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LCFC U21 / Development Squad 2016/17

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30 minutes ago, davieG said:

Does this mean they're relegated?

Depressing if so considering 2 seasons ago they were in the top half of the table and in the semi fianl of the fa youth cup. I wouldn't mind the results if we still brought players through like Southampton but we don't seem to give them a chance. As soon as we are safe give some players like Gordon, Ndukwu, Johnson ect some game time off the bench. Would like to see Johnson especially as he plays rb and we do need some cover there. I know some people would prioritise league position over youth due to money, but surely if we can bring through one or two youth players then we could save money in the transfer market?

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2 hours ago, TheMightySystem said:

Depressing if so considering 2 seasons ago they were in the top half of the table and in the semi fianl of the fa youth cup. I wouldn't mind the results if we still brought players through like Southampton but we don't seem to give them a chance. As soon as we are safe give some players like Gordon, Ndukwu, Johnson ect some game time off the bench. Would like to see Johnson especially as he plays rb and we do need some cover there. I know some people would prioritise league position over youth due to money, but surely if we can bring through one or two youth players then we could save money in the transfer market?

Johnson and Ndukwu injured along with a few more

 

we are third from bottom and two go down but only a couple of points between a fair few teams I think

Reading are bottom and we play them next 

 

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21 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

Johnson and Ndukwu injured along with a few more

 

we are third from bottom and two go down but only a couple of points between a fair few teams I think

Reading are bottom and we play them next 

 

Do you think Dean Hammond will go into a coaching role at the academy? Or is he already?

 

Would be a shame if they were relegated. 

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10 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Do you think Dean Hammond will go into a coaching role at the academy? Or is he already?

 

Would be a shame if they were relegated. 

He does a bit of coaching now. Just plays as an old head to try to gel the side.

 

Whilst a great player doesn't always make a great manager/ coach my gut reaction is that this is jobs for the boys and we could do better.

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13 hours ago, TheMightySystem said:

Depressing if so considering 2 seasons ago they were in the top half of the table and in the semi fianl of the fa youth cup. I wouldn't mind the results if we still brought players through like Southampton but we don't seem to give them a chance. As soon as we are safe give some players like Gordon, Ndukwu, Johnson ect some game time off the bench. Would like to see Johnson especially as he plays rb and we do need some cover there. I know some people would prioritise league position over youth due to money, but surely if we can bring through one or two youth players then we could save money in the transfer market?

 

Playing youth players in games that don't matter much isn't the way to bring them through. You have to make a commitment to involving them for a period of time and in whatever situation arises. Part of the learning curve is to play under the pressure of a vital game at Tottenham or coping with having 10-men at Liverpool. All the basics should have been learned before then and the staff should be entirely sure they're good enough as footballers way before they're considered for the first team.

 

One or two 20-minute appearances offers nothing of value. Prospective young first teamers will have been long used to playing games as part of a first team training group. What they need from their breakthrough is the time and confidence to settle and blend-in despite the pressure of a baying crowd and the making of mistakes which are part of every player's experience in every game but usually tolerated when the stars are at fault but not so easily accepted for the newcomers - either by the crowd or by management.

 

Chilwell's a good example at Leicester. Does anyone yet know if he's good enough to replace Fuchs? No. Why? Because he's never had a sustained run in the team - and that's partly because Fuchs is still doing his job, because Fuchs is more expensive to leave out, because Fuchs likely has more knowledge of and experience against his likely opponent and because Chilwell has not quite convinced anyone that he can consistently perform well without making costly mistakes.

 

And yet othes make costly mistakes too - Benalouane and Ndidi lately, for instance. Mahrez too in a different way. Indeed, if Chilwell played like Mahrez has done for considerable spells, he'd have been  dropped but Mahrez's record gives him insurance - including his unquestioned impact recently even when he's not played well overall.

 

So would i pay Chilwell ahead of Fuchs, for example? I honestly don't know from watching as a fan. But I would know from watching day-in, day-out in training and can only assume that Shaky has entirely justifiable reasons for making the decisions he does. And that if and when Chilwell properly breaks through he would do so with the belief of his manager that he's ready to cope and ready to remain in the team. But, clearly, he needs to improve some more yet and, I'd suspect, that's all about learning about opponents and achieving greater consistency and awareness.

 

For Gray there's a similar need to improve. No-one doubts his abilities. It's his weaknesses that need to be ironed out. Better decision making and shooting/passing accuracy to ensure greater effect. Improved stamina so he can sustain his threat for longer. And better defensive awareness.

 

Both Gray and Chilwell clearly have the ability to succeed. Their challenge now is to show the will and humility needed to recognise and work determinedly on their shortcomings.                 

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Leicester City fielded a young Kidderminster striker on trial as their Development Squad picked up vital point in a 2-2 draw against Reading.

 

Twenty-year-old Andre Brown was named in the starting XI at the Madejski Stadium as City's under-23s battled to keep their place in Premier League 2.

Brown was given permission to play the game for Leicester before returning to Kidderminster for their final home game of the season against Bradford Park Avenue.

City are stuck in the bottom two, one place above Reading and a point off safety, and last night's draw proved a valuable point with one game remaining, at Tottenham a week on Thursday.

Brown has netted 14 goals for Kidderminster this season and scored in the Harriers' 1-1 draw with Gainsborough in Saturday's Conference North clash.

