Shakespeare in talks to extend contract

[Kitchandro]

10 hours ago, Babylon said:

We were also playing "stay in the game" football when we won the title. I don't see what Pearson has to do with it. It's been our style for a long time.

Wrong

[Babylon]

18 minutes ago, Kitchandro said:

Wrong

Because not having the ball, doing loads of defending all game long is sooooo different. Our style of attack might have become more / entirely focused on direct counters. But our game plan way to keep it tight and try and nick one. Or are you actually attempting to suggest our style of play wasn't focused on defend first attack later.

 

How we played at Arsenal was almost no different to how we played against spurs when we won 1-0. Difference being then didn't fluke a deflection and we scored a very rare venture up field. 

[sylofox]

26 minutes ago, Swan Lesta said:

Calm down mate.

what bit  

[NotTheMarketLeader]

10 hours ago, smudger63 said:

In the great escape season under Pearson, we were certainly not playing the quick counter attack football, that won us so many games last season, we were just trying to survive in games, we rarely looked a threat in games until it was shit or bust time, and he changed the system and had to try and win games.

Much like the game at Arsenal and at Man City until we were 2-0 down this season.

What Pearson has to do with it, is that much of Shakespeares time as an assistant manager, has been under the guidance of Pearson, and my concern is that he was starting to turn to the same negative tactics that he had been a part of, while working with Pearson, that had seen us rock bottom of the league for three quarters of a season.

 

Correct in its entirety.

[NotTheMarketLeader]

47 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Because not having the ball, doing loads of defending all game long is sooooo different. Our style of attack might have become more / entirely focused on direct counters. But our game plan way to keep it tight and try and nick one. Or are you actually attempting to suggest our style of play wasn't focused on defend first attack later.

 

How we played at Arsenal was almost no different to how we played against spurs when we won 1-0. Difference being then didn't fluke a deflection and we scored a very rare venture up field. 

That Spurs game I don't think was generally representative of how the season was for us in this regard.

 

I think the point being made by Smudger is that in the title winning season we were always a threat in games in the round, and while were invariably surrendering the lions share of possession we were in control of games and creating chances.

 

We were looking to win games when we did have the ball. When we had the ball we were proactive.

 

That was not the case for 70% of the Great Escape season.

 

My understanding is Shakes had a very big part to play in games tactically with Pearson at the helm, and albeit a small sample of games that are being highlighted there are parallels to be drawn with those previous negative displays and those in the last 10 games.

 

[fuchsntf]

12 hours ago, GaelicFox said:

Klopp has no silverware in England 

 

wagner does  

 

klopp is nothing special 

 

 

My money is on Klopp.

Cos hes brilliant....cos hes   BVB     !!!

 

Cos he is better than his critics....who again are just up for another hate campaign...

I reckon he confuses a few cos he smiles, and answers the obvious simply.He doesnt make up

Stories .....He has no blame bandwagon.

[Babylon]

7 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

That Spurs game I don't think was generally representative of how the season was for us in this regard.

And I wouldn't say the Arsenal game was representative of what we saw under Shakespeare. It's also a ridiculously small sample to be trumping up right now.

 

7 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

I think the point being made by Smudger is that in the title winning season we were always a threat in games in the round, and while were invariably surrendering the lions share of possession we were in control of games and creating chances.

 

There was a large number of games where we scraped through being very defensive. Especially at the end of the season where we needed to scramble through any way we could. Lets not forget we weren't safe and were trying to do exactly the same at the end of this season.

 

 

 

[foxfanazer]

This needs sorting now. Teams already getting business done and we can't decide who's going to be in charge. I know someone will reply to this with 'we're still in may' but it was the lack of organisation last pre season that saw us start so badly

[NotTheMarketLeader]

13 minutes ago, Babylon said:

And I wouldn't say the Arsenal game was representative of what we saw under Shakespeare. It's also a ridiculously small sample to be trumping up right now.

 

 

There was a large number of games where we scraped through being very defensive. Especially at the end of the season where we needed to scramble through any way we could. Lets not forget we weren't safe and were trying to do exactly the same at the end of this season.

 

 

 

I've said it's a small sample, and it will all come out in the wash no doubt.

 

Do you mean the end of last season we were being very defensive?

