st albans fox Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 We'll have to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised to see him receive an extra 2 game ban. I'm sure they would consider retrospectively (can they do this?) applying a straight red card for foul and abusive language which I believe carries an automatic two match ban? They can and I believe they will do exactly this - putting one of the two games on suspended due to his request for a personal hearing and apology to them. (Plus his decent disciplinary record in not having been sent off before). if he doesn't turn up then they just issue the two match addition to his one match ban for the two yellows.
weller54 Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 No! You might confuse your negativity as realism but there's a reason why the two words exist - they mean different things. A pessimist expects the worst - a realist judges the likelihood of an event happening. An optimist is a different kettle-of-fish - deciding not to allow the possibility of adverse events to affect him/her adversely. Optimism and pessimism are states of mind - realism is an attempt to view the world objectively. OK, here we go. Optimistic hat is on. Ulloa comes in for vardy, scores a hattrick against Swansea and a double against United. Vardy is on the bench when he's available again for the Everton game...replaces Ulloa in the 85th minute and scores the winner.. 1-0 to win us the title! The Fairytale is complete.
Reg Vardy Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Whether the official was brilliant or appalling, the onus is on players to play to the rules of the game. Yes the booking was wrong, yes sending off was flawed, but no Vardy broke the rules and will be punished....fairly clear to me, let us hope for one extra match, not two......
gdl9050 Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 OK, here we go. Optimistic hat is on. Ulloa comes in for vardy, scores a hattrick against Swansea and a double against United. Vardy is on the bench when he's available again for the Everton game...replaces Ulloa in the 85th minute and scores the winner.. 1-0 to win us the title! The Fairytale is complete. If ulloa scores 2 goals in the next 2 games let alone 5 I would be truly amazed.
DEMANN Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 He has the ban for the red card and the ban for the reaction. The hearing is to decide whether he gets any additional ban. The precedent is set with Diego Costa from earlier in the season, he misses Swansea and United. Wrong. He hasn't been given any additional ban to the one for the sending off.
los dedos Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Whether the official was brilliant or appalling, the onus is on players to play to the rules of the game. Yes the booking was wrong, yes sending off was flawed, but no Vardy broke the rules and will be punished....fairly clear to me, let us hope for one extra match, not two...... That's the point though is it fair when Rooney and many others have been telling the ref to f*** off for years with no action taken.If there going to crack down fair enough but they can't just pick on a random incident this needs to start at the begining of the season.
Fox Ulike Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Whether the official was brilliant or appalling, the onus is on players to play to the rules of the game. Yes the booking was wrong, yes sending off was flawed, but no Vardy broke the rules and will be punished....fairly clear to me, let us hope for one extra match, not two...... I'm not sure he has broken any rules. The finger-jabbing picture certainly does him no favours, but he did leave the pitch straight away. I think the FA judge each case on it's own merits. This is his first sending off... I think he might get away with a fine and a warning to his future conduct.
Thracian Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 What the FA should really do is apologise to Vardy wholeheartedly. a) For the shameful way he was provoked. b) for not awarding the penalty to which he was clearly entitled (unless the rule concerning using a hand on the shoulder to constrain the movement of a player has somehow been changed), c) for the referee effectively and erroneously labelling Vardy a cheat in front of everyone watching, d) for using Vardy's reaction as an excuse to send him off for his (the referee's own) at incompetence, selective interpretation and reducing of Leicester's effectiveness with no justification e) for the referee so unbalancing/ruining a game which was of massive importance to both teams and f) for the countless refereeing inconsistencies which collectively made a mockery of the rules. Vardy was mistreated and provoked beyond fairness and should entirely escape punishment, should be free to play against Swansea and wished well by the authorities who should then settle down and determine to educate their officials properly. Moss should be demoted, sent of a referees' refresher course and only invited to referee senior matches in future when they feel he understands the importance of consistency and shows himself prepared to make decisions according to the first offence rather than the consequences of that offence.
stripeyfox Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 I'm not sure he has broken any rules. The finger-jabbing picture certainly does him no favours, but he did leave the pitch straight away. I think the FA judge each case on it's own merits. This is his first sending off... I think he might get away with a fine and a warning to his future conduct. He has clearly broken the rules regarding conduct. Pointing a finger whilst shouting what he did directly at the ref is very definitely a breach of the rules
Fox Ulike Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 He has clearly broken the rules regarding conduct. Pointing a finger whilst shouting what he did directly at the ref is very definitely a breach of the rules Which rule says you can't point at the ref? But OK, yeah he's guilty of misconduct if he's called the ref a ****. I don't think though that misconduct is automatically a one-game ban is it? Since he's never been sent off before and is rarely booked, I'm hoping the FA will display some leniency towards him. I'm also hoping the FA will take into consideration as evidence the fact that Moss is clearly a ****.
