Blackpool Fox 69 Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 53 minutes ago, Sharpe's Fox said: Anyone who would be happy with this 70 year old, geriatric failure of a "football manager" when we have a modern, forward-thinking coach who has the respect of everyone at the club advertising himself for the post needs their heads looked at. Shakey has given everything to this club for 8 years and we should respect him and make our feelings known to the owners on Saturday. One Craig Shakespeare. You Sir are spot on! Not a protest, but letting everyone know Roy"I don't know why I'm here" Hodgson is a no from us! I was unhappy Claudio was dispensed with but feel apart from Rowett, of our options right now, Shakespeare is the best person for the job, due to his relationship with the players.
Buzzell Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 God going from Ranieri to Hodgson is bloody depressing.
SystonFox Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 53 minutes ago, Strokes said: I'd be disappointed. Whereas I would just be content. I think
fuchsntf Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 If over 60, than the choice would need to be exceptional, Hodgson whos not had a bad club record, an avg International record, with his last 3-6 months abysmal. Should not even be contemplated for the manager job at LCFC.
Webbo Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 I honestly don't know who I want. Rowet or ONeil are a gamble Hodgson wouldn't be that bad. Eddie Howe maybe? Who the fvck know?
smr Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 I'd rather do a naked handstand and have a big steaming dump on myself than have roy hodgson as our manager.
bridport007 Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 Just now, HighPeakFox said: If you're serious, you're now disqualified from serious opinion... Why?...Because you say so? Hodgson is a joke in my opinion...and that's all it is.... 'my' opinion. The man was clueless in his last job, and not just in one tournament either. He's so negative.and will bring zero to the table. I don't buy in to this he'll steady the ship opinion...where's the ambition? We won the League and should be looking to kick on, not settle for also ran's? Last year we had a team that was like a 2 seater sports car, with Hodgson, we'll become a Beige Austin Allegro.
erlee Posted 2 March 2017 Posted 2 March 2017 i will be upset & discontent.. if it really come down to Woy - i am done. confirms what the owners know about football & coaches
Jobyfox Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 I'm actually usually quite pragmatic about these sort of things and say that I'd give anyone a chance. However, I would be extremely disappointed if we turned to Hodgson. In England he's always been a bang average manager. For the England national team he was a catastrophic failure. He went into the tournament selecting injured or out of form players over those in form. He had no semblance of a game plan, idea of formation or what players he should use. He then played players out of position and gave individuals roles that baffled those watching (such as Harry Kane on corners). Wherever you sit on the Ranieri debate you would have to concede that the owners have made a very strong decision. Some would say ruthless. It was a move that said that we aren't going to settle for Leicester's historic position as a club that flirts between the top two leagues. It suggested that they have loftier ambitions in the long term. To me, the appointment of Hodgson would be a statement that the owners aren't, in fact, that ambitious at all - but are more than happy to settle for mediocrity.
HighPeakFox Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 27 minutes ago, bridport007 said: Why?...Because you say so? Hodgson is a joke in my opinion...and that's all it is.... 'my' opinion. The man was clueless in his last job, and not just in one tournament either. He's so negative.and will bring zero to the table. I don't buy in to this he'll steady the ship opinion...where's the ambition? We won the League and should be looking to kick on, not settle for also ran's? Last year we had a team that was like a 2 seater sports car, with Hodgson, we'll become a Beige Austin Allegro. No, because you claimed potential embarrassment. The most overused and irrelevant word on this forum.
WigstonWanderer Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 Worst possible appointment out of all the ones mooted IMO. Even if you think he's a decent manager, he is unlikely to want to keep with the sort of style displayed against Liverpool. This means a longer term project (at age 70, that by itself should rule this appointment out) and a transition period without the ability to bring in new players. Relegation assured in the short term. I just can't see anyone (except possibly Pearson) getting the best out of the players we have other than Shakey, anyone else would want to move to a different style and require new players. From Roy's point of view this is probably just a good way to top up the pension fund. Doesn't really matter what happens, if he can secure a long enough contract he will get a good payoff, and I think our owners are probably naive enough to go along with it.