 

If so that's not memory of it. We were being given more of the ball, and defences were now deep, not giving us the space in behind. We were finding it difficult to break teams down - the string of 1 nils is evidence - but I don't think we were aiming to be defensive, it was more other teams setting up to nullify our greatest threats once the penny had dropped that we were not a 'flash in the pan'.

[Babylon]

14 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said:

I've said it's a small sample, and it will all come out in the wash no doubt.

 

Do you mean the end of last season we were being very defensive?

 

If so that's not memory of it. We were being given more of the ball, and defences were now deep, not giving us the space in behind. We were finding it difficult to break teams down - the string of 1 nils is evidence - but I don't think we were aiming to be defensive, it was more other teams setting up to nullify our greatest threats once the penny had dropped that we were not a 'flash in the pan'.

Some of that was to do with the other teams adapting. But as I said at the time it was clear to me we were progressively getting more and more defensive under Ranieri as time ticked on. We started off quite gung-ho bringing in our "shit or bust" attitude from the great escape, but his changes were slowing strangling the creativity out of us and that showed up even more this season. Out of all our games at Arsenal, our best performance in terms of attacking was probably under Pearson there.

 

He's worked under two defensively minded managers, bringing up Pearson for me is just people bringing there prejudice about him back into it. We were at our best when we still had a mix of the freedom the players got from Pearson from Christmas onwards, mixed with the better defensive shape of Ranieri. Hopefully he gets that mix right, he tried to be positive against Spurs and got lambasted. I think it's a good sign he'd rather try and get back into a game that just sit on a 3-1 defeat.

[GaelicFox]

2 hours ago, sylofox said:

To answer your question I would still think he was a tw@.

 

But more importantly what shite are you on?

harsh sylo

[GaelicFox]

53 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

My money is on Klopp.

Cos hes brilliant....cos hes   BVB     !!!

 

Cos he is better than his critics....who again are just up for another hate campaign...

I reckon he confuses a few cos he smiles, and answers the obvious simply.He doesnt make up

Stories .....He has no blame bandwagon.

What is BVB ? i have no interest in german football 

 

it's a dire product to be honest tried to watch a few times and just bored me 

 

klopp is a show pony , acting the cool maggot , winning stuff in Germany means nothing now 

 

England  is where the good and the great are separated

 

right now Klopp is in the good category nothing special   

 

 

[sylofox]

8 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

harsh sylo

Never have liked him and his I didn't see it. But his eye sight is fine when someone offends against them.

 

Just like Fergie never gave the opposition any credit.

[fuchsntf]

10 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

What is BVB ? i have no interest in german football 

 

it's a dire product to be honest tried to watch a few times and just bored me 

 

klopp is a show pony , acting the cool maggot , winning stuff in Germany means nothing now 

 

England  is where the good and the great are separated

 

right now Klopp is in the good category nothing special   

 

 

Ah I see,!!!    It seems we have another one here...who believes in the Emproers clothes....

 

Next to by birth town Leicester, my one and only true team Of heart and soul, since a young age 6-7yrs

57yrs approx.  

 The BVB, Gelbe Wand....BBoooorrrrruuuuusssiaaaa

have been my 2nd team.  You sir have thrown down the guantlet, With whimsical

and incompetent joice of words  demeaned my honour and  my pride!!!

Sir !!!   I Poop wind in your face,and doodle funny faces of all your family...

I demand the right of retrbution and right to defend my wounded pride...

 

We will meet at Dawn, Hook von Holland, by the dangling seaweed (on the left, your right).

Weapons..of choice either Haddock or cod n chips, faced with curry and pommes.

Pickled egg or onion has second choice.  Rinced down with a Newcastle Brown, or Veltins.

Once I get out of hospital, and dash down the motorway on my Walking frame, I sir will have my revenge....

 

 

[GaelicFox]

18 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Ah I see,!!!    It seems we have another one here...who believes in the Emproers clothes....

 

Next to by birth town Leicester, my one and only true team Of heart and soul, since a young age 6-7yrs

57yrs approx.  

 The BVB, Gelbe Wand....BBoooorrrrruuuuusssiaaaa

have been my 2nd team.  You sir have thrown down the guantlet, With whimsical

and incompetent joice of words  demeaned my honour and  my pride!!!

