Trump Triumphs

[ealingfox]

1 hour ago, Strokes said:

It's such a small minority I think figure we're a massive increase in hate but in real terms it was like a few hundred more. Some of them weren't even racially motivated, and a significant portion was online/social media abuse. 

It was literally a storm in a tea cup.

 

A few hundred more hate crime incidents is quite a lot - that's not what you're referring to?

 

Online/social media abuse isnt ok....

[Guest WarehamFox]

13 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

Lived off uppingham/gipsy lane Road 25 years ago for a few years fantastic times 

I lived on Litelmede just round the corner from the shite Vaz's office. Had family on Tomlin Road in the 70's! Would love to go back 40 years. At a guess I am gonna say you lived on Beckett Road!

[David Guiza]

Bernie Sanders has pretty much hit the nail on the head in his statement:-

 

"Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media.  People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids - all while the very rich become much richer. 

“To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.”

[MC Prussian]

30 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

What did you have for lunch ? 

Just as erratic as I thought you'd be.

[leicsmac]

http://whywereafraid.com/

 

All of these false flags?

[Webbo]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

http://whywereafraid.com/

 

All of these false flags?

How would any of us know? Racism existed before Donald Trump though and some people do look to be offended.

 

What do you expect people to do? Vote for something they don't believe in just in case somebody who was already racist decides to carry on being racist?

[Strokes]

28 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

A few hundred more hate crime incidents is quite a lot - that's not what you're referring to?

 

Online/social media abuse isnt ok....

Mmm not ok but not anywhere near as bad as made out.

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, Webbo said:

How would any of us know? Racism existed before Donald Trump though and some people do look to be offended.

 

What do you expect people to do? Vote for something they don't believe in just in case somebody who was already racist decides to carry on being racist?

Nope, people should vote their beliefs, and goodness knows that there were decent people overlooked for too long.

 

But blanket denials that there is a problem here that has been exacerbated by recent events and that might - just might - need to be addressed is disingenuous rubbish and I've been hearing way too much blanket denial.

[Guest WarehamFox]

1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said:

I am at a work event this week near Paris, and we had a very interesting guest speaker this evening.  A french professor of Geopolitical science, globally reknowned, who has indeed been on TV and radio for most of the last 24 hours.  He is very concerned about Trump on a number of key areas:

1) The soft power / influence of the USA has already been damaged by the result.

2) Trump is woefully ill qualified for the role, in particular understanding the complexities of international politics.

3) Trump has likely already undermined NATO to the point where Putin will see little downside in invading Ukraine in the short term.

4) Trump will not honour defence treaties with Japan or South Korea, which will upset the balance of power in the Pacific where Chain are already expanding their interests agressively.

 

Essentially the stability which has come from American Power and influence may well have just come to an end overnight, and the world is a much more dangerous place effective 9 am yesterday morning.  Unfortunately the guy was rather convincing,  His positive closing point was that the rise of populism and the far right is not a foregone conclusion, and we must fight for our moral values, and not allow other interests to silence us.

Does this French professor who is in the know, think that Trump will turn up on his own and just say what he wants? Do you not think that every President of the USA has  an army advisors and people in the know. Being with the Frenchies is turn you soft, get the white flags out there's a German coming. He he

[AKCJ]

http://i.imgur.com/mAIyc5F.gifv

 

 

 

[BlueSi13]

3 hours ago, MattP said:

Do people still seriously believe it's Trump supporters who go out doing that? I very much doubt it. More likely hard left activists so they can takethe picture, share ionfFacebook and smear the opponents. 

 

The one video I've seen online today is a group of blacks beating upa white guy for voting Trump .

 

But take anything you see on the Internet with a pinch of salt, even the BBC tried toblame that Polish bloke being killed in Harrow on a post Brexit mob attack and weeks later we find out it was a fight. 

