ousefox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 I think we should go for him. Next best thing to NP and we won't get him back. I also have the feeling that if Shakespeare wants the job, NP won't try and take it off him. They're obviously good mates and NP has mentioned in the past the he expected Shakespeare to be a manager one day.
Wymsey Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 I mentioned this earlier on in the day. Without Shakespeare, both Pearson and Ranieri would probably have been less effective in terms of management and tactics during their times here. He's like Rudkin (though more useful obviously) - not only does he knows the club well, but he knows the player's strengths/personalities and know how to put them all together as a unit and let them to decide with good effect in what to do in any on-field situation.
LewFox Posted 27 February 2017 Posted 27 February 2017 1 minute ago, jim5000 said: Shakespeare as manager and bring Pearson in as DoF. Ideal scenario; Pearson won't be swearing at the cameras but will be doing all of his excellent work behind the scenes in setting up how a football club should run. I like the idea, love it in fact, but he isn't coming back. I love him as I'm sure all Leicester fans do, I keep my head above water by watching the 'are you an ostrich' video and then again by watching 'the apology' video too
worthosoriginals Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 58 minutes ago, ManLikeVardy said: Lets not be reactionary, give him another 3 games. Until then, I'd still like to see Van Gaal at Leicester. Serving on the hot dog van? Turkey burger anybody? Does the nurse know you're out of bed?
Thracian Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 After tonight's display and the manner of it, I'd say Shakespeare should be given the reins until the end of the season with the promise that, if he keeps us up, he'll get first option to try to evolve what is as much his team as anyone's into the continuous trophy challengers it could be. For me we've wasted much of this season and squandered far too much money on people who aren't worthy of joining a pretty elite bunch when it comes to achievement. Shakespeare seems to have a blend of qualities that might well set him apart as a manager. He's recognised as a capable coach. He's humble enough to guage opinion. He has good people skills. And he seems to have the realistic attitudes on which the foundations of success can be built. I'm not saying he's a managerial superstar in the making - only time can tell us that. But I'd like to see him get the chance. It wasn't just the result I liked tonight. It was the goals we scored to get it, the balance of skills, and the collective effort we put in.
coolhandfox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 24 minutes ago, jim5000 said: Shakespeare as manager and bring Pearson in as DoF. Ideal scenario; Pearson won't be swearing at the cameras but will be doing all of his excellent work behind the scenes in setting up how a football club should run. No, he's had he's time, I think it's time for someone else!
Babylon Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 hour ago, Tuna said: Shakey - Manager Stowell - Assistant. Need a new first team coach, gk coach etc. This guys free. Could pay him in Cornish Pasties Remember when Stowell used to get the blame for anything shit happening, for all keeper mistakes etc.
MPH Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 23 hours ago, MPH said: I can not imagine any high profile manager would take the job at this stage of the season. They'd have 13 games to stamp their authority and way of thinking/ tactics on a team that is in disarray. Public opinion might argue that's enough time to save us but relegation is still a real possibility and going down could ruin their reputation. A short term appointment is the first option but for someone like hiddink that could still destroy his reputation. play well and inconceivably win against Liverpool and it will ease the pressure greatly and I think a couple more wins will switch the focus to appointing someone permanently at the end of the season. It makes you wonder what the priorities of the owners are? Get a high profile manager or someone who really clicks with the players and get the best out of them and if it's the latter, that's a very limited pool of people. however, one of them is currently In charge of team selection for tomorrow, and 3-4 quick wins and great performances would make it hard not to notice him. if he is then overlooked for a higher profile name the owners are in real danger of uncovering more holes in a sinking ship in a naive attempt to plug current ones. i wouldn't say Say shakey is my first choice ( I'm not sure who is) but if we want a return to the ' Pearson days' of a pressing game ,team spirit and everyone working for each other, then he has to be our best option until the end of the season at least.... Ahem.. think someone is reading this forum.. OpenLeicester Citymenu Craig Shakespeare: Leicester caretaker boss in