truebluethroughandthrough Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 19 minutes ago, Fox92 said: Can't see us finishing 9th with our typical boring style of play. I'm looking over my shoulder more than ahead. The same boring style that won the league?? in the three years we have been back we have finished 14th, 1st and 12th, which suggests we are the most unpredictable team in the league. So I predict anywhere between 5th and 14th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 12 minutes ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: The same boring style that won the league?? in the three years we have been back we have finished 14th, 1st and 12th, which suggests we are the most unpredictable team in the league. So I predict anywhere between 5th and 14th. Nah man that year we were quicker and it was new. Now everybody knows whats coming. We've only got one outlet. Just pray Vardy doesn't get injured. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MC Prussian Posted 23 July 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 23 July 2017 (edited) I look at the money spent by Manchester City especially, and I'm a bit sad. Kyle Walker, Danilo, Ederson, Mendy and that Brazilian Douglas Luiz are nowhere near worth that much, but they are worth that much in the eye of the buyer. Over £200m for six players in total - unbelievable. Frightening, even. The longer it goes on and the transfer values continue to rise on a yearly basis (or even every six months or so), the more detached I sort of become from it all. The money no longer justifies the move. Within England in particular, we are now operating in spheres that have little to no connection to the real world or the world of the regular worker, the regular fan. It's a sad indication of how little the focus is on sports these days in the Premier League especially, and how much it is all about the corporate and marketing side of things. I do hope we continue to buy and invest wisely and I sort of hope Manchester City (and their peers who are throwing money around like crazy, such as Arsenal et al.) crash and burn and fail to win the title. £60m for Morata? You're having a laugh, Chelsea! Edited 23 July 2017 by MC Prussian 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes21 Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 Imo we should invest more in our academy, so we can bring players through instead of having to overpay for players from abroad/England. The prices in the transfer market are only going to get worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 (edited) I don't see Man City doing nearly as well as some believe. They have very complacent CBs, no recognised LB, average CMs and at present, a highly inexperienced first choice GK. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Sterling and Stones transfer prices, because now every club knows that they're either moronic or impatient enough to pay the same for their players. Edited 23 July 2017 by The Floyd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RODNEY FERNIO Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 That's realistically the only way a club of our size can operate in this market ... nurture good young players like Barnes/ Chilwell and spot the bargains with potential like Kante, Mahrez , N'Didi, Gray, Nacho etc. Its inevitable when the big boys come knocking those players will go but at least we have a healthy profit to reinvest. You can see this with other clubs of similar size like Southampton who have produced some great players and now you can see it in France with the plundering of Monaco. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitchandro Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 2 hours ago, truebluethroughandthrough said: The same boring style that won the league?? in the three years we have been back we have finished 14th, 1st and 12th, which suggests we are the most unpredictable team in the league. So I predict anywhere between 5th and 14th. I've not seen much evidence of us playing the style that won us the league recently, glimpses only over the last year. I will be looking very closely at how we play against Arsenal. Let's see if Shakespeare has learnt from his and Ranieri's mistakes last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 1 hour ago, The Floyd said: I don't see Man City doing nearly as well as some believe. They have very complacent CBs, no recognised LB, average CMs and at present, a highly inexperienced first choice GK. I think they shot themselves in the foot with the Sterling and Stones transfer prices, because now every club knows that they're either moronic or impatient enough to pay the same for their players. They've signed Mendy to play left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stadt Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 What are the top clubs supposed to do? Not buy anyone because they're expensive? Chelsea needed a striker and it was case of Morata or Lukaku who'd both cost a shitload. Every team in the world knows United, City and Chelsea are loaded so the selling club is going to hold for an inflated sum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Floyd Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 4 minutes ago, Facecloth said: They've signed Mendy to play left back. Apologies, saw they'd agreed a deal shortly after I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 7 minutes ago, The Floyd said: Apologies, saw they'd agreed a deal shortly after I posted. Doesn't take away the other points though about what they lack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truebluethroughandthrough Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Kitchandro said: I've not seen much evidence of us playing the style that won us the league recently, glimpses only over the last year. I will be looking very closely at how we play against Arsenal. Let's see if Shakespeare has learnt from his and Ranieri's mistakes last season. Against Man City, West Ham away stoke etc was pretty much the same qualities and tactics as the previous season. But you're right we didn't see it enough. Man City played to our strengths, I know but no other team hammered them the way we did for the first half hour. The main problem last season for me was when the opponent was stronger in the centre - we struggled. I believe shaky will now play a 3 in the middle against those superior sides. James, Ndidi and Iborra may be a bit too defensive but I genuinely think most midfields would struggle against it. In time I may well be proved to be wrong and way off the mark as I have many times in the past, but now is a time for most Leicester fans to be happy and genuinely excited by the upcoming season. Never in my time supporting this club have we been in a