A penny for Vardy's thoughts

[shade]

1 minute ago, ozvaldo said:

It definitely is - and we're trying to evolve, which is taking time to get right.  Kante's ability to win and recycle the ball and counter at speed definitely helped us last season.  It wasn't all down to him, granted.  But he played a massive part in doing that role, which, in turn, enabled our 'star players' to shine.  

granted, but his loss doesn't completely explain why all four defenders, albrighton, mahrez and drinkwater can suddenly only panic and hoof balls straight to the opposition.

[the fox]

2 hours ago, Captain... said:

Slimani a few times now has given someone a bollocking on the pitch, Albrighton got an earful against Porto, King got one last night as well as Vardy. It's not a bad trait to have a vocal footballer not afraid to shout at his team mates, but he is new to the club and it wasn't how we played last season if anyone made a mistake we worked hard as a team to rectify it.

 

Vardy was complaining against Chelsea on the pitch that he was getting no support from the midfield and it was evident again last night. If he chases down a ball and wins it high up the pitch he has no support, Slimani isn't as fast and the midfield aren't bursting forwards. Vardy is just going to run himself into the ground chasing lost causes if he gets no support.

Not chasing down players is not a mistake. It just not putting the shift needed. New or not. If I am a striker and I am running my legs to the ground while chasing down players and an other player is able to run or in marks case "his only reason that he is starting" but refuses to .you better expect slim to shout at him. Do your shift or stay home

[An Away Move]

1 hour ago, dbtcity said:

At that point I genuinely thought it looked like vardy didn't want this partnership to take off... slimani kept holding onto the ball waiting for vardy to make even half an attempt of a run but it never came, slimani had every right to give him a bollocking... it's a dangerous game from vardy though as I feel if 1 of the 2 was to get dropped it would probably be vardy on current form

Glad I'm not the only one who saw it and feels this way. I love Vardy, but at the moment he looks like he has a touch of Rooneyitus/Englanditus. On one occasion when Slimani was holding the ball up there was loads of space for Vardy to run into for a very simple but incisive/angled pass. Vardy ran in a straight line towards the defenders (and not into the space) and slowed down. It was a real WTF moment for me. And Slimani was bang within his rights to have a go about it.

[justfoxes]

Whether it's the book that's got his mind elsewhere or the fact that his goal drought is draining his confidence who know buy Vardy himself ?

So here's hoping he forgets about his book for now and do what he did best last season and if he has thrown his rattle out the pram because Slimshady is taking his plaudits then Jamie man up and score those bloody goals get your confidence back score more than anyone whatever you do start banging those goals in again lad !!

[ozvaldo]

1 hour ago, shade said:

granted, but his loss doesn't completely explain why all four defenders, albrighton, mahrez and drinkwater can suddenly only panic and hoof balls straight to the opposition.

It's really frustrating watching players like Albrighton just cross it from literally anywhere - and most often without looking up.  It all feels very frantic.  It's such a basic style of play.
I don't understand why we've started to play this way.  Ranieri was on the radio saying that he didn't want us to have possession, but instead he wanted us to play loads of high balls to worry their defence and then to allow us to press them when they countered.  It worked, but it was a struggle to watch it for 90 mins.  

[Domsdad]

They are discussing Vardey on Talksport this morning. One of the things that occurred to me was the loss of Kevin Phillips- was he helping Jamie and he hasn't been replaced. Listening to Dean Saunders, I agree with him that Jamie still has pace, speed of thought etc but is just going through a bit of a slump. Maybe someone like Saunders could be brought in?

[Sol thewall Bamba]

3 hours ago, jazz said:

Vardy needs Shinsy to partner him. Slimani isn't all that either.... we've turned into a long ball team it's minging to watch nowhere near the team spirit or ethic of last season.

We were a long ball team last season, difference was that Vards chased the balls into the channels, this season he hasn't been bothering. 