Sir !!!   I Poop wind in your face,and doodle funny faces of all your family...

I demand the right of retrbution and right to defend my wounded pride...

 

We will meet at Dawn, Hook von Holland, by the dangling seaweed (on the left, your right).

Weapons..of choice either Haddock or cod n chips, faced with curry and pommes.

Pickled egg or onion has second choice.  Rinced down with a Newcastle Brown, or Veltins.

Once I get out of hospital, and dash down the motorway on my Walking frame, I sir will have my revenge....

 

 

Best post I have ever read directed at me  

 

BVB (who ever they are are) are now my Kraut Team 

 

brilliant post 

 

edit :  Dortmund ohh ok , cool fan group 

 

 

[steveherbe]

14 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Ah I see,!!!    It seems we have another one here...who believes in the Emproers clothes....

 

Next to by birth town Leicester, my one and only true team Of heart and soul, since a young age 6-7yrs

57yrs approx.  

 The BVB, Gelbe Wand....BBoooorrrrruuuuusssiaaaa

have been my 2nd team.  You sir have thrown down the guantlet, With whimsical

and incompetent joice of words  demeaned my honour and  my pride!!!

Sir !!!   I Poop wind in your face,and doodle funny faces of all your family...

I demand the right of retrbution and right to defend my wounded pride...

 

We will meet at Dawn, Hook von Holland, by the dangling seaweed (on the left, your right).

Weapons..of choice either Haddock or cod n chips, faced with curry and pommes.

Pickled egg or onion has second choice.  Rinced down with a Newcastle Brown, or Veltins.

Once I get out of hospital, and dash down the motorway on my Walking frame, I sir will have my revenge....

 

 

BVB my arse, its the one and only Schalke for me - dont let the Bochum lads know though.

[GaelicFox]

@fuchsntf

 

Tuchel to Leicester ??? 

 

Be a good appointment ???

 

 

[mozartfox]

12 hours ago, ozleicester said:

FFS isnt this sorted yet?

 

 

Relax - Rudders is on the case.. Expect an announcement in August.

[Bluetintedspecs]

I can see 100 pages in the making

[fuchsntf]

9 minutes ago, GaelicFox said:

@fuchsntf

 

Tuchel to Leicester ??? 

 

Be a good appointment ???

 

 

No,...poor reputation for upsetting dressingroom at wrong times, likes to have a dig at his stars....often without reason.

[Steven]

13 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said:

I can see 100 pages in the making

Quote

Look at me, now look at your man, now back to me. I'm on a horse....

 

[Foxxed]

14 hours ago, smudger63 said:

In the great escape season under Pearson, we were certainly not playing the quick counter attack football, that won us so many games last season, we were just trying to survive in games, we rarely looked a threat in games until it was shit or bust time, and he changed the system and had to try and win games.

Much like the game at Arsenal and at Man City until we were 2-0 down this season.

What Pearson has to do with it, is that much of Shakespeares time as an assistant manager, has been under the guidance of Pearson, and my concern is that he was starting to turn to the same negative tactics that he had been a part of, while working with Pearson, that had seen us rock bottom of the league for three quarters of a season.

 

Great post. I really wish we'd had more games which to test out the theory. If he has reverted to Pearson's 2014-2015 pre-great escape tactics there's no reason to think he'll continue down that vein. But it's a risk.

[ozleicester]

29 minutes ago, mozartfox said:

Relax - Rudders is on the case.. Expect an announcement in August.

Ahh thats better

 

I can expect that Shakey will be appointed on a month to month rolling contract with  buyout clause of a Tim Tam and a packet of Polo's then?

[GaelicFox]

28 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

No,...poor reputation for upsetting dressingroom at wrong times, likes to have a dig at his stars....often without reason.

But will he allow chicken burgers on the menu ? 

 

 

[hejammy]

6 hours ago, st albans fox said:

FT, the gift that keeps on giving .......,

 

we are LCFC - wenger has turned down every top job in European football to stay at Arsenal. I expect he will be keen to make the KP his curtain call in management ...............

and that is why i started with "just throwing it out there" and not "top secret news" and also remind me what odds we had of winning the league again?

 

6 hours ago, sylofox said:

To answer your question I would still think he was a tw@.

 

But more importantly what shite are you on?

Bit harsh to think that about him but also look above...