healthier situation. Just don't get the negativity when the transfer business hasn't even been completed, let alone a ball being kicked. Edited 23 July 2017 by truebluethroughandthrough 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Far Post Gerry Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 41 minutes ago, Wookie said: What are the top clubs supposed to do? Not buy anyone because they're expensive? Chelsea needed a striker and it was case of Morata or Lukaku who'd both cost a shitload. Every team in the world knows United, City and Chelsea are loaded so the selling club is going to hold for an inflated sum. Well it'd be nice if they used their academies properly and gave a chance to some local youngsters, or even take a punt on some promising players from lower divisions. Sadly the risk of failure seems to be too great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 23 July 2017 Share Posted 23 July 2017 3 hours ago, Far Post Gerry said: Well it'd be nice if they used their academies properly and gave a chance to some local youngsters, or even take a punt on some promising players from lower divisions. Sadly the risk of failure seems to be too great. You've summed it up. Sky/the Premier League have created this. I saw Gary Neville on twitter this morning criticisng Manchester City for spending big and not investing into youth or whatever and I'm thinking, this is the same Neville that works for Sky. There's that much money in the division that clubs can afford to go out and spend £200million. Even promoted clubs such as Huddersfield, a locally owned club, spend £10mill+ on players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ealingfox Posted 24 July 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 24 July 2017 Guardiola will look a complete fraud if they don't win something this season. I can't see any excuses left for him now. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Guardiola will look a complete fraud if they don't win something this season. I can't see any excuses left for him now. They'll probably still concede loads like last season. None of the signings really are of excellent value. Edited 24 July 2017 by Wymeswold fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 Man City have spent 130m on full backs in the last couple of weeks. Disgraceful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richardsfoxes Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 If this window has shown anything it's that the gap between Chelsea, Man Utd, Man city is still humongous from everyone else when it comes to financial power, 372M spent under Guardiola....disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tielemans63 Posted 24 July 2017 Popular Post Share Posted 24 July 2017 (edited) 49 minutes ago, ealingfox said: Guardiola will look a complete fraud if they don't win something this season. I can't see any excuses left for him now. 21 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Man City have spent 130m on full backs in the last couple of weeks. Disgraceful. Agree with both of you. Interesting words from Uli Hoeness at Bayern. He doesn't name Man City directly but quite clearly directed at them and others spending gazillions. Hits the nail on the head for me. Although you could reasonably say that Bayern aren't exactly 100% organic either. Edited 24 July 2017 by Paddy. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon84 Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 49 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: They'll probably still concede loads like last season. None of the signings really are of excellent value. Value or not, Walker, Danilo and Mendy are huge upgrades on Clichy, Sagna, Kolarov and Zabaleta (though I always liked him). Man City will be considerably stronger this year. Whether they'll win the league though, I'm unsure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 16 minutes ago, Darkon84 said: Value or not, Walker, Danilo and Mendy are huge upgrades on Clichy, Sagna, Kolarov and Zabaleta (though I always liked him). Man City will be considerably stronger this year. Whether they'll win the league though, I'm unsure. may be - but man city have a very poor record when it comes to integrating stellar signings in to a team. Their inconsistency is the only thing that is consistent about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkon84 Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 5 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: may be - but man city have a very poor record when it comes to integrating stellar signings in to a team. Their inconsistency is the only thing that is consistent about them. Most teams struggle with the integration of big new signings, even ourselves. Looking back at some of their good ones, they've had players like Yaya, Fernandinho, Silva, Aguero, De Bruyne all hit the ground running and that's not a bad list to have. Stones obviously hasn't but that's as he's not that great anyway. I still think they'll be considerably better this year. As things stand, I think Chelsea are in a worse position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 23 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: may be - but man city have a very poor record when it comes to integrating stellar signings in to a team. Their inconsistency is the only thing that is consistent about them. It's always going to be difficult though because it's just 11 expensive players thrown together. Silva, Aguero and Kompany have been top players for them. De Bruyne looks special as does Sane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goose2010 Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 City will be devasting going forward but surely prone to teams who play on the counter attack. They will be fun to watch but most teams (us included) will just try and soak up the pressure and strike on the counter. Man City, Man United and Chelsea are miles ahead in terms of spending power but its just how quick they blend in, it maybe a blessing we are playing them so early in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 24 July 2017 Share Posted 24 July 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, ealingfox said: Guardiola will look a complete fraud if they don't win something this season. I can't see any excuses left for him now. You can't spend over 200 million in one transfer window, add that to an existing squad that cost God knows what, and not win a major trophy. I agree. No excuses. If this really WERE business, Guardiola would be expected to achieve set targets or be sacked. No doubt about it. Their squad is just ridiculous. Edited 24 July 2017 by Col city fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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