[maf13r]

For me we have changed the way we move the ball forward to compliment Slimani and this is affecting Vardys game, as we seem to pump the ball high towards Slimani instead of looking into the channels for Vardy like last season. He is making the runs but the service isnt coming to him. IMO I think Okazaki should be partnering Vardy as they work better together as Okazaki will drop alittle and works his nuts off. Not saying Slimani isnt a good player because he is, the biggest problem is in the middle Kante & Drinkwater last season was like playing with 3 in the middle this Season its only Drinkwater that really offers anything in the middle.

[lcfcdamo]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Slimani and Vardy both play off the last defender and right now they aren't clicking that well. Last season Okazaki dropped deep bringing space in the channels for Vardy to basically run the forward line himself. Funny thing is last season we were crying for more firepower so let's give it some time ay?

I dont think we was lacking anything last season okazki has 2 play for me

[Soar Fox]

To me it looks like his pace is going. 

 

There was a moment last night in front of the east stand where he had the ball on the wing with a defender in front of him. Last season he would have knocked it past and sprinted past him, last night he ran with the ball and ran it straight out of play.

[Gerard]

Vardy and Slimani doesn't work as they both play the same position and we don't have enough possession to justify two No 9's.

No Okazaki to link Vardy and the midfield.

No Kante overturning the ball and running with it creating spaces for Vardy.

Our full backs are traditional defenders and don't support our already outnumbered midfield.

 

There isn't a cat in hell's chance that Vardy has a similar season to last season because of the above.

 

I believe we have a lot of fundamental problems in our team and the Slimani/Vardy partnership will never work and something will have to give because we aren't going to improve playing two No 9's and two defensive full backs.

 

[Fox 4 Life]

4 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

He's not had the service yet this season and been marked out of games - he's getting a taste of what Mahrez was getting toward the end of last season.

 

I think he's doing lots of running but is getting frustrated at the quality of what comes through to him and he's been in all fairness screwing up the few opportunities he's had.

 

Im struggling to put my finger on the issues in the side at the moment. Yeah I think there's a hangover from last season, yeah I think it's new players coming in, yeah I think there has been some tough games and an element of fatigue and yes we miss a certain player......

 

But

 

There have been lapses in concentration and a visable void in the centre of the park that links defence to attack. We seem to have only three variations of methods of attack. The set piece/cross from the left usually from Albrighton, The ball over the top from Drinks to Vardy and lastly Mahrez cutting in from the right. We don't look like we can pass the ball well in the final third, Vardy is not a winger and loses the ball when pacing up the left touch line, and if Drinks and Albrighton are not on form in the ball delivery department the side looks rubbish like a Championship hit and hoof mid table, tactically inept side. 

 

Is Adrien Silva the answer? We need some more midfield quality that's for sure and Albrighton needs to regain his crossing form or be replaced.

Great post, there are a few issues going on that are all contributing. As much as I never thought I would say it, we miss Okazaki and his running/link up play. I fully believe Slimani is a better player but for Vardy, Shinji is a better fit. It will take time for Slimani and Vards to click but it will happen eventually I am sure of it, they both just need to work hard at it and try not to get frustrated with each other.

 

Claudio's comments about working on the front 3 of Slim, Vards and Mahrez were interesting and I hope he genuinely does spend time on their chemistry, they could be ****ing lethal together. I think we are in dire need of a Silva type player, not every team has a Kante and they seem to do fine, as long as there is some creativity. The question is would Silva still join if we are 15th in Jan?!

[Fox92]

Best game he's played for a while. At least he was pressing which is pleasing. 

[foxes21]

If Slimani and Vardy isn't working, how about Slimani/Musa & Okazaki/Vardy, rotate the partnerships depending on opposition.

[Wymsey]

Set pieces were improved yesterday, Vardy seemed to been sent out wide quite a bit.

His performance should give him a boost of confidence.

[Captain...]

