BenTheFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 10 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: Success is based on results. That's life. At work, if you do not produce, you do not progress. Rudkin failed as academy director - we have a shit academy. It serves no purpose. It doesn't subsidise the first team and one player every 12 years is not good enough. He's now failed as director of football. The club cannot continue to charge champions league prices when the club is run like a league one outfit. Sadly they can when idiots like me still pay it.
breadandcheese Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 minute ago, BenTheFox said: Sadly they can when idiots like me still pay it. We've found our scapegoat
BenTheFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Just now, breadandcheese said: We've found our scapegoat Sure if it'll make you feeel better.
breadandcheese Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Just now, BenTheFox said: Sure if it'll make you feeel better. Not really. When you look at how Palace have played this transfer window compared to us. Selling players and failing to replace. It smacks of complacency, that no one at the club really believed we were in a relegation battle. Well believe it now.
john ridley Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 The owners haven't got where they are by employing people not up the job , but I'm at a loss at how he's got where he has ,we're in real trouble now and I don't think there's anyone at the club that can advise them what to do for the best .
BenTheFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 minute ago, john ridley said: The owners haven't got where they are by employing people not up the job , but I'm at a loss at how he's got where he has ,we're in real trouble now and I don't think there's anyone at the club that can advise them what to do for the best . That's the problem. I'm struggling to believe that the financial backing wasn't there for the window. Maybe it wasn't, I don't know. But if the owners had been advised that we need X,Y and Z to avoid relegation then I'm sure the owners would have supplied the funds required.
Spiritwalker Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 I don't know if our failings are down to this guy but it's clear we are lacking as much direction off the pitch as we are on it.
J.Lisemore Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 I honestly think anybody on here could have done a better job than Rudkin. What did he even do?!! With all the rumours of decent players coming to our club... we end up with a udinese cast off on loan.
Chester Dontlie Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 one thing's for certain, his transfer goals are wague
BenTheFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 We need an experienced football man, regardless of the fact that Rudkin isn't solely responsible. Steve Walsh was that person. I know we signed many of his targets once he left, but he'd have a much stronger idea of where we go from our current situation. Rudderless on and off the pitch at the moment.
Dan Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Without a doubt. We have badly failed to capitalise on our strongest ever position and it's largely his doing.
Guest Cujek Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 6 hours ago, BenTheFox said: That's the problem. I'm struggling to believe that the financial backing wasn't there for the window. Maybe it wasn't, I don't know. But if the owners had been advised that we need X,Y and Z to avoid relegation then I'm sure the owners would have supplied the funds required. Funds is one thing, finding someone that wants to come here is another, it isn't footbal manager where transfers are completed with a few clicks
st albans fox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 14 minutes ago, Cujek said: Funds is one thing, finding someone that wants to come here is another, it isn't footbal manager where transfers are completed with a few clicks But they publically stated that they did want to come here - Ramirez and acerbi who were our two main targets. if we had blown both clubs out of the water with early bids that were acceptable then we would have both players. posing about with incremental bids from a low base puts the selling clubs nose out straight away and gives them no time to sort out a decent replacement as they have no idea how much they have to play with and little time to sort it. Its poor and we have word that the negotiating isn't rudkins bag so he may be getting stick when he has done his job by convincing the players to join. The owners should get the aggro and they will get rid of those who have let us all down. If they don't, them we know where the buck stops!
sk3since03 Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 It wasn't Kante that needed replacing it was Steve Walsh
Thracian Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 7 hours ago, john ridley said: The owners haven't got where they are by employing people not up the job , but I'm at a loss at how he's got where he has ,we're in real trouble now and I don't think there's anyone at the club that can advise them what to do for the best . Anyone can make mistakes and we've made a long list of them these last few months.
st albans fox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 1 hour ago, sk3since03 said: It wasn't Kante that needed replacing it was Steve Walsh Pearson didn't do too well without him either .......
Guest Chocolate Teapot Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Genuinely don't even know where to begin on this, but all I'll add is I agree with a lot of the comments on here.
