Grewks Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 5 minutes ago, AKCJ said: It is surprising in some ways but it's not on the whole. Millennials are Clinton's biggest supporters. What's America's average wage for those ages ~30 and below? It must be pretty tough for those who vote with who they can most relate to when one candidate is a billionaire who literally has a whacking great tower in the middle of New York with his name on it. As oppose to Clinton whose family has been surrounded with controversy since Bill's reign? Trump basically ran with a 'I'm fed up with the establishment' attitude, that's what won him the election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Becoming very clear now that Hillary didn't draft a concession speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr The Singh Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 18 minutes ago, Koke said: Singhy lad, Chris Rock wants his joke back. Chris Rock can suck my cock!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 6 minutes ago, Grewks said: As oppose to Clinton whose family has been surrounded with controversy since Bill's reign? Trump basically ran with a 'I'm fed up with the establishment' attitude, that's what won him the election. Is the establishment really that bad. Quite like my life really, I realise that is selfish, perhaps someone can enlighten me as to what exactly Brexit or Donald Trump are going to do that is such a vast improvement on the establishment, genuine question like. I could do with trains turning up on time a bit more and I could do with someone buying my house? Perhaps so more funding for the NHS too so I can get more work, didn't someone say something about that actually? If you ask me he's won because Hilary is even more unelectable than him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Just now, MattP said: Becoming very clear now that Hillary didn't draft a concession speech. Just embarrassing. Even if she didn't her team has had more than 8 hours now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 they're getting the stunt double out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koke Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Trump claims to be an outsider but he's made ludicrous promises that he can't and won't fulfil like most politicians . That Mexican wall won't be built. His threats to NATO won't materialise etc. Politicians as per normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Finnegan Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 5 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Just embarrassing. Even if she didn't her team has had more than 8 hours now. She just needs to go on stage like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 3 minutes ago, Koke said: Trump claims to be an outsider but he's made ludicrous promises that he can't and won't fulfil like most politicians . That Mexican wall won't be built. His threats to NATO won't materialise etc. Politicians as per normal. Given people have said "he won't win the nomination" to then follow that with "he won't win the Presidency" it may be sensible to reign back on claims of what won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 3 minutes ago, Finnegan said: She just needs to go on stage like: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 20 minutes ago, Koke said: That just means Trump > Romney from the perspective of Black Americans. Which is odd because other than being out of touch with the working class, Romney isn't an inherently bad person. Hillary is a disgrace anyway. If I was African American I'd vote Trump too. The Clinton pair have sponsored and passed some disgraceful bills that has hurt African Americans tremendously I think your first sentience is a little bit at odds with your 2nd sentence... and its really the 2nd part i was meaning as to why i think he has more of the African American vote this time round.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzinderFox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 16 minutes ago, Manwell Pablo said: ...you can mean what you want many has a dictionary definition which means majority, so at best you've miss used the word. ...It is funny because you claim to be light hearted ...and have even gone as far as throwing insults at @Voll Blau on a couple of occasions. If I go back and change my original comment from 'many' to 'some' would it bring an end to this banal conversation? @Voll Blau I apologize for any insults I may have thrown at you. I wasn't joking about the assassination comment, it was mentioned on here, as has been on Twitter, as it has been on my FB feed, as I'm sure it has been by people across the world today. If you didn't spot it that's your problem not mine. The other post was clearly tongue in cheek and I'm still amazed you thought that was serious. Does that answer you question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Seen a tweet that suggests in terms of overall votes received Trump didn't beat Romney's 2012 figure - however Clinton lost over 6 million votes to what Obama picked up. What that tells me is that the votes might have been there for Hillary to win... she just didn't inspire those people enough to go out and vote for her (and a problem I felt with the 2 week perlonged Trump attack and not much else in the lead up). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 3 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said: If I go back and change my original comment from 'many' to 'some' would it bring an end to this banal conversation? @Voll Blau I apologize for any insults I may have thrown at you. I wasn't joking about the assassination comment, it was mentioned on here, as has been on Twitter, as it has been on my FB feed, as I'm sure it has been by people across the world today. If you didn't spot it that's your problem not mine. The other post was clearly tongue in cheek and I'm still amazed you thought that was serious. Does that answer you question? Christ is this still going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 1 minute ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Seen a tweet that suggests in terms of overall votes received Trump didn't beat Romney's 2012 figure - however Clinton lost over 6 million votes to what Obama picked up. What that tells me is that the votes might have been there for Hillary to win... she just didn't inspire those people enough to go out and vote for her (and a problem I felt with the 2 week perlonged Trump attack and not much else in the lead up). I posted it earlier, Hillary lost because natural Democrat voters wouldn't come out and vote for her in the same way they did for Obama. Mitt Romney got 60.9 million votes in 2012 and lost, Donald Trump has got 58.1million in 2016 and is winning a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Guiza Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 5 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said: Given people have said "he won't win the nomination" to then follow that with "he won't win the Presidency" it may be sensible to reign back on claims of what won't happen. There are a lot of hurdles that he needs to cross in order to get anything done anyway, particularly any of the extreme promises/throwaway comments he's made. Much the same problem as May has had with triggering Article 50. The difference is that when he was just Donald Trump the crazy billionaire candidate he could get away with saying certain things without too much ramification; whereas now that he's President anything he says could have a huge affect on foreign policy, the economy etc. I believe/hope that many of his radical comments were much the same as Boris' in terms of gaining support from the afraid, ignorant, nationalists or whatever you wish to call them and much of what he does will be run of the mill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ousefox Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 55 minutes ago, Fox92 said: I thought he'd resigned ? Only from the labour party I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Any Corbynistas getting excited it could be up for grabs? Anti-establishment voting at an all time here, pollsters possibly manipulating public opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 59,215,097 people just voted for a man: Who has zero political experience Who hasn't paid a cent in taxes for 20 years Who has been made bankrupt four times Who is a proven failure in business Who is a racist Is a misogynist Advocates sexual assault and will be on trial for alleged such crimes before his inauguration Who thinks banning all Muslims from entering America is an adequate response to a minority of lunatics Who is hated by half of his own party Who thinks that climate change is a HOAX Whose Vice President doesn't believe in evolution and wants to force schools to teach children that the planet they live on is only 6000 years old Who has the temperament of a toddler Who wants to repeal marriage equality I don't know which of those is worse. Actually I do. The only thing worse that all of those things is losing to them. Imagine serving your country at the highest level for 30 years and losing to that. We have officially entered the ****ing Twilight Zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 4 minutes ago, MattP said: Any Corbynistas getting excited it could be up for grabs? Anti-establishment voting at an all time here, pollsters possibly manipulating public opinion? We were discussing this earlier. You have to admit, the idea of The Donald and Corbyn together is ****ing hilarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 8 minutes ago, MattP said: Any Corbynistas getting excited it could be up for grabs? Anti-establishment voting at an all time here, pollsters possibly manipulating public opinion? Christ that's distressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: We were discussing this earlier. You have to admit, the idea of The Donald and Corbyn together is ****ing hilarious. Given what Clinton said about Corbyn he'll probably be breathing a sigh of relief! Any potential relationship between him and her was gone after what Bill said. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/bill-clinton-jeremy-corbyn-maddest-person-speech-wikileaks-hack-a7404641.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 9 November 2016 Share Posted 9 November 2016 Forgot how much of a smug arsehole Kaine was as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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