frame to get job on permanent basis By Pat Murphy BBC Radio 5 live 1 hour ago From the sectionFootball Shakespeare stepped up from Leicester assistant to caretaker manager after Ranieri's sacking Caretaker boss Craig Shakespeare is firmly in contention for the Leicester manager's job on a longer-term basis following Claudio Ranieri's sacking. Shakespeare was Ranieri's assistant and is popular with the club's players. The 3-1 win over Liverpool on Monday boosted his chances of being given the job until at least the end of the term. After the win he said: "Could I do the job? I think I can. Does it faze me? No. We have to make sure the owners do what's right for the football club." No timescale has yet been set for the appointment, but if Shakespeare remains in charge for Saturday's home match against Hull City in the Premier League - a vital game for both clubs - a return of at least four points out of six and improved performances would count in his favour. "My remit was get them ready for Liverpool and I have done that," Shakespeare said. "Let's see what happens. I think it might be too early to make an appointment but the club will come to me if there are any changes." Shakespeare represents continuity, having been at the side of previous managers Nigel Pearson and Ranieri. And, with just 12 games left this season, other candidates with higher profiles may not feel they have enough time left to arrest the slide. Shakespeare gets on well with the players and is a highly regarded coach. Former England coach Sam Allardyce thought enough of him to bring him into his coaching set-up with the national team, despite never having worked with him. The Leicester hierarchy felt Shakespeare handled himself well in a difficult situation when he met the media after Ranieri's departure, showing just the right amount of steely ambition when asked if he would like the job full-time while dealing diplomatically with some tough questions. He was also smart enough to avoid publicly shaming the players - knowing he has to work with them for at least a few more days. Ranieri didn't lose dressing room - Leicester City caretaker What about the other candidates? Former Chelsea interim manager Guus Hiddink has massive experience and would command immediate respect from the Leicester players. Money would be no object in securing Hiddink, but it is arguable whether he would want the job after working at, or near, the top of the Premier League. Although Pearson would be a popular replacement with many senior players who worked with him until the summer of 2015, I understand it is unlikely after the circumstances that led to his departure. Former Manchester City and Inter Milan boss Roberto Mancini, meanwhile, is seen as a potentially divisive influence, at a time when a strong team spirit is vital. Who will make the decision? A panel of three - chief executive Susan Whelan, director of football John Rudkin, and football operations director Andrew Neville - will sift through the candidates, but the decision rests with the owner and chairman Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. Rudkin is close to the chairman, who relies on his football knowledge, but there is no doubt who will be in charge of the appointment. Fundamentally, it is all down to the chairman - and having surprised so many when appointing Ranieri, and been vindicated, he will back his judgement after taking the necessary soundings.
Dan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Definitely gets it until the end of the season for me and we re-assess again in the summer.
Foxxed Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 2 hours ago, Paddy. said: This is in no way a criticism of Shakey, he's by all accounts a brilliant assistant manager and the players clearly love him but therein lies the problem I think. A number 2 often has the luxury of being the good cop and I've heard a lot about how good he is at raising spirits which IMHO is an approach that usually works brilliantly in the short term but not so much in the longer term. I guess that's why so many assistants who do go on to be managers tend to do really well at first before fizzing out quite quickly. Agreed, but if the team is so tight knit that they'll reject a new manager's changes, then maybe Shakey is the best bet. And if they do run themselves into the ground with Shakey, and the tried and tested route, then it'll be easier for a new manager to carry through changes. Obviously this all hangs on results at Hull, Arsenal and Sevilla.
Bunyip Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 3 hours ago, peterborofox said: Did well tonight but I'm unsure about him long term. Think he's a very good coach but unsure if he is a manager Coach - Manager ? difficult these days to know the difference .
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 The players love the guy and like Pearson he plays the style of football that suits our players... we dominated 70mins of that game today, literally the whole season we haven't done that, pressed high and protected our limited defenders...
