Matt Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 8 minutes ago, Emilio Lestavez said: Whatever changes. Nothing changes #Fearless #etc. Loving that slogan. This time last year I did not understand it at all, a year on I've started using it, politics, religion, terrorism, LCFC themself, general conversation, it's brilliant. For once Leicester were ahead of themselves in an ironic way!
Thracian Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 8 hours ago, Kitchandro said: I didn't say it was going to happen, but you're deluded if you think attitude doesn't make a difference. Do you think we won the league by accepting we were midtable fodder at best and trying to pick up draws rather than wins? In sport you have to instil a belief in yourself that you can beat anyone or you will never achieve anything of note. Our problem for the last year is we're acting like winning the league was lucky, like we didn't earn it ourselves. So we've been playing to draw half the time, not believing we can win. Before you know it we've conceded and heads drop. The point is, a lack of ambition is never excusable just because the odds are stacked against you. I'm not going to just put up with us playing shit, negative football just because we're not one of the biggest clubs in the country. That's what your Allardyce's and Pulis' want you to do. We're not talking about establishing ourselves in the Champions League for years to come anyway. We're talking about making a fist of getting there because a year ago we'd just become champions of England (easily) and to fall as far as we did in that space of time was embarrassing and far below the standards we had already set for ourselves. There doesn't have to be 2 extremes - as much as people want to push the 'fairytale' angle, it doesn't add up that our finishing positions would be so vastly different between 2 seasons. There's no reason we should be happy for the club to undo everything it had done to get us to that level so quickly. There was, and is no reason for us to drop like a stone and take our 'normal' place back amongst the nobodies. We're an above average side if managed properly. The Champions League should have been our ambition last season because we'd just won the league by 10 points. This was not hugely unrealistic even in hindsight - we had a terrible 6 months where we flirted with relegation and yet we still might have finished in the top 8 with 2 games to go. If we'd pulled our finger out and performed like we know we can on a more regular basis then I doubt we'd have been miles away. Liverpool are not a great side. Forget about the size of the club - this team was and is capable of much better than the season we've just had, with the right manager. Not for the next 50 years, in the short term. Coming up short trying to qualify for Europe is no crime. But aiming too low is one of the biggest crimes in sport. I can't stand a lack of ambition in football and this season stank of it from the first whistle to the last. That's rhetoric, not solid reasoning. By our owners admission we got ahead of ourselves in winning the Premiership and clearly lost our way somewhat when it happened as many do when they find themselves in new and unexpected territory with no SATNAV to offer a solution. One new path we trod was the road through the Champions League stages which many a club has warned is a draining, demanding experience even for clubs that are used to it, and one that needs to be adapted too. Still we proudly emerged as the longest surviving UK club in this year's competition - an incredible achievement given the thinness of our squad and still we finished more of less mid-table in the Premiership despite having to deal with that thin squad I mentioned being decimated. That's not excuse-making or a lack of ambition, that's admitting we weren't fully equipped for a job that came early and that we understandably became victims of our inexperience, for all that it was frustrating, yet still finished the season with much to be proud of in the end, just as we did in The Great Escape. In theory this season's preparation should be much better given the benefit of experience and the lack of Champions League football but I don't expect it to be any less demanding because I really do believe we should compete properly in the cup competitions as well as The Premiership instead of behaving like a Mickey Mouse club and shaming ourselves as we did at Millwall, and Hull before that. You talk about "the right manager" which is all very easy and about as vague as a Corbyn speech. But Ranieri wasn't the sum total of what saw us through to the title. Many others contributed massively and many of those contributors are still around and I don't think they, or our owners can be accused of lacking ambition given what's been achieved at this club on the playing field and commercially these last few years and the position we now enjoy in the wealth ratings of European clubs. "Emerging football club suffers momentary hiccup...." - big deal!. No-one lasts long in football with making mistakes and suffering disappointments. And we're not likely to be any different considering we're scaling the highest peaks we've ever trodden.
