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Kapustka to Freiburg - Now Agreed

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Posted
1 hour ago, Babylon said:

What the german kids have won has got absolutely nothing to do with it, all it means in they produce some good players. Banging in a few goals against Ingolstadt, Augsberg, FC Darmstadt and Germania E/L means noting in terms of what someone can do in our league as they are entirely difference beasts.  What works their, might not work here.

 

Yep Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen and Schalke are shite.. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Soundman said:

We have some top quality scouts in this forum who can tell how good a player when said player has played practically no first team games in over a year.

 

we need to sign them up ;) 

Aside from it being constructive dismissal. Clearly there's a reason he didn't get a game? Disappointing I know, but I don't think we'd leave him to flounder if he was showing anything in training.

 

Perhaps he's pally with Musa and was getting tactical tips from him!!

Posted
1 minute ago, Marshall Cockney Fox said:

Aside from it being constructive dismissal. Clearly there's a reason he didn't get a game? Disappointing I know, but I don't think we'd leave him to flounder if he was showing anything in training.

 

Perhaps he's pally with Musa and was getting tactical tips from him!!

as much as I agree,  you can't immediately put it down to him, you could also put it down to poor management decisions ?

Posted
1 hour ago, Soundman said:

We have some top quality scouts in this forum who can tell how good a player when said player has played practically no first team games in over a year.

 

we need to sign them up ;) 

Perhaps if he was that good, the people who are actually employed by the club would actually play him and not sell him to a two bit German team.

Posted
Just now, Babylon said:

Perhaps if he was that good, the people who are actually employed by the club would actually play him and not sell him to a two bit German team.

Perhaps his style-of-play isn't essential for this league in particular, and hence is more-suited to the German league?

Both appear different league in terms of how teams play.

Posted
Just now, Wymeswold fox said:

Perhaps his style-of-play isn't essential for this league in particular, and hence is more-suited to the German league?

Both appear different league in terms of how teams play.

Which is exactly what I've been saying, but apparently scoring a penno against Dortmund means our other export over there is AMAZING

Posted
19 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Perhaps if he was that good, the people who are actually employed by the club would actually play him and not sell him to a two bit German team.

Sign you up!

 

you're obviously an expert 

Posted
22 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Means he'll go on loan to Freiberg and they can buy him for 6m at the end if they want. 

 

Would rather he just go on loan without the purchase clause tbh. 

Do we have a buy back clause for him? I'm all for them! :ph34r:

Posted
3 hours ago, mozartfox said:

Yep Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen and Schalke are shite.. 

And the abysmal German national side - utter sh** and they've won nothing.

Posted
On 19/04/2017 at 23:25, Tuna said:

You have to wonder what we were thinking signing him with no real plan on how to use him.

 

 

He  was never given a chance imo. Sad really as he probably quite talented. 

 

Posted
On 7/1/2017 at 20:13, Jacnah said:

WTF is a 'roster'? It's called a 'squad'. We'll be calling it soccerball next

:D

Hah, not the first time I have been called out on this forum for inadvertent American sports terminology. 

Posted

 

He's young lad and the move to us represented a big change for him, not only in terms of playing but also in terms of personal life. One of the issues at heart might be he just hasn't got to grips with the life style / language and his football has suffered because of it - meaning a move back towards Central Europe might be best for him and his career.

Posted
3 hours ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

He's young lad and the move to us represented a big change for him, not only in terms of playing but also in terms of personal life. One of the issues at heart might be he just hasn't got to grips with the life style / language and his football has suffered because of it - meaning a move back towards Central Europe might be best for him and his career.

Some imports settle,  some don't. It's a pity we don't seem able to judge which are which.    

Posted
1 hour ago, Thracian said:

Some imports settle,  some don't. It's a pity we don't seem able to judge which are which.    

How could anyone possibly know in advance?

Posted
3 minutes ago, chicagofox said:

How could anyone possibly know in advance?

It'd require a thesis to answer that. But I do wonder sometimes about the depth of our homework before making some of our signings.  

Posted
12 hours ago, vanity said:

Hah, not the first time I have been called out on this forum for inadvertent American sports terminology. 

hahaha...always worth it just to wind old gits like me up......i would!! :D

Posted
9 hours ago, Thracian said:

It'd require a thesis to answer that. But I do wonder sometimes about the depth of our homework before making some of our signings.  

 

Given the articles that have referenced our scouting processes over the last few years, it would appear that we're fairly solid in doing our homework, especially if you consider some of the signings that haven't worked out here have then gone on and shown the base talent that must have attracted us in their following move. 

 

But you can never tell whether someone will become home sick, especially a young lad who may also have found it difficult to pick up the language. 

Posted
13 minutes ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

Given the articles that have referenced our scouting processes over the last few years, it would appear that we're fairly solid in doing our homework, especially if you consider some of the signings that haven't worked out here have then gone on and shown the base talent that must have attracted us in their following move. 

 

But you can never tell whether someone will become home sick, especially a young lad who may also have found it difficult to pick up the language. 

Your comment highlights exactly where we're falling down. It's not about what we see in potential recruits as footballers, but as people. And I don't mean obvious things like turning up to training on time.

 

I think you can find out lots about people if you go the right way about it but it does take some time and trouble. There'd still be no guarantees and there'd still be the problem of being strong enough to reject someone whose football suggested they'd be successful but whose character suggested they wouldn't,

 

Or to  decide you like the player and can find the time to fix the accclimatisation problems and get the player to understand the need/requirements for that process. Seems to me we're too casual or gung ho about these things - at least from the number of times we so clearly get it wrong. 

 

It's almost as if we're so intent on getting recruits we factor in failures yet, sometimes, those failures are costing silly sums,     

 

 

 

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, Thracian said:

Your comment highlights exactly where we're falling down. It's not about what we see in potential recruits as footballers, but as people. And I don't mean obvious things like turning up to training on time.

 

I think you can find out lots about people if you go the right way about it but it does take some time and trouble. There'd still be no guarantees and there'd still be the problem of being strong enough to reject someone whose football suggested they'd be successful but whose character suggested they wouldn't,

 

Or to  decide you like the player and can find the time to fix the accclimatisation problems and get the player to understand the need/requirements for that process. Seems to me we're too casual or gung ho about these things - at least from the number of times we so clearly get it wrong. 

 

It's almost as if we're so intent on getting recruits we factor in failures yet, sometimes, those failures are costing silly sums,     

 

 

 

 

 

But the evidence I've seen is we do look at more than pure footballing ability and do consider the soft skills and character traits of a player and that these play as much importance in our decisions on transfers. 

 

Maybe that foxus was lost a little under Claudio... but consider the signings of Iborra, Maguire and the pending one of Iheanacho and you could consider we are looking at more than just a players ability.

Posted

Shakey in one of his interviews alluded to the importance he places on players personalities in recruitment. Saying something about him picking up the phone and very easily finding out about what a players personality was like. 

Posted
1 hour ago, DJ Barry Hammond said:

 

But the evidence I've seen is we do look at more than pure footballing ability and do consider the soft skills and character traits of a player and that these play as much importance in our decisions on transfers. 

 

Maybe that foxus was lost a little under Claudio... but consider the signings of Iborra, Maguire and the pending one of Iheanacho and you could consider we are looking at more than just a players ability.

Indeed, and I'm inclined to believe it's another bonus of Shakespeare being appointed manager.    

Posted
1 hour ago, brucey said:

Shakey in one of his interviews alluded to the importance he places on players personalities in recruitment. Saying something about him picking up the phone and very easily finding out about what a players personality was like. 

He just rings them up and asks "are you an Ostrich?" lol

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