Dan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Makes you wonder how much tactical influence he had on last season as well. That was literally last season's side. Even Ndidi played to Kante's level.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 8 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: Makes you wonder how much tactical influence he had on last season as well. That was literally last season's side. Even Ndidi played to Kante's level. Shaky is the man for us I feel... Ranieri admitted to listening to him last season, this season I think CR tried to put his own influence on the team and wasn't willing to listen. Today was last seasons Leicester because Shakespeare had a voice. Pearson was only a good manager when he was around, but at least he listened too him. I think we have the man we need and I'm hoping the owners saw it, no need for a classy appointment just someone the players trust and understand just Craig Shakespeare's interview before the match, he felt he was ready and spoke in such a positive manner... I love the guy
VLC86 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Heard you didn't get on this at 16/1 levels? Sorry about that.
NewEnglandFox Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Who is his support staff? Nigel and Walsh are gone and now Ranieri is too. Would he bring Chris Powell back from Derby? I'm fine with him being the manger but I'm worried about who the rest of his package will be. Or if he even wants to stay now he's the last man standing.
Dan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 13 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Shaky is the man for us I feel... Ranieri admitted to listening to him last season, this season I think CR tried to put his own influence on the team and wasn't willing to listen. Today was last seasons Leicester because Shakespeare had a voice. Pearson was only a good manager when he was around, but at least he listened too him. I think we have the man we need and I'm hoping the owners saw it, no need for a classy appointment just someone the players trust and understand just Craig Shakespeare's interview before the match, he felt he was ready and spoke in such a positive manner... I love the guy I do feel like I'm over-reacting to one result when I say it but I do get the gut feeling that maybe Shakespeare did have a lot of the brains behind this. The similarities to last season were almost eerie. It was a terrific performance, full of heart, full of energy, full of quality. It was everything I want to see from Leicester. For me it's re-ignited the season. I actually go into that Sevilla home leg thinking that we have a genuine chance of going through now, whereas before I was expecting the pasting they ought to have given us at the Pizjuan. I just don't think it's a co-incidence that the closer Shakespeare seems to this team, the better we play. It's never just one person, but he quite clearly knows how to get these players to tick. Not enough to say give him the full-time role, but I am that satisfied by what I've seen tonight that I would go as far as saying I could see us powering our way into around 9th or 10th. I'm deadly serious. It was that impressive. *Cue Leicester 0-2 Hull*
Dan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Just now, NewEnglandFox said: Who is his support staff? Nigel and Shakey are gone and now Ranieri is too. Would he bring Chris Powell back from Derby? I'm fine with him being the manger but I'm worried about who the rest of his package will be. Or if he even wants to stay now he's the last man standing. They'll have contacts. Pearson did gradually used to grow his backroom team. I reckon if he did get the job he'd have the right people in place to make it really tick.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 4 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said: I do feel like I'm over-reacting to one result when I say it but I do get the gut feeling that maybe Shakespeare did have a lot of the brains behind this. The similarities to last season were almost eerie. It was a terrific performance, full of heart, full of energy, full of quality. It was everything I want to see from Leicester. For me it's re-ignited the season. I actually go into that Sevilla home leg thinking that we have a genuine chance of going through now, whereas before I was expecting the pasting they ought to have given us at the Pizjuan. I just don't think it's a co-incidence that the closer Shakespeare seems to this team, the better we play. It's never just one person, but he quite clearly knows how to get these players to tick. Not enough to say give him the full-time role, but I am that satisfied by what I've seen tonight that I would go as far as saying I could see us powering our way into around 9th or 10th. I'm deadly serious. It was that impressive. *Cue Leicester 0-2 Hull* I liked Shakespeare's pre-match interview full of confidence , he wants the job and I think he is a man that knows the players want him to have it
Dan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 1 minute ago, foxes_rule1978 said: I liked Shakespeare's pre-match interview full of confidence , he wants the job and I think he is a man that knows the players want him to have it I think he's handled it excellently so far. I'd 100% give it him for the rest of this season.
TheLittleBigMan Posted 28 February 2017 Posted 28 February 2017 Would prefer him to be in charge for our relegation fight - we are still in one let's not forget. He know's exactly what's needed to get our team going, that fight and determination is the bases for our survival. If we hire someone else it's only going to be shakey who has to teach them anyway. Along with us fans we have it as good as it's ever going to be for the remainder of the season. Let's get on with this sh*t. Up the foxes.
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