AmarteyAndChill Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, Moksky said: Youre guess is as good as mine. Musa is not good enough, and Lawrence unproven at this level. We also have Kaputska. I wouldn't exactly say Gray is premier league proven either?
Argarath Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 I wonder if Arsenal are prepaired for total destruction of their fb page?
hackneyfox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 44 minutes ago, Moksky said: Im talking of resentment from within the dressing from other players. Im not saying who, not money the cloud over hanging over his saga Surely the players have only just returned to training today, Mahrez isn't currently there and this 'saga' started a few weeks back while they were all away.
st albans fox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 2 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Surely the players have only just returned to training today, Mahrez isn't currently there and this 'saga' started a few weeks back while they were all away. The saga started last summer. I suspect some of the players weren't impressed back then as it dragged through pre season and into the real stuff.
st albans fox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Btw, despite those not interested in the odds, skybet's 1/7 is a price you rarely see not come to a conclusion. I can't recall anyone being 1/6 or shorter and it not happening (vardy apart and we know riyad isn't going to have a sudden realisation that he is making a mistake)
Moksky Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 18 minutes ago, AmarteyAndChill said: I wouldn't exactly say Gray is premier league proven either? True, but he has a lot more experience than anybody else, and feels he is being hard done to not starting week in week out.
Nickfosse Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 25 minutes ago, Moksky said: True, but he has a lot more experience than anybody else, and feels he is being hard done to not starting week in week out. And therein lies his problem. He really has to stop feeling sorry for himself, spend less time down Broad Street and fulfill his undoubted potential. From what I hear, Barnes has a much better attitude and hunger. I think Gray could learn a lot from that mindset.
Moksky Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, Nickfosse said: And therein lies his problem. He really has to stop feeling sorry for himself, spend less time down Broad Street and fulfill his undoubted potential. From what I hear, Barnes has a much better attitude and hunger. I think Gray could learn a lot from that mindset. I dont like his attitude to date. He thinks hes better then he has shown so far, constantly tweeting, his agent touting him about. Get you head down and earn your place, and work to keep it
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 hours ago, Moksky said: Put it like this, its not a panic, look at Everton, they have identified what they want and gone out and got it. There are no hard and fast rule to signing players. I would almost certainly say get it done early, get the players into pre season all together and gelling. There is time yes, but early bird catches the worm. We ****ed about appointing Shakey. Correct.
FLAN Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 I'd imagine the resentment might be towards him being played regardless of form last season just to keep him sweet and now his desire to leave after putting in so many under par performances. And he's always late for training etc isn't he?
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 hour ago, Gary Eatfood said: Vardy then. Yes and if is Vardy I don't blame him. Don't forget Mahrez didn't pass to him for 2 months during last season - they are supposed to be team mates, strike partners ffs. Mahrez didn't try / had the hand brake on last season. Turns up late for training. Takes the penalties as opposed to the main striker - why when 1 in 3 he misses? Yet he started virtually every game. Those circumstances are nailed on to breed resentment. Mahrez has a attitude which is at odds with most the 'old guard' (those that won the Championship) and he was pandered to by both managers last season to the detriment of the team. If he was my team mate it would be all I could do - preventing myself from knocking him out.
VLC86 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 hours ago, matty98 said: We've had 1 bad transfer window in the past 3 years, people need to stop overreacting. we have had three in a row. Title winning season we got lucky that's Vardy didn't get injured as we failed to get a back up and I really don't need to say anything about the summer and January do I.
matty98 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 5 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: we have had three in a row. Title winning season we got lucky that's Vardy didn't get injured as we failed to get a back up and I really don't need to say anything about the summer and January do I. January is a difficult window for everyone yet we've made 1 good signing in each which is more than a lot of clubs can say.
VLC86 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, matty98 said: January is a difficult window for everyone yet we've made 1 good signing in each which is more than a lot of clubs can say. But we appeared to need more at the time. We played a barely fit drinky and had to resort to an outcast of a CB last time. If you need 4 but sign 1 gem i wouldn't say it's a success. Oh, and we loaned a 4th choice CB from a team who had loaned him themselves.
mozartfox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 4 hours ago, matty98 said: We've had 1 bad transfer window in the past 3 years, people need to stop overreacting. Unfortunately the bad one last Summer has dragged us back from a position that we are unlikely ever to find ourselves in again. That is probably the reason there is a lot of discontent and frustration right now. Hopefully, we can right some of those wrongs in the next 6 weeks or so. If not, then some heads need to roll.
matty98 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: But we appeared to need more at the time. We played a barely fit drinky and had to resort to an outcast of a CB last time. If you need 4 but sign 1 gem i wouldn't say it's a success. Oh, and we loaned a 4th choice CB from a team who had loaned him themselves. Results don't lie. We didn't need more than what we got in both cases. If we did need more we wouldn't have won the league last year and we'd be relegated now.
Countryfox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 2 hours ago, Ted Maul said: If it's true that there is a rift between Mahrez and Vardy, and it's a choice of one or the other, then there's only one winner in my eyes. Started ages ago and involved their wives (so I heard) and then they both got involved ... and then CR sided with RM and that p1ssed off a few players ... allegedly ...
VLC86 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 32 minutes ago, matty98 said: Results don't lie. We didn't need more than what we got in both cases. If we did need more we wouldn't have won the league last year and we'd be relegated now. That's true, Would you honestly say they were succesful windows then?
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 35 minutes ago, mozartfox said: Unfortunately the bad one last Summer has dragged us back from a position that we are unlikely ever to find ourselves in again. That is probably the reason there is a lot of discontent and frustration right now. Hopefully, we can right some of those wrongs in the next 6 weeks or so. If not, then some heads need to roll. We couldn't even attract Keane or Deeney, I think people overplay the situation we were in and the pull we had.
AyewJoking Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 IF no one offers what we want for mahrez.... is it likely he'll go out on loan with the other club paying his wages? i dont see him playing for us again
Uncle Monty Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 31 minutes ago, Countryfox said: Started ages ago and involved their wives (so I heard) and then they both got involved ... and then CR sided with RM and that p1ssed off a few players ... allegedly ... Is this common knowledge? The first I've heard of it.
mozartfox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 5 minutes ago, Babylon said: We couldn't even attract Keane or Deeney, I think people overplay the situation we were in and the pull we had. You could be correct. But our stock was higher then than it is now. So attracting players may be even more difficult this summer. Time will tell.
matty98 Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 15 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: That's true, Would you honestly say they were succesful windows then? Yes, any window where you improve your squad overall is a successful window in my eyes.
Mickyblueeyes Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 This needs to be sorted one way or the other. He is clearly second or third choice for Arsenal or the bid, the deal would've been done. I have no doubt the contract has been offered to him in principal. It's called a contingency plan from Arsenal's point of view. Riyad, sort your head out and have a season of your life. Take Vardy out for some food, bury whatever issues you are both having and leave next summer for your true worth.
HankMarvin Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Arsenal are reportedly preparing to launch a £70million swoop for Sporting CP duo Gelson Martins and William Carvalho. According to Portuguese daily A Bola , Arsene Wenger is ready to splash the cash on winger Martins, 22, and defensive midfielder Carvalho, 25, as the Londoners face up to at least a season without Champions League football. so is it Mahrez they want? yes but probably for 25 30 million
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