Sly Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Mark Vivian-Foe Finidi George Nwanko Kanu George Weah Michael Essien Didier Drogba Samuel Eto Mahamodo Diarra Lucas Radebe Benni McCarhty Seydou Keita YaYa Toure Kolo Toure Lauren Bruce Grobbelar Geremi Jay-Jay Okocha Samuel Kuffour Roger Milla Riyad Mahrez Sado Mane Mohammed Salah Yacice Bahrami Serge Aurier Pierra Aubameyang ..... some of those would get in the Leicester team now, never mind in their prime!!
Jobyfox Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Oh come on. Why????? In a list of great African footballers why has nobody mentioned the name Sol Bamba??!!
Rossiman Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 9 minutes ago, Sly said: Mark Vivian-Foe Finidi George Nwanko Kanu George Weah Michael Essien Didier Drogba Samuel Eto Mahamodo Diarra Lucas Radebe Benni McCarhty Seydou Keita YaYa Toure Kolo Toure Lauren Bruce Grobbelar Geremi Jay-Jay Okocha Samuel Kuffour Roger Milla Riyad Mahrez Sado Mane Mohammed Salah Yacice Bahrami Serge Aurier Pierra Aubameyang ..... some of those would get in the Leicester team now, never mind in their prime!! True...these belong to the upper echelon of African football. Some of the guys I named were on a scale lower, just to show there was more talent beyond the well known guys. Good to see Sammy Kuffour up there. Bayern legend.
Sly Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Just now, Jobyfox said: Oh come on. Why????? Why has nobody mentioned the name Sol Bamba!!!!!!!!!! ..... because he was a bomb scare and uttter shite?!?
Jimbo Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 45 minutes ago, Rossiman said: Hell yeah! If you're gonna call Scholes and Ashley Cole world class, then you're damned right the Africans I just named are world class. This is a wind up right??? I can't be ar*ed to actually read the whole "debate" but is this guy seriously suggesting that if someone classes Paul Scholes as world class, widely regarded as the best midfielder of his generation by so many including the likes of Zidane and Xavi, then Gervinho and Radebe, Lucas f**king Radebe, are easily classed as also being world class?? Might as well throw Quinton Fortune into the mix as well!!! Africa has produced some very good players, some world class players, Gervinho and Radebe can't really be classed as either
Jobyfox Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 1 minute ago, Sly said: ..... because he was a bomb scare and uttter shite?!? Irony?
Sly Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Jobyfox said: Irony? Well, he was a bomb scare. Maybe not utter shite.
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 6 minutes ago, Rossiman said: True...these belong to the upper echelon of African football. Some of the guys I named were on a scale lower, just to show there was more talent beyond the well known guys. shame the point was world class players
Rossiman Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Just now, HankMarvin said: shame the point was world class players I listed those guys in response to some guy calling Ashley Cole, Gerrard and Scholes world class. I stand by my position.
Jimbo Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 In all fairness on the mention of Marcel Desailly, he's not the only one who could have represented an African nation but didn't. Kante for one could have played for Mali as his parents were from there. Viera is another that springs to mind. All world class players
ronnup Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Just now, Rossiman said: I listed those guys in response to some guy calling Ashley Cole, Gerrard and Scholes world class. I stand by my position. Two of those are without a doubt world class.
Merging Cultures Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 Rossiman knows his apples. He's huge in Africa too. All my colleagues know him.
Rossiman Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 12 minutes ago, ronnup said: Two of those are without a doubt world class. In truth? Debatable. Scholes had some great scoring instincts, but he wasn't exactly a creative midfielder. Gerrard was good and could score spectacular goals from long range, but I'm not too sure what else he brought to the table. Look, in my view, England has produced few if any genuine world class players since Bobby Charlton, Lineker, John Barnes, Shearer, Sheringham, McManaman etc. I don't do media hype.
