DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Our squad lacked depth in the midfield department last year... this guys good enough to challenge for a starting spot or use off the bench - it'll provide competition for places, which wasn't there last season.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, st albans fox said: Unless we are going three in the middle of the park ........ no mahrez makes that more likely When we have so many strikers on the books I can't see that. Especially when we're after more. As an option, yeah he'll fit well. Can't see that as being regular though. Anyway, all guess work really can't say I've ever really noticed him when watching them to know if he's any good.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, DJ Barry Hammond said: Our squad lacked depth in the midfield department last year... this guys good enough to challenge for a starting spot or use off the bench - it'll provide competition for places, which wasn't there last season. We've already added James, Mendy and Barnes to that competition don't forget.
st albans fox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, Babylon said: When we have so many strikers on the books I can't see that. Especially when we're after more. As an option, yeah he'll fit well. Can't see that as being regular though. Anyway, all guess work really can't say I've ever really noticed him when watching them to know if he's any good. Three in the middle allows two proper strikers to play rather than the withdrawn Okazaki role. I'd say it backs up the strikers aplenty argument
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, st albans fox said: Three in the middle allows two proper strikers to play rather than the withdrawn Okazaki role. I'd say it backs up the strikers aplenty argument What formations that?
JayT - Always A Fox! Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 14 minutes ago, Clever Fox said: Maybe he's our new enforcer to replace WAS. Spot on mate for me.
jonthefox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Who remembers getting excited about signing Matt Oakley and now we're questioning if this guys good enough . Gotta love being a Leicester fan.
FoxinNotts Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: What formations that? 352 433
Max Power Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 minutes ago, Babylon said: What formations that? 3-5-2?
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: We've already added James, Mendy and Barnes to that competition don't forget. But that won't cut it. James and Mendy's injury issues have to be a concern still and the others a teenager without a premier league start. Plus consider a new face in pre-season adds an unknown factor to the players that are there. The managers brought this guy in, who's going to lose out - prompting the upping of people's games.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, FoxinNotts said: 352 433 Can't see 3-5-2 shakey is a 442 man. How does 433 give you two main strikers? It's one striker two wide men.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 minutes ago, jonthefox said: Who remembers getting excited about signing Matt Oakley and now we're questioning if this guys good enough . Gotta love being a Leicester fan. Why can't you question whether someone who is nearly 30 years old, who has never played in our league and isn't a regular starter for his club is good enough to improve our team. Especially when there are questions about how they fit our system. He might be amazing, but I think there are enough question marks there to legitimately raise them on here.
AjcW Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Curious. Are all those who moaned about Clucas okay with this guy as back up because he “could challenge the existing midfielders” as that was the main requirement if I remember rightly.... As much as his stats seem okay he strikes me as the midfielder no one noticed at Sevilla because he had two top quality ones next to him. Im sensing a little “got a foreign name must be great” bias...
Ashley Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 6 minutes ago, Babylon said: Can't see 3-5-2 shakey is a 442 man. How does 433 give you two main strikers? It's one striker two wide men. He is? I can see us playing 3-5-2, we seem to be buying players who have good ball retention too. We went 3-5-2 v Sevilla and we've used it to close out games before. I think we will switch between 442 and 352 depending on games
st albans fox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 7 minutes ago, Babylon said: Can't see 3-5-2 shakey is a 442 man. How does 433 give you two main strikers? It's one striker two wide men. He is? when the chips have been down ( Madrid and Spurs ) he has resorted to 3-5-2 and whilst in that formation we looked capable of steam rollering some of the best opposition out there. In the escape season, he saw at close quarters what the 3-5-2 was capable of doing. It was Claudio that stuck us back to four. If we are chasing Gibson then unless we lose one of Huth or wes then I'm sure of it. Also look out for us chasing a right footed replacement if we sell riyad. Would mean we are looking for RWB cover for albrighton.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 3 minutes ago, AjcW said: Curious. Are all those who moaned about Clucas okay with this guy as back up because he “could challenge the existing midfielders” as that was the main requirement if I remember rightly.... As much as his stats seem okay he strikes me as the midfielder no one noticed at Sevilla because he had two top quality ones next to him. Im sensing a little “got a foreign name must be great” bias... I want someone better than what we have, I don't want backup. Clucas isn't better than what we have, I've seen him play, I've seen his stats in our leagues... he's not. This bloke I can't say confidently, but there are a few red flags that make me think he might just end up being bench fodder.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, st albans fox said: He is? when the chips have been down ( Madrid and Spurs ) he has resorted to 3-5-2 and whilst in that formation we looked capable of steam rollering some of the best opposition out there. In the escape season, he saw at close quarters what the 3-5-2 was capable of doing. It was Claudio that stuck us back to four. If we are chasing Gibson then unless we lose one of Huth or wes then I'm sure of it. Also look out for us chasing a right footed replacement if we sell riyad. Would mean we are looking for RWB cover for albrighton. But he started those games 442, rolling the dice when you have little choice as plan A isn't working doesn't strike me as him being a 352 man.