2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

We were a long ball team last season, difference was that Vards chased the balls into the channels, this season he hasn't been bothering. 

 

We weren't a long ball team, we used it as a tactic far less last season than this season. The difference is when that long pass came in we charged forwards as a team so if Vardy did win the ball he had support.

 

If we keep pumping the ball forwards Vardy ends up knackered, even if he wins the ball he is isolated. It is getting predictable and easy to defend. Last season we hit that ball forwards quickly before the defence was set and charged forwards in numbers. Now we seem to take too many touches and then hit a long pass when the defence is set. If the quick break isn't on we need to move the defenders about, work the space with clever movement and passing and slip Vardy in with a short pass and not just go long or out wide all the time.

 

We did it a couple of times last night, produced some good passing moves and got forwards on numbers creating chances. We need to do that more often.

[m4DD0gg]

6 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

To me it looks like his pace is going. 

 

There was a moment last night in front of the east stand where he had the ball on the wing with a defender in front of him. Last season he would have knocked it past and sprinted past him, last night he ran with the ball and ran it straight out of play.

Agree, if its the bit i am thinking of he is in a very similar position to where he was for the Arsenal and West Ham goals he scored last season.

[Blue ROI]

6 hours ago, Steve_Walsh5 said:

To me it looks like his pace is going. 

 

There was a moment last night in front of the east stand where he had the ball on the wing with a defender in front of him. Last season he would have knocked it past and sprinted past him, last night he ran with the ball and ran it straight out of play.

Yeah the zippyness of last season looks to have gone slightly.

 

I don't reckon he was that bad last night. Certainly not his finest hour but a little bit better than his recent form. Put in a reasonable shift. He did setup the first goal in fairness to him. Should he get a goal soon he could not only boost his own game but put that bit of doubt into defenders heads.

[twister]

I am very surprised lads at this

 

he is very close to drink water Morgan and king etc in the squad, why would he not work his bollocks of for his teammates he likes, he may not get on with the new lads, but considering they speak very little english then its going to take time for any rapport to develop anyway.

 

I suggest its more to do with having played without a proper break this summer and feeling the pressure more of the wages , limelight.Remember a year ago he was still a  unknown now the whole of the football world knows who he is.

 

Bellamy has always reminded me of him and bellamy went through spells looking top draw aka in his days at d city, and then he would look moody and go through lean spells. Vardy needs a arm round him and made to feel like he is still  ok, as stupid as that sounds.

[AyewJoking]

we've been largely clueless in our "direct" attack aproach this season so why are people blaming vardy for losing his pace or having a goal drought or looking like he cant be ársed?

 

if our hoofs were getting vardy in with actual goal scoring chances and he still wasnt scoring or not even beating the defender for pace then people would be right to question him.

 

we have been off our game and that game is all about vardy so its no surprise he is stuggling to impress.

[Foxxed]

I thought he looked like he has his head elsewhere at the start of the season. It's been a massive life change for him. From non league, too little known striker in a supposedly relegation bound team, to England's number nine and one of the best known strikers in the world. He went from nothing, to pretty much the top of the Premier League, to ...? All in a very, very short amount of time. I get the feeling a couple of goals behind him and he'll be back to his old ways. Until then, I wouldn't mind benching him in favour of another, if only to put some more desire back in his game, ideally outside the CL games too.

[lgfualol]

Maybe we should try him in CM with Drinkwater?

[Foxxed]

Has anyone suggested we play Filbert alongside Drinky yet? Surely you've got to give him a chance?

[Wymsey]

Might get shot down for this but could Vardy come on as a sub after half-time, especially if the opposition are attacking-minded and create holes at the back/defence starting to get worn out?

[TheLittleBigMan]

I think he looked a lot better last night. I think most strikers would have struggled with that service. I never thought he'd be pushing for top scorer this season but i'm certainly not worried at all about what just a mini goal drought. The boy will come good.