Countryfox Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 1 hour ago, ozleicester said: nope, cant stay up for the inevitable loss on penalties Wise move Oz ....
Great Boos Up Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 We practiced penos and the Germans said they didn't need to. FFS what are we doing wrong.
AjcW Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 3 minutes ago, Great Boos Up said: We practiced penos and the Germans said they didn't need to. FFS what are we doing wrong. Was a pretty poor shootout from both, I think that about any that don't make it past 5 each. We just happened to miss our last. Tammys was terrible though. to be honest the negativity at 2-1 is why we lost, absolutely shocking, DG and Chilly must have thought it was early last season again!
Jon the Hat Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 FFS. Irritated well beyond logic for a U21 tourney.
StanSP Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Saul Niguez that was fvcking beautiful. Superb goal to get Spain back in to the lead.
shen Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 4 hours ago, TheUltimateWinner said: Must say chilwells energy levels are fantastic, he's made multiple runs forward from left back in extra time And yet, this game has not given me a shred of proof that Chilwell is actually a competent defender at PL level. I like him going forward, even though his effect is still not that great most of the time. But Toljan was toying with him all game. Germany should've put that game to be much, much earlier and the chance they fashioned at the end of ET left Chilwell with egg on his face. Granted, he must've been absolutely shattered by then, but Toljan looked sharp despite having two days less rest and playing the same amount of time as Chilwell did. He doesn't look assertive in the tackle, he doesn't read his opponents well and he looks weak in the air. Weaknesses I consider to be serious in a full back position. I do think he's had a decent tournament going forward and maybe he'll develop more into a wide midfielder Albrighton-type than an actual fullback or wingback.
Stadt Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 Asensio and Saul would be our best players for the senior side and here they are playing for Spain's U21s
Guest Col city fan Posted 27 June 2017 Posted 27 June 2017 1 hour ago, shen said: And yet, this game has not given me a shred of proof that Chilwell is actually a competent defender at PL level. I like him going forward, even though his effect is still not that great most of the time. But Toljan was toying with him all game. Germany should've put that game to be much, much earlier and the chance they fashioned at the end of ET left Chilwell with egg on his face. Granted, he must've been absolutely shattered by then, but Toljan looked sharp despite having two days less rest and playing the same amount of time as Chilwell did. He doesn't look assertive in the tackle, he doesn't read his opponents well and he looks weak in the air. Weaknesses I consider to be serious in a full back position. I do think he's had a decent tournament going forward and maybe he'll develop more into a wide midfielder Albrighton-type than an actual fullback or wingback. And pretty much why I suggested getting in a player like George Friend to LCFC. Chilwell is going to feature more this season for us, but I'm not convinced about him at LB.
ozleicester Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 12am 0-0 1am 1-1 2am 2-2 and you wake up to a penalty loss
Dan Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 From what I saw (extra time) that was garbage. We looked knackered after two days more break, very negative tactics (how is Boothroyd qualified for this job?) and this is against a Germany side who've sent the majority of their U21's to the Confederations. Practicing penalties is a waste of time. It's largely about mentality. We are so far behind the top sides it's astounding. We're nearer to Norway or Sweden than Germany or Spain.
FrankieADZ Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 6 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: From what I saw (extra time) that was garbage. We looked knackered after two days more break, very negative tactics (how is Boothroyd qualified for this job?) and this is against a Germany side who've sent the majority of their U21's to the Confederations. Practicing penalties is a waste of time. It's largely about mentality. We are so far behind the top sides it's astounding. We're nearer to Norway or Sweden than Germany or Spain. tbf we were pretty decent during the first half, we could have been out of sight within the first 30mins,but headers from Chalobah and Abraham went over or straight at the keeper and DG had a good chance too, but it was same old same old, when we got the 2nd we kinda sat back and from then you could see Germany would get a goal and probably win it as we didnt look to have a plan B and no out ball since TA kept losing the ball whenever it was kicked up to him, tbh though we never stood a chance this tournament; if we'd have got through Spain would have had a field day
lgfualol Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 How did Redmond or anyone not notice their keeper was diving to his bottom right every time.
Thracian Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 There's no excuse for poor penalties. Or poor/negative tactics. As for Chilwell and Gray would they have rated more than 6.5 each for the tournament overall, and that's at under21 level? Both have much to improve on and the sooner they make those improvements the better. .
Darkon84 Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 At least it's given them a good learning experience so they can get used to the inevitable failure when they lose on penalties for the senior side. It's all part of their professional development. Well done to the coaching team for giving them this opportunity to progress with their footballing education.
foxy boxing Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 Ahhhhh! losing on penalties to the Germans again! why do we always do this!
Guest MattP Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 9 hours ago, Dan LCFC said: From what I saw (extra time) that was garbage. We looked knackered after two days more break, very negative tactics (how is Boothroyd qualified for this job?) and this is against a Germany side who've sent the majority of their U21's to the Confederations. Practicing penalties is a waste of time. It's largely about mentality. We are so far behind the top sides it's astounding. We're nearer to Norway or Sweden than Germany or Spain. It's not, but we just do it the wrong way, instead of practising for the event we practice the art of taking it. What do need to do is practice the same penalty a hundred times, pick where you are hitting it and do it 100 times, then you know exactly what you are going to do. Instead our players sit there taking penalties for an hour and hit about 25 different ones , if anything it probably leaves them more confused about what to do than when they started. I bet we had players last night walking to the spot still making their mind up as to where they were going to put it, they have should have known before the tournament started. Although even the most basic football person should know you need to take a run up probably, wtf that Tammy Abraham was doing I have no idea, he was never going to generate any poer off three paces, if he's not lifting it if the keeper goes the right way he'll get it.
Countryfox Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: What do need to do is practice the same penalty a hundred times, pick where you are hitting it and do it 100 times, then you know exactly what you are going to do ... Lets hope the opposition didn't see it or they would know too ! ...
purpleronnie Posted 28 June 2017 Posted 28 June 2017 1 hour ago, MattP said: Although even the most basic football person should know you need to take a run up probably, wtf that Tammy Abraham was doing I have no idea, he was never going to generate any poer off three paces, if he's not lifting it if the keeper goes the right way he'll get it. Absolutely. Plus I'm not a fan of players who approach pen's at an angle, I was always told to run straight, plus if you're approaching at an angle and then try for the opposite corner like he did it's difficult to twist your body to generate power and accuracy, awful awful penalty.
foxy boxing Posted 30 June 2017 Posted 30 June 2017 Germany go 1 - 0 up in the u21 final, a great header and Spain are non the Weiser
Jattdogg Posted 15 July 2017 Posted 15 July 2017 1 hour ago, spacemunky said: Congrats to the u19s! Brilliant for england. Lets hope this can start to have an effect on our senior squad. Will take years but its a good thing for england!
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