Ric Flair Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 8 hours ago, john ridley said: The owners haven't got where they are by employing people not up the job , but I'm at a loss at how he's got where he has ,we're in real trouble now and I don't think there's anyone at the club that can advise them what to do for the best . You say that but both Andrew Neville and then John Rudkin have had promotions way above what you'd expect as normal. That disturbs me massively. I don't think they have a fcukin clue myself.
mozartfox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 The Forestry Commission needs to send in the Chain-saw squad to cut out all the dead wood. It will be carnage, but this needs to be done. The Owners need to bring in someone to over see a total review of the Club on and off the field, but at the same time some how ensure we finish above 18th. Then those that are deemed surplus should be told to go. Something is seriously wrong and it needs sorting NOW.
RowlattsFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 If Ranieri doesn't have much say on transfers then he needs to stop being mr nice guy and through Rudkin under the bus and say he's not happy. Yes January is difficult but to only sign a random centre back on loan in the whole window (Ndidi was agreed before the window began) is poor when during this time we have been atrocious in all aspects of our game. The one thing the owners lack is there management of the backroom staff, seem to prefer to give jobs to people they know and like rather than what is best for the club. Rudkin has spent most of his football career coaching kids, predominantly shit ones too.
TheUltimateWinner Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 What I find weird is that after we signed Ndidi Ranieri said he had final say on transfers. Then this week he came out and said he has nothing to do with them and he's just a head coach.
norwichfox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 2 minutes ago, TheUltimateWinner said: What I find weird is that after we signed Ndidi Ranieri said he had final say on transfers. Then this week he came out and said he has nothing to do with them and he's just a head coach. Maybe there's just too much going on in the background and no fooker has a clue what their job entails....although it seems the same scenario on the pitch, no leader during the game (other than Kasper)
Ricey Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 Jon Rudkin doesn't have the experience or pedigree for a modern DoF role. He has only ever worked within an academy, which let's be honest, has always underperformed. Look at Les Reed at Southampton. A man that has experienced a plethora of jobs at a high level throughout his career. A man with a common sense, measured, long-term way of thinking and with a clear vision about how the football operations at a club should be run. A man who has created a setup at Southampton that gives the club an identity, stability and success. A man who ensures no player is bigger than the club and replaces any want-a-way players quickly and effectively. A man who admits that he has a list of potential replacement managers updated at all times, just in case. Compare that to Mr Rudkin. A man who hasn't addressed a failing academy. A man whom doesn't fill gaping holes in the squad during transfer windows (Striker last January, Kante replacement in the summer and CB this window). A man who seems to be universally disliked. A man with seemingly no clear long-term plan, proven by the scattergun approach to transfers. But most worryingly for me, a man whom, when Pearson was sacked, did not have a list of replacements lined up and only considered Ranieri after he declared his interest in the job. Incredibly, we had a perfect Les Reed-esque person at the club for years and yet we let him leave for Everton. Walsh said he left because it was a promotion. The fact we didn't promote him within our structure and instead stuck with the incompetence of Rudkin is astounding and possibly the most damaging decision the club has made for years.
CosbehFox Posted 1 February 2017 Posted 1 February 2017 6 minutes ago, Ricey said: Jon Rudkin doesn't have the experience or pedigree for a modern DoF role. He has only ever worked within an academy, which let's be honest, has always underperformed. Look at Les Reed at Southampton. A man that has experienced a plethora of jobs at a high level throughout his career. A man with a common sense, measured, long-term way of thinking and with a clear vision about how the football operations at a club should be run. A man who has created a setup at Southampton that gives the club an identity, stability and success. A man who ensures no player is bigger than the club and replaces any want-a-way players quickly and effectively. A man who admits that he has a list of potential replacement managers updated at all times, just in case. Compare that to Mr Rudkin. A man who hasn't addressed a failing academy. A man whom doesn't fill gaping holes in the squad during transfer windows (Striker last January, Kante replacement in the summer and CB this window). A man who seems to be universally disliked. A man with seemingly no clear long-term plan, proven by the scattergun approach to transfers. But most worryingly for me, a man whom, when Pearson was sacked, did not have a list of replacements lined up and only considered Ranieri after he declared his interest in the job. Incredibly, we had a perfect Les Reed-esque person at the club for years and yet we let him leave for Everton. Walsh said he left because it was a promotion. The fact we didn't promote him within our structure and instead stuck with the incompetence of Rudkin is astounding and possibly the most damaging decision the club has made for years. Bingo, excellent post. Rudkin doesn't have the intelligence or experience to pull off the role. To top it off, he's an opinion splitting character. He was at war with Pearson, he saw off Walsh. How long before the owners realise ?
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