Babylon Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 I'm also hoping the FA will take into consideration as evidence the fact that Moss is clearly a ****. The FA think he had a great game, if they didn't he wouldn't have been on the pitch last night.
stripeyfox Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Which rule says you can't point at the ref? But OK, yeah he's guilty of misconduct if he's called the ref a ****. I don't think though that misconduct is automatically a one-game ban is it? Since he's never been sent off before and is rarely booked, I'm hoping the FA will display some leniency towards him. I'm also hoping the FA will take into consideration as evidence the fact that Moss is clearly a ****. It is covered under Rule E3. The standard penalty for "Abusive/Insulting Language" is a one match suspension and an £8000 fine (for a PL player), where the player admits the charge. If the player denies the charge and is found guilty then the recommended sanction is a two match suspension and £ 12000 fine. Of course, these are guidelines and the FA could apply leniency or impose a stiffer penalty.
filbertway Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 It is covered under Rule E3. The standard penalty for "Abusive/Insulting Language" is a one match suspension and an £8000 fine (for a PL player), where the player admits the charge. If the player denies the charge and is found guilty then the recommended sanction is a two match suspension and £ 12000 fine. Of course, these are guidelines and the FA could apply leniency or impose a stiffer penalty. Haha imagine if that was applied for all premier league games based on video evidence. It'd probably eradicate it after half a season but it'd be interesting seeing teams missing 3 or 4 players every other week haha. Rooney would never manage more than 19 games a season.
SpinneyHillRanger Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 reading the FA report from costa FA personal hearing... based on that, would say vardy will in all likelyhood get an extra game.... Costa and his representation tried to show evidence which included clips from the game before the incident.... he also said as part of his mitigating evidence that he didn't swear. Vardy best hope is Woy Hodgson has had a word.... and he gets off with just a hefty fine. http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/mar/fa-disciplinary-charges-decisions-march-2016 http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/the%20fa%202015-16/fa-v-diego-costa-2016-written-reasons.ashx?la=en
yorkie1999 Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Whether the official was brilliant or appalling, the onus is on players to play to the rules of the game. Yes the booking was wrong, yes sending off was flawed, but no Vardy broke the rules and will be punished....fairly clear to me, let us hope for one extra match, not two......Swearing at the ref after being sent off is not really in the rules of the game though is it.how would you punish a foreign player who swore in their own language?
WigstonWanderer Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 He should offer to go for anger management. They love that sort of mumbo jumbo.
Fox Ulike Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 reading the FA report from costa FA personal hearing... based on that, would say vardy will in all likelyhood get an extra game.... Costa and his representation tried to show evidence which included clips from the game before the incident.... he also said as part of his mitigating evidence that he didn't swear. Vardy best hope is Woy Hodgson has had a word.... and he gets off with just a hefty fine. http://www.thefa.com/news/governance/2016/mar/fa-disciplinary-charges-decisions-march-2016 http://www.thefa.com/~/media/files/pdf/the%20fa%202015-16/fa-v-diego-costa-2016-written-reasons.ashx?la=en Yeah but that's the game when Costa bit Gareth Barry and spat at the ref's boots. He'd also had two 3 match bans previous to that. Obviously i'm not neutral, but even if I was I think Vardy deserves a fine and a warning as to future behavouir. It would hardly seem fair if he got the same punishment as a player who bit an opponent and spat at the referee!!
chapero82 Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 If you read the one on Costa extra gave the FA say it's not the first time he has done anything, maybe because it's Vardy's first offence they may give him a fine unless they use the Jap case
mick47 Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 What the FA should really do is apologise to Vardy wholeheartedly. a) For the shameful way he was provoked. b) for not awarding the penalty to which he was clearly entitled (unless the rule concerning using a hand on the shoulder to constrain the movement of a player has somehow been changed), c) for the referee effectively and erroneously labelling Vardy a cheat in front of everyone watching, d) for using Vardy's reaction as an excuse to send him off for his (the referee's own) at incompetence, selective interpretation and reducing of Leicester's effectiveness with no justification e) for the referee so unbalancing/ruining a game which was of massive importance to both teams and f) for the countless refereeing inconsistencies which collectively made a mockery of the rules. Vardy was mistreated and provoked beyond fairness and should entirely escape punishment, should be free to play against Swansea and wished well by the authorities who should then settle down and determine to educate their officials properly. Moss should be demoted, sent of a referees' refresher course and only invited to referee senior matches in future when they feel he understands the importance of consistency and shows himself prepared to make decisions according to the first offence rather than the consequences of that offence. I had a dream like that once :-)
Gerard Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Part of me wants him to be banned for an extra game and take points off Utd anyway rather than hear the media and Spurs fans moan about how we only won the league because Vardy wasn't punished. I couldn't care less what anyone thinks, I just want us to get over the line in any way possible. In fact their bleating would make it all the more enjoyable.
MonmoreStef Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 I hope our back room staff have got footage of the last 100 players being sent off in the Prem. I'm convinced at least a quarter of them will have shouted words similar to what Vardy has done towards the ref. The difference being the media didn't have a frenzy about it at the time.
Renart Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 This seems reasonable (am I actually saying that about the Mail?): http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3552518/Jamie-Vardy-earning-extra-one-game-ban-mightily-excessive-dismissal-against-West-Ham-harsh-Leicester-suffer-magical-season.html
FantasticMrFox&Son Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Blimey, not a bad summary. The comments make interesting reading, a couple seem clued up on what seemed to have happened for the 1st yellow issued.
AyewJoking Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 Starting to get my hopes up he will only miss swansea. Never a good thing.
LanguedocFox Posted 22 April 2016 Posted 22 April 2016 I don't know whether this has been asked, but is there any facility for imposing a ban but having it suspended for, say, six months?
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