inler and try again then perhaps there's another Vardy, Mahrez or Kante in the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKante Posted 14 March 2016 Share Posted 14 March 2016 Did anyone see the way he took his goal against Wolfsburg? Absolute class! Great run and great composure to curl it top bag, lets hope this gives him the confidence to prove the naysayers wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-man Posted 14 March 2016 Share Posted 14 March 2016 Top scorer in the Premier League, first place in the Premier League. We did this without Kramaric. The pining for this guy is confusing at best. He's gone. He's not pulling up any trees where he is. He's not coming back. I want him back because it gives us a 4th option. Not necessarily because that option is better than what we have now (it would be tough to get much better, if we're honest), but because next season we will be playing in four competitions and will need to rotate. This guy is a pure finisher. Look at his contribution versus Wolfsburg - a team in the last 8 of the Champions League. The talent is there if we (as fans) are willing to give him a chance, because I am sure Ranieri will use him a lot more next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 14 March 2016 Share Posted 14 March 2016 It baffles me that people are always so black and white on here. Literally every topic is a polarising one on foxestalk. Why can't he just be a good young player with a fair bit of potential who just doesn't quite fit in with the way we want to play? Who just couldn't quite break in to our starting eleven so wanted a move for the Euros? There's no reason to think he has a terrible attitude or he's going to flop. Equally there's no reason to think our club are useless if he does well elsewhere. There are lots of good players that just wouldn't be any good in our team. I mean, I love him but can you imagine Zlatan doing the work Vardy does or Totti chasing everything down behind him like Shinji? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 Starting for TSG again today. Kick-off in about fifteen minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 Already with a great chance of making it 1-0 to Hoffenheim, his lob hit the crossbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonesLCFC Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 He's nearly scored an absolute worldy, fantastic save from Adler to deny him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry96 Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 He's nearly scored an absolute worldy, fantastic save from Adler to deny him! is the game on TV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 Already with a great chance of making it 1-0 to Hoffenheim, his lob hit the crossbar. How long before someone says he'd have scored if he'd shot properly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireFox Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 Had a great chance. If he shot properly instead of going for a lob, he'd have for sure scored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melrose Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 He'd of scored if he shot properly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertstreet Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 should have chipped it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clever Fox Posted 19 March 2016 Share Posted 19 March 2016 should have chipped it No He's no good at Chipping as we know well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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