JamesfromlondonLCFC Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 19 minutes ago, Sly said: ..... because he was a bomb scare and uttter shite?!? man i hate when someone gives a serious answer to a joke question
ajthefox Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 19 minutes ago, Rossiman said: True...these belong to the upper echelon of African football. Some of the guys I named were on a scale lower, just to show there was more talent beyond the well known guys. Good to see Sammy Kuffour up there. Bayern legend. Fantastic excuse for calling a list of average top division players world class
Strokes Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 9 minutes ago, Jimbo said: In all fairness on the mention of Marcel Desailly, he's not the only one who could have represented an African nation but didn't. Kante for one could have played for Mali as his parents were from there. Viera is another that springs to mind. All world class players Yeah but England could have had Andy King, if it wasn't for damn Welsh grandma
Vlad the Fox Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 7 hours ago, jonthefox said: Jesus is shit at crosses though. He'd come in handy the next time the owners wanted to feed us all with beer and doughnuts mind.
Jimbo Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 6 minutes ago, Rossiman said: In truth? Debatable. Scholes had some great scoring instincts, but he wasn't exactly a creative midfielder. Gerrard was good and could score spectacular goals from long range, but I'm not too sure what else he brought to the table. Look, in my view, England has produced few if any genuine world class players since Bobby Charlton, Lineker, John Barnes, Shearer, Sheringham etc. I don't do media hype. If you don't think Scholes was world class then every point you make is invalid. Nothing to do with media hype. The guy controlled games, the tempo of a game was dictated by how scholes wanted to play. He offered so so much more than just a goal scoring instinct. The only thing he couldn't do was tackle. If Xavi comes out and says Scholes is world class, then I'm going to side with. You cannot put him in the same bracket as Kanoute!
HankMarvin Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 11 minutes ago, Rossiman said: In truth? Debatable. Scholes had some great scoring instincts, but he wasn't exactly a creative midfielder. Gerrard was good and could score spectacular goals from long range, but I'm not too sure what else he brought to the table. Look, in my view, England has produced few if any genuine world class players since Bobby Charlton, Lineker, John Barnes, Shearer, Sheringham, McManaman etc. I don't do media hype. Scholes gerrad and cole are not, then you put Sheringham and McManaman that are
Rossiman Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 1 minute ago, Jimbo said: If you don't think Scholes was world class then every point you make is invalid. Nothing to do with media hype. The guy controlled games, the tempo of a game was dictated by how scholes wanted to play. He offered so so much more than just a goal scoring instinct. The only thing he couldn't do was tackle. If Xavi comes out and says Scholes is world class, then I'm going to side with. You cannot put him in the same bracket as Kanoute! Why do you need Xavi to say it? No one needs anyone to tell us Messi or Neymar are world class. It's self-evident. I think Scholes was a great fit for the style of football Ferguson played. Not sure he would have adapted to the style of say, Barcelona or AC Milan. For me that is what makes a truly great player - the ability to lock down your position in any team on earth.
frany104 Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 2 minutes ago, Rossiman said: Why do you need Xavi to say it? No one needs anyone to tell us Messi or Neymar are world class. It's self-evident. I think Scholes was a great fit for the style of football Ferguson played. Not sure he would have adapted to the style of say, Barcelona or AC Milan. For me that is what makes a truly great player - the ability to lock down your position in any team on earth. Yes and Gervinho did that! ???? go to bed!
Rossiman Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 8 minutes ago, HankMarvin said: Scholes gerrad and cole are not, then you put Sheringham and McManaman that are I've been arguing with friends for over 20 years, to the effect that Steve McManaman was the most brilliant and skilful player ever produced by England. He simply wasn't utilised properly by managers. At Madrid he showed his genius, and remains a legend there till date.
GaelicFox Posted 2 August 2017 Posted 2 August 2017 1 minute ago, Rossiman said: I've been arguing with friends for over 20 years, to the effect that Steve McManaman was the most brilliant and skilful player ever produced by England. He simply wasn't utilised properly by managers. At Madrid he showed his genius, and remains a legend there till date. Step away from the forum lad ...that son is pure crazy talk !
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