I saw that.  Absolutely appalling.  Pretty much a public lynching in broad daylight where some of the actions could be classed as attempted murder.  Also from what I've read there was no evidence that the guy was actually a Trump voter, just an excuse to beat whitey.

 

Needless to say no major global news outlets are running with the story, obviously doesn't suit the narrative.  But just IMAGINE what the situation would be if it was the other way round.  It would be headline news on our own BBC for sure.

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, WarehamFox said:

I lived on Litelmede just round the corner from the shite Vaz's office. Had family on Tomlin Road in the 70's! Would love to go back 40 years. At a guess I am gonna say you lived on Beckett Road!

No Haynes amongst others 

[GaelicFox]

1 hour ago, MC Prussian said:

Just as erratic as I thought you'd be.

 your sharper than the average HB 

[ajthefox]

I'm still in awe of this.

 

America has just voted in a man who in the last year has, amongst other things, called for a ban on all muslims, claimed mexicans are rapists and criminals, has suggested violence against people who disagree with him and has condoned sexually assaulting women. 

 

What. The. Fvck.

[Jon the Hat]

2 hours ago, WarehamFox said:

Does this French professor who is in the know, think that Trump will turn up on his own and just say what he wants? Do you not think that every President of the USA has  an army advisors and people in the know. Being with the Frenchies is turn you soft, get the white flags out there's a German coming. He he

I'm sure you have been studying geopolitical issues since 1971, so I will bow to your superior knowledge here.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, BlueSi13 said:

Needless to say no major global news outlets are running with the story, obviously doesn't suit the narrative.  

Or perhaps they can't stand up the evidence? They don't just put anything they see on the Internet out for broadcast you know 

[Finnaldo]

8 hours ago, ajthefox said:

I'm still in awe of this.

 

America has just voted in a man who in the last year has, amongst other things, called for a ban on all muslims, claimed mexicans are rapists and criminals, has suggested violence against people who disagree with him and has condoned sexually assaulting women. 

 

What. The. Fvck.

 

Had the Democrats engaged in the people and offer them alternatives rather than call them racists, misogynists and deplorables they probably wouldn't have.

[davieG]

“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.”

― H.L. Mencken

[MC Prussian]

9 hours ago, ajthefox said:

I'm still in awe of this.

 

America has just voted in a man who in the last year has, amongst other things, called for a ban on all muslims, claimed mexicans are rapists and criminals, has suggested violence against people who disagree with him and has condoned sexually assaulting women. 

 

What. The. Fvck.

Reality TV has caught up with reality.

[leicsmac]

39 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:

 

Had the Democrats engaged in the people and offer them alternatives rather than call them racists, misogynists and deplorables they probably wouldn't have.

Right. Just goes to show that absolute honesty is not the most diplomatic nor the most successful policy in political situations.

 

It's telling that Trump won despite getting much less total votes than McCain and Romney.

[GazzinderFox]

34 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Right. Just goes to show that absolute honesty is not the most diplomatic nor the most successful policy in political situations.

 

It's telling that Trump won despite getting much less total votes than McCain and Romney.

Surely it's far more telling for the democrats...

[purpleronnie]

If you keep making consessions (to the right) just like Sanders did when he backed Clinton (as much as she can be considered left) then this is what you get, just like Corbyn has done, well then brexit and president Trump is what you reap.

 

 

 

 

[leicsmac]

23 minutes ago, GazzinderFox said:

Surely it's far more telling for the democrats...

Yup. Hillary could not motivate and could not unite and get turnout in the way Obama did. And so she failed.

[foxy boxing]

trump says he doesn't need any education

he looks like he's got complete control

all in all it's another brick in trump's wall

[GazzinderFox]

2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Yup. Hillary could not motivate and could not unite and get turnout in the way Obama did. And so she failed.

I've just been looking over the full Clintons rap-sheet going back to 1978 absolutely shocking. How they have avoided jail time when so many around them didn't is astounding, you have to wonder what goes on behind closed doors in Washington.