Adster Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 Surely if he was getting the job it'd of been announced by now?
fuchsntf Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 22 minutes ago, Adster said: Surely if he was getting the job it'd of been announced by now? What about, looking at it from another angle....If he wasnt getting the job, it would be announced by now..
whitwickfox Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 If they announced he wasn't getting the job how many other players do you suppose would jump ship think about it
Guest Papasmurf Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 16 minutes ago, whitwickfox said: If they announced he wasn't getting the job how many other players do you suppose would jump ship think about it None of them.
Clever Fox Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 If any more Jump Ship then I do think we should bring in a new Manager. The only reason for giving it to Shakey is that he knows the Club and Players, But if we lose our best players then maybe a fresh approach is needed. New Manager new Players and new Methods and Tactics.
GaelicFox Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 7 hours ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Why have you ditched Graham for Liam? My sex change went well voice is deeper now also ... I have skills ... special skills ............
Foxxed Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 4 hours ago, fuchsntf said: What about, looking at it from another angle....If he wasnt getting the job, it would be announced by now.. If he wasn't getting the job, it wouldn't be announced by now. If he wasn't not getting the job, it wouldn't not be not announced by now. #DontNotNotAnnounceShakey
Foxxed Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 Top's delaying it to such an extent that by the time it is announced we'll be happy for whatever we get. Do you want to play fast counter attacking football pressing high with a great team spirit and innovative tactics while utiliising the youth players and re-igniting the golden days of player recruitment, Churchill?
Sionnach gorm Posted 1 June 2017 Posted 1 June 2017 I'm with most on this one. Announce someone, anyone. There is business to be done...now!
Guy Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 6 hours ago, Thracian said: That's rhetoric, not solid reasoning. By our owners admission we got ahead of ourselves in winning the Premiership and clearly lost our way somewhat when it happened as many do when they find themselves in new and unexpected territory with no SATNAV to offer a solution. One new path we trod was the road through the Champions League stages which many a club has warned is a draining, demanding experience even for clubs that are used to it, and one that needs to be adapted too. Still we proudly emerged as the longest surviving UK club in this year's competition - an incredible achievement given the thinness of our squad and still we finished more of less mid-table in the Premiership despite having to deal with that thin squad I mentioned being decimated. That's not excuse-making or a lack of ambition, that's admitting we weren't fully equipped for a job that came early and that we understandably became victims of our inexperience, for all that it was frustrating, yet still finished the season with much to be proud of in the end, just as we did in The Great Escape. In theory this season's preparation should be much better given the benefit of experience and the lack of Champions League football but I don't expect it to be any less demanding because I really do believe we should compete properly in the cup competitions as well as The Premiership instead of behaving like a Mickey Mouse club and shaming ourselves as we did at Millwall, and Hull before that. You talk about "the right manager" which is all very easy and about as vague as a Corbyn speech. But Ranieri wasn't the sum total of what saw us through to the title. Many others contributed massively and many of those contributors are still around and I don't think they, or our owners can be accused of lacking ambition given what's been achieved at this club on the playing field and commercially these last few years and the position we now enjoy in the wealth ratings of European clubs. "Emerging football club suffers momentary hiccup...." - big deal!. No-one lasts long in football with making mistakes and suffering disappointments. And we're not likely to be any different considering we're scaling the highest peaks we've ever trodden. Excellent post and don't forget we were still in League One less than nine short years ago after the four managers in one season debacle in 2007-08!! The rise from relegation uncertainties in 2008 to Premier League Champions in 2016 is theoretically the most phenomenal since Ipswich's in the early 60s I believe : but times are so much harder nowadays in the Prem as opposed to the old 'first division' so I still think ours was the greatest ever rise of all time! The Great Escape and title winning season were just two epic seasons back to back and will probably never be bettered again now in our lifetimes , end of! A good run in the Prem. will still be very welcome though
mozartfox Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 The delay is most likely because Turdkin is checking 'Go compare' first.