Thracian Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 I don't see age has anything to do with it - there are plenty of awful younger managers. He just doesn't excite me. People differentiate between international and club football but it's all just football to me and pretty grim for much of the time when watching England and that without mentioning the eccentricities. I'd much rather see Shaky steer us clear of our relegation crisis and get the chance to make his own name and in a manner that gives us a club to be proud of. Let's promote in house, make our own managerial legend, and add to our own story. The bloke's earned it.
foxes_rule1978 Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 Shaky till the end of season please, and then Wenger...
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 7 minutes ago, Tuna said: 94% say NO. Overwhelmingly negative reaction on Woy. Do you really think, the owners care about the opinion of a few hundred FT members? As we all know, they like PR stunts. And signing a former England manager would be a big one. We should never forget: the Thais bought LCFC to use it as a marketing tool for King Power. Not because they love football so much or wanted to help us. But, perhaps, it doesnt't matter at all, whom the will sign in the end: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/firing-claudio-ranieri-wont-fix-leicester-city/
Tuna Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 5 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Shaky till the end of season please, and then Wagner... Fixed it for you
STUHILL Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 I"d prefer to give Shakey a shot than this. Woy obviously has a wealth of experience and did a decent job at WBA and Fulham but those can easily be cancelled out by poor jobs he did at Liverpool and with England. At 70, he isn't a great long-term option for us. I'm sure his hunger is still there and I read he loves being on the training pitch more than anything else. I just wonder what a 70 year old has left to give over a longer term basis. Hopefully they delay any final decision until after the Hull game, to see how Shakey has us performing again. Not for me, but if it happens, then I will support the club as usual and hope to be proved wrong.
STUHILL Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 29 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Shaky till the end of season please, and then Wenger... If Shakey keeps us up, then why would we replace him? Surely it means he did a good job and deserves a chance to continue. I would also be concerned that Shakey could be pushed out by a new manager wanting his own backroom staff.
foxfanazer Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 I'd give him 3 games to impress me and if he gets anything less than 12 points he's out the door!
Struwwelpeter60 Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 "But does sacking a football manager have an effect? Not very much of one, a growing body of evidence suggests. There is over a 90 percent correlation between teams’ wages and their results, according to analysis of teams’ spending and results from 1973 to 2010 in “Soccernomics,” a book by Simon Kuper and Stefan Szymanski. That leaves less than 10 percent to be decided by other factors — who its manager is, injuries, scouting and plain old luck. In English football from 1973 to 2010, Kuper and Szymanski found, only 10 percent of top-flight managers consistently overachieved when wages were taken into account. A very select few managers do make a difference, but most have a negligible impact on how a club performs." Tim Wigmore, FiveThirtyEight "Today, the average Premier League manager — except Arsene Wenger, in his 21st year at Arsenal — lasts a little over a year, slightly shorter than Ranieri’s reign. That doesn’t leave much time for a manager to leave a mark." Tim Wigmore, FiveThirtyEight Just something to think about.
lee7 Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 Looks like it's a unanimous no on Hodgson then! From what I read on the mercury website they couldn't find too many fans that wanted him either! Hopefully somehow this filters back to the owners if they are genuinely considering him.
UPinCarolina Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 Where are people getting this Wenger schtick from?
STUHILL Posted 3 March 2017 Posted 3 March 2017 I wish we had done an approval rating for Claudio before he joined. Guessing it wouldn't have been this bad, but probably still more than 50% negative. With appointing new managers, you just never know which way it will go. Could be a disaster as many of us are predicting, or could go completely the other way and everything just clicks. Whoever comes in, I will give them my support until the results no longer justify it. Would prefer Shakey and hope he stays on no matter who comes in, but if its Woy (fingers crossed no!) then so be it
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