st albans fox Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, Babylon said: But he started those games 442, rolling the dice when you have little choice as plan A isn't working doesn't strike me as him being a 352 man. He didn't have three quality centre backs or three decent central midfielders
DJ Barry Hammond Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 1 minute ago, Babylon said: I want someone better than what we have, I don't want backup. Clucas isn't better than what we have, I've seen him play, I've seen his stats in our leagues... he's not. This bloke I can't say confidently, but there are a few red flags that make me think he might just end up being bench fodder. He may well do... but if that's also because Drinkwater / Ndidi are performing out of their skin, that's a positive. And maybe, just maybe, this guy is one of the better options we're confident of getting to reinforce the midfield - which was clearly short last season to extent we suffered badly from it.
Babylon Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 8 minutes ago, Ashley said: He is? I can see us playing 3-5-2, we seem to be buying players who have good ball retention too. We went 3-5-2 v Sevilla and we've used it to close out games before. I think we will switch between 442 and 352 depending on games We'll see, strikes me as just about the only way of getting the best out of slim and Vardy. But we're going to need way more signings at wing back if that's the case as what we've got is far too defensive for my liking. Not liking the thought of three slow centre backs either without fullback cover.
Ashley Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Just now, Babylon said: We'll see, strikes me as just about the only way of getting the best out of slim and Vardy. But we're going to need way more signings at wing back if that's the case as what we've got is far too defensive for my liking. Not liking the thought of three slow centre backs either without fullback cover. Gibson, Maguire and Morgan or Huth would be a good combination. Gibson and maguire aren't exactly slow neither is Morgan to be fair to him. We could be very defensive but could possibly be the way were going.. hard to beat and have the potential to Nick a goal or two.. it could work very well.
Bossman Blessed It Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Anyone moaning about the cost of these players needs to get a grip. Not only are we living in an age where clubs are happy to throw a tenth of a billion pounds on players they didn't have the patience to keep for a few extra years. But we're also having to cough up the most as fans. Our owners are rich and happy to spend on us; something you can almost guarantee your left bollock on not happening could they not afford to do so. As for Iborra, he's won 3 Europa Leagues and been part of an incredibly successful Sevilla side - captaining the club, meaning that he must have considerable leadership qualities. At 29 he's still got a few years in him and looks reasonably versatile too as he's clearly capable of chipping in with a few goals. For £12 million, we could do a lot, lot worse.
Steve Earle Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 23 minutes ago, st albans fox said: He is? when the chips have been down ( Madrid and Spurs ) he has resorted to 3-5-2 and whilst in that formation we looked capable of steam rollering some of the best opposition out there. In the escape season, he saw at close quarters what the 3-5-2 was capable of doing. It was Claudio that stuck us back to four. If we are chasing Gibson then unless we lose one of Huth or wes then I'm sure of it. Also look out for us chasing a right footed replacement if we sell riyad. Would mean we are looking for RWB cover for albrighton. Just IMO they were 343 line ups, not 352. Not a huge difference I know, just saying. That was also the Great Escape formation, BTW...
Vardinio'sCat Posted 3 July 2017 Posted 3 July 2017 Looks like he might suit the PL, but he isn't going to be box to box at 6'3".
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