Read more: City will not sell their best players, insists Shakespeare

He penned a one-year deal with the club after his release from Crewe.

The powerful hit-man was a graduate of the prestigious youth set-up at Crewe and spent much of last season cutting his teeth at non-league level with a spell at Worcester in National League North.

He also spent time with Rushall Olympic, netting five goals on his debut.

 

Craig Shakespeare

'Still an opportunity for lower-league players'

City manager Craig Shakespeare has spoken about giving opportunities to lower-league players.

At yesterday's press conference ahead of Wednesday night's Premier League clash at Arsenal, Shakespeare said: "The proof is there (that gems can be unearthed).

"It's harder now than it ever was because of the amount of scouts out there. There's still an opportunity for lads in the lower leagues.

"They should never think it's not for them, because then it won't be. They have to keep believing."

Read more: City scouts deserve pat on back for double PFA success

At the Madejski, City fell 2-0 behind to goals from Deniss Rakels and Yakou Miete inside the first 15 minutes.

But City captain Elliott Moore pulled one back with a bullet header on 31 minutes, before Hamza Choudhury struck from the penalty spot five minutes later to salvage a point.

City have a track record of plucking players from the lower leagues and turning them into stars, most notable Jamie Vardy, who they signed from Fleetwood five years ago.

Earlier this month, City snapped up striker Josh Gordon from non-league Stafford Rangers.

The 22-year-old scored 11 goals in 18 games for the Northern Premier League Premier Division side this season before going on trial with the Premier League champions.


Read more at http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/8203-leicester-city-field-young-kiddeminster-hot-shot-in-development-squad-s-vital-draw-against-reading/story-30292161-detail/story.html#IRb61vPPCu3vySPO.99

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3 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

Is Hamza fit again? If we're relegated are we sending all our promising players out on loan?

MATCH ROUND-UP: Elliott Moore and Hamza Choudhury efforts rescue a 2-2 draw for the#lcfcu23s at Reading in #PL2 27a1.png➡️http://leic.it/2oEURO3

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7 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

Haven't we already got loads of pretty promising strikers?

 

Muskwe, this Andre Brown guy, Josh Gordon, Uche, Mitchell and probably more? We're taking my fifa youth academy approach. 

Depends on what your definition of promising is

 

Championship or lower then maybe

 

Premiership no chance

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On 17/04/2017 at 19:36, TheMightySystem said:

Depressing if so considering 2 seasons ago they were in the top half of the table and in the semi fianl of the fa youth cup. I wouldn't mind the results if we still brought players through like Southampton but we don't seem to give them a chance. As soon as we are safe give some players like Gordon, Ndukwu, Johnson ect some game time off the bench. Would like to see Johnson especially as he plays rb and we do need some cover there. I know some people would prioritise league position over youth due to money, but surely if we can bring through one or two youth players then we could save money in the transfer market?

 

 

My guess is we need more specific coaches and, in particular, imaginative, inventive coaches with the skills, energy and outlook to make demands and to inspire sustained improvement.   

 

Bottom two is a bad advert for all that the competition involves some long established big clubs and is better established.

 

Winning is a philosophy that needs to extend throughout the club and the whole set-up needs to compliment the approach of the first team with a basic philosophy and further time spent on planned variations.

 

 

               

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27 minutes ago, ramadaone said:

Depends on what your definition of promising is

 

Championship or lower then maybe

 

Premiership no chance

What have the club made of Uche this year? Didn't we pay a few million for him?

 

Next year is all about Harvey Barnes, I really hope we don't waste his potential.

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Why are people bothered if the 23's get relegated? It's about development not results at this level. 

 

Spurs went a whole season without a win a few years back with the likes of Kane, Carroll and Rose in their squad. 

 

Went to watch the Liverpool game last week and tbh was pretty flat with little encouragement anyone was close to breaking into the first team squad. Interesting watching Kupustka, you can tell he has no confidence! Played him as a holding midfielder second half and was missing. 

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1 hour ago, brucey said:

what are the consequences of being relegated in the u23s? just playing against crappier u23 teams next season?

The consequence of being relegated is that the players will all get blamed for "not being good enough" while the coaches responsible for their development from U14-U23 will probably keep their jobs and carry on failing to develope the next generation of young players properly

Talented kids being led by Talent-less coaches......simply wouldnt be tolerated in an academic or forward thinking business environment so why is it tolerated in a multi-million pound business where talent should be treated as an assett as opposed to a commodity...?!?

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6 hours ago, Foxy-Lady said:

The consequence of being relegated is that the players will all get blamed for "not being good enough" while the coaches responsible for their development from U14-U23 will probably keep their jobs and carry on failing to develope the next generation of young players properly

Talented kids being led by Talent-less coaches......simply wouldnt be tolerated in an academic or forward thinking business environment so why is it tolerated in a multi-million pound business where talent should be treated as an assett as opposed to a commodity...?!?

Do you know they're talentless? And as you mention it, lots of poor teachers and business staff are tolerated and for all sorts of reasons.

 

We've not done so badly as an Academy and have not had much time yet to adapt to the newly elevated status of our club. Hence my call for more coaches - including specialists - rather than the need for decent servants to be sacked.

 

Up-dated training might be in order but I presume that's already undertaken.    

  

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