EnglishOxide Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 I wonder whether the likes of Kasper and Drinkwaters future is linked to Shakespeare. Perhaps they have indicated they will leave if he isn't given the job. It's unlikely but it would explain why this is more complex and drawn out than it should be.
Wrighty22 Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 Typical Leicester. If this is a sign of how all our business will be done this summer it's going to be unbearable.
GaelicFox Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 I bet they are all on holiday ... once back the pictures and press conference will be done
Thracian Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 10 hours ago, Clever Fox said: If any more Jump Ship then I do think we should bring in a new Manager. The only reason for giving it to Shakey is that he knows the Club and Players, But if we lose our best players then maybe a fresh approach is needed. New Manager new Players and new Methods and Tactics. We need positive continuity not the risk-laden turmoil of a massive upheaval.
st albans fox Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 It's only us that don't know. All the agents out there who need to know will have been told. It shouldnt affect our transfer business A few on here have been told it's just some legals - that's a way of saying that it's done but we don't want to make it official just yet (for whatever reason - they will have one) frustrating i know but v unlikely to be material
rico Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 Shakey with Chris Powell as assistant to be announced next week,you heard it here 1st
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 10 hours ago, GaelicFox said: My sex change went well voice is deeper now also ... I have skills ... special skills ............ My intuition was correct then.
NotTheMarketLeader Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 14 hours ago, Thracian said: That's rhetoric, not solid reasoning. By our owners admission we got ahead of ourselves in winning the Premiership and clearly lost our way somewhat when it happened as many do when they find themselves in new and unexpected territory with no SATNAV to offer a solution. One new path we trod was the road through the Champions League stages which many a club has warned is a draining, demanding experience even for clubs that are used to it, and one that needs to be adapted too. Still we proudly emerged as the longest surviving UK club in this year's competition - an incredible achievement given the thinness of our squad and still we finished more of less mid-table in the Premiership despite having to deal with that thin squad I mentioned being decimated. That's not excuse-making or a lack of ambition, that's admitting we weren't fully equipped for a job that came early and that we understandably became victims of our inexperience, for all that it was frustrating, yet still finished the season with much to be proud of in the end, just as we did in The Great Escape. In theory this season's preparation should be much better given the benefit of experience and the lack of Champions League football but I don't expect it to be any less demanding because I really do believe we should compete properly in the cup competitions as well as The Premiership instead of behaving like a Mickey Mouse club and shaming ourselves as we did at Millwall, and Hull before that. You talk about "the right manager" which is all very easy and about as vague as a Corbyn speech. But Ranieri wasn't the sum total of what saw us through to the title. Many others contributed massively and many of those contributors are still around and I don't think they, or our owners can be accused of lacking ambition given what's been achieved at this club on the playing field and commercially these last few years and the position we now enjoy in the wealth ratings of European clubs. "Emerging football club suffers momentary hiccup...." - big deal!. No-one lasts long in football with making mistakes and suffering disappointments. And we're not likely to be any different considering we're scaling the highest peaks we've ever trodden. Rhetoric! As much as I agree with some of your posts, that is 'the pot calling the kettle black'.
Thracian Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 10 minutes ago, NotTheMarketLeader said: Rhetoric! As much as I agree with some of your posts, that is 'the pot calling the kettle black'. Haha - I'd be the last to deny being rhetorical at times.
Guest Papasmurf Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 2 hours ago, Wrighty22 said: Typical Leicester. If this is a sign of how all our business will be done this summer it's going to be unbearable. Typical foxes talk. If this is a sign of how all our threads will be this summer it's going to be unbearable.
norwichfox Posted 2 June 2017 Posted 2 June 2017 3 hours ago, rico said: Shakey with Chris Powell as assistant to be announced next week,you heard it here 1st Tuesday or Wednesday?
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