Shakespeare in talks to extend contract

[Kitchandro]

17 minutes ago, Babylon said:

The targets are already there, the recruitment team take care of that whether it's Shakespeare or someone else.

 

As for the champions league. Not, going, to, happen. 

Not with that attitude.

[sylofox]

4 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

Genuine question sylofox. How long have you been ITK? I haven't been aware of you posting ITK info before but maybe I've missed it in the past.

 

BTW I hope you are right about Shakey being appointed and that the announcement is imminent.

I'm not claiming to be itk I just from time to time get info. Think I was one of the first to post Shakey had got it till the end of the season. Then depending on results be given it long term.

[FoxinNotts]

14 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

Where was the Irishman ?

True story. 

 

It was was at the roof top bar of the Mondrian hotel, near Blackfriars. I actually think they were with an Irishman ?

[1972 Fox]

8 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I'm not claiming to be itk I just from time to time get info. Think I was one of the first to post Shakey had got it till the end of the season. Then depending on results be given it long term.

Thanks. Just hope the appointment can be made asap so that we can have some stability and start preparing properly for next season.

[sylofox]

10 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

Thanks. Just hope the appointment can be made asap so that we can have some stability and start preparing properly for next season.

Preparation for next season so I'm told is not being affected atm. Playing staff back room staff on hols. Transfer targets sorted but I have no names. But think most media links atm are bollox. If a first choice target was getting interest im sure we would bid. 

 

So a few days won't hurt. It's not like 2yrs ago and players back in training.

[Samilktray]

How is it taking us this long to announce our assistant manager as our manager  shambles 

[MPH]

31 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

How is it taking us this long to announce our assistant manager as our manager  shambles 

 

 

Someone mentioned it was a hold up with the legal team.

 

my GUESS is that it's to do with when the new season 'starts' -June 1st maybe? If it's  before then, maybe his new wage has to come from last years budget and after June 1st then next seasons budget? Just thinking FFP rules...

[1972 Fox]

1 hour ago, MPH said:

 

 

Someone mentioned it was a hold up with the legal team.

 

my GUESS is that it's to do with when the new season 'starts' -June 1st maybe? If it's  before then, maybe his new wage has to come from last years budget and after June 1st then next seasons budget? Just thinking FFP rules...

Didn't know that Rudkin was also in charge of the legal team! 

[fuchsntf]

1 hour ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

Didn't know that Rudkin was also in charge of the legal team! 

Tea lady, starting to worry...

[Babylon]

9 hours ago, Kitchandro said:

Not with that attitude.

You're as delduded as them if you think we're just going to establish ourselves as a champions league side.

 

It has got nothing to do with attitude, it's a simple fact that long term success will only come on the back of huge investment. If Arsenal and United can't get in there having spent goodness knows how much how can you expect us to.

 

Teams will have one offs, just as we did. But people seem to think it's going to happen regularly. It isn't.

[Finnegan]

9 minutes ago, Babylon said:

You're as delduded as them if you think we're just going to establish ourselves as a champions league side.

 

It has got nothing to do with attitude, it's a simple fact that long term success will only come on the back of huge investment. If Arsenal and United can't get in there having spent goodness knows how much how can you expect us to.

 

Teams will have one offs, just as we did. But people seem to think it's going to happen regularly. It isn't.

 

I agree and I don't.

 

People do have slightly high expectations but equally, Arsenal and United aren't two clubs whose spending policy anyone should try and imitate.

 

They've signed some absolute bollocks, have terribly imbalanced squads and their managers seem to have absolutely no handle on building squad cohesion.

 

Tottenham have spent a reasonable amount of money to be where they are but it's not like Levy is "pumping billions" in or whatever you said earlier. He's a tight fisted bastard that hates parting with his cash.

 

He's gotten the club where it is by spending shrewdly and hiring good, up and coming managers and not just big names or sticking with the same guy blindly for twenty seasons.

[GaelicFox]

9 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

True story. 

 

It was was at the roof top bar of the Mondrian hotel, near Blackfriars. I actually think they were with an Irishman ?

Kennedy is the Irish man with them , he looks after sir Alex legal stuff in london 

[GaelicFox]

All this stuff about legals holding it up is pure crap

 

i suspect this deal is NOT done 

 

but I suspect shaky is only man in frame 

 

no leaks to media suggests it's still in negotiations , but 100% not finalised

 

no other manager is being looked at , at this stage 

 

 

[Babylon]

9 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

I agree and I don't.

 

People do have slightly high expectations but equally, Arsenal and United aren't two clubs whose spending policy anyone should try and imitate.

 

They've signed some absolute bollocks, have terribly imbalanced squads and their managers seem to have absolutely no handle on building squad cohesion.

 

Tottenham have spent a reasonable amount of money to be where they are but it's not like Levy is "pumping billions" in or whatever you said earlier. He's a tight fisted bastard that hates parting with his cash.

 

He's gotten the club where it is by spending shrewdly and hiring good, up and coming managers and not just big names or sticking with the same guy blindly for twenty seasons.

But Spurs are a bigger club, regularly turning over loads more money and spending about twice what we were on wages (last accounts). They've had a vastly higher starting point than us.

 

Where Spurs are now is the end product of years of investing good money on players, yes they've bought well and got a good manager, but let's not ignore that. What they do well also is making money back on people that aren't working out.

 

It also won't last, they will lose their best players and manager soon enough unless they pay the money the other teams will. Walker wouldn't want to go to City otherwise.

[st albans fox]

I was told that Kane's new deal is around 110k per week but added to that is a further 40k appearance money. Hence he is happy to stay on around 150k and not look to move.  if other first choice players are on similar deals then they may not lose as many as you think. 

[Ric Flair]

The only way we become a regular Champions League club is to have an unbelievable recruitment model and to make our Academy one of the best. Sadly, both of the above we're an absolute disgrace at the minute. I know we re-wrote history in 2015-16 and it was no fluke but you've got to be progressive year on year to stay up there with the very best and we're having a laugh right now.

 

I worry this success came too easily for our owners and although they are fiercely ambitious I'm not sure they truly understand just what we achieved and how extraordinary and ridiculous it was. We need to completely overhaul our off the field structure. We need the very best in Academy development and a sporting director as good as Monchi who was at Sevilla. Obviously a class manager as well but the foundations right now are dog shit. We've a rags to riches squad who have a unique bond and playing style but that's on thin ice after the breakup of certain aspects of it. I'm worried.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, GaelicFox said:

All this stuff about legals holding it up is pure crap

 

i suspect this deal is NOT done 

 

but I suspect shaky is only man in frame 

 

no leaks to media suggests it's still in negotiations , but 100% not finalised

 

no other manager is being looked at , at this stage 

 

 

The blokes probably on holiday whilst his agent sorts out the finer details.

[Guest Chocolate Teapot]

1 hour ago, GaelicFox said:

All this stuff about legals holding it up is pure crap

 

i suspect this deal is NOT done 

 

but I suspect shaky is only man in frame 

 

no leaks to media suggests it's still in negotiations , but 100% not finalised

 

no other manager is being looked at , at this stage 

 

 

Took them 9 months to get his last contract sorted, so expect it'll take bloody ages again. No idea why it seems to take them so long.

 

It's agreed, not sure why legal have got involved again.

[lgfualol]

Maybe we're waiting for Roy Hodgson to get back from his holidays before we announce it?

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

The only way we become a regular Champions League club is to have an unbelievable recruitment model and to make our Academy one of the best. Sadly, both of the above we're an absolute disgrace at the minute. I know we re-wrote history in 2015-16 and it was no fluke but you've got to be progressive year on year to stay up there with the very best and we're having a laugh right now.

 

I worry this success came too easily for our owners and although they are fiercely ambitious I'm not sure they truly understand just what we achieved and how extraordinary and ridiculous it was. We need to completely overhaul our off the field structure. We need the very best in Academy development and a sporting director as good as Monchi who was at Sevilla. Obviously a class manager as well but the foundations right now are dog shit. We've a rags to riches squad who have a unique bond and playing style but that's on thin ice after the breakup of certain aspects of it. I'm worried.

Sums up my feelings

[KFS]

I love Shakey and he clearly understands the English game. He'd get us to mid table no worries. My concern is that he's not a big enough name to attract the sort of targets we need and our recent success is going to fall away, when really it was a chuffing great opportunity to build on breaking the glass ceiling.

 

'Sustainable' is great, but Stoke, WBA, Newcastle, Swansea, Villa levels can always go pear shaped very quickly. It's a precarious situation to be in. We should have aimed for Everton as the club to outspend/ improve on/ take league position. Don't even question that we wouldn't have been able to do that last season if Claudio hadn't have gone batshit and the signings were better quality, because it was entirely plausible.

 

If Shakey is appointed, fine. I know what the owners are after then and can settle into a few scalps of the big clubs a season and beating the dross at the bottom. That suits me given where we've come from in the last 10 years.

 

HOWEVER, if we've got any ambition we'd be on the phone to Tuchel this week, building a back room/ club infrastructure in the off season and looking at stadium expansion ASAP.

 

Call me deluded but I've tasted the big time and I want my club to be up there challenging. For one year in 15/16 the rest of the world was as proud of my club as I am, and that's a real poison chalice to drink from.

 

 

[TheUltimateWinner]

Remember when it took a whole season to sort out Niges contract when we got promoted to the prem  

 

I also think Nugent was actually out of contract for us during pre season of our first season back in the prem  

[bald reynard]

33 minutes ago, KFS said:

I love Shakey and he clearly understands the English game. He'd get us to mid table no worries. My concern is that he's not a big enough name to attract the sort of targets we need and our recent success is going to fall away, when really it was a chuffing great opportunity to build on breaking the glass ceiling.

 

'Sustainable' is great, but Stoke, WBA, Newcastle, Swansea, Villa levels can always go pear shaped very quickly. It's a precarious situation to be in. We should have aimed for Everton as the club to outspend/ improve on/ take league position. Don't even question that we wouldn't have been able to do that last season if Claudio hadn't have gone batshit and the signings were better quality, because it was entirely plausible.

 

If Shakey is appointed, fine. I know what the owners are after then and can settle into a few scalps of the big clubs a season and beating the dross at the bottom. That suits me given where we've come from in the last 10 years.

 

HOWEVER, if we've got any ambition we'd be on the phone to Tuchel this week, building a back room/ club infrastructure in the off season and looking at stadium expansion ASAP.

 

Call me deluded but I've tasted the big time and I want my club to be up there challenging. For one year in 15/16 the rest of the world was as proud of my club as I am, and that's a real poison chalice to drink from.

 

 

Appointing Shakey might not help in attracting 'big name' targets from Europe, but as sure as eggs is eggs, having him as Manager is far more likely to help in keeping the 'big names' we've already got (with the obvious exception of Mahrez, who clearly has made up his mind to leave, no matter who we have as Manager).  I would say that the likes of Schmeichel and Vardy are far more likely to stay if he's there, than some new guy who they don't know or trust.  Similarly, Shakespeare won't have to take weeks / months summing up the strengths and weaknesses of the squad, which anyone new will need to do. He will know if we need to keep James, Lawrence, Kapustka, Ulloa, Slimani, Musa etc and what areas need strengthening. 

[NotTheMarketLeader]

2 hours ago, Finnegan said:

 

I agree and I don't.

 

People do have slightly high expectations but equally, Arsenal and United aren't two clubs whose spending policy anyone should try and imitate.

 

They've signed some absolute bollocks, have terribly imbalanced squads and their managers seem to have absolutely no handle on building squad cohesion.

 

Tottenham have spent a reasonable amount of money to be where they are but it's not like Levy is "pumping billions" in or whatever you said earlier. He's a tight fisted bastard that hates parting with his cash.

 

He's gotten the club where it is by spending shrewdly and hiring good, up and coming managers and not just big names or sticking with the same guy blindly for twenty seasons.

Correct.

 

Another CL foray can be achieved, but it's certainly will not happen without money being spent in bundles and spent very wisely.

 

Being confident and positive in style of play is the most important aspect for us I believe, and nobody can say it can't happen given recent seasons.

 

 

[Bablemikey]

Who's to say that an agreement between the owners and Shakespear has not already been made and it's just down to the negotiators to arrive at a mutually acceptable agreement. Meanwhile, folks are having a well earned break. There is no real reason why potential recruits to the playing staff could not be told that Shakespear will be the manager if they are that nervous about knowing and its a showstopper.

 

No official statement doesn't necessarily